December 2011 - Pharo-users

Re: [Pharo-users] Network save and load

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Dec 4, 2011, at 8:49 AM, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: > Le 03/12/2011 17:46, Janko MivÅ¡ek a Ã©crit : >> WebDAV has additional advantage that is supported in many desktop apps >> like MS Office and LibreOffice. It essentially enables you to "save to >> the web" directly. >> >> For instance you can open an attachment in Aida/Scribo, edit it and save >> directly back to that attachment. No need to save localy, delete old >> attachment and attach back new one. > > > Are you relying on the Zinc class library to access WebDav resources. > > One day it will be nice to have a dedicated Smalltalk web server, so > DrGeo sketches could be rendered, updated, managed Ã la Smalltalk. I do not get your question. Zinc, Swazoo, seaside are web servers. > > Hilaire > > > > -- > Dr. Geo -- http://www.drgeo.eu > >

Dec. 4, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Network save and load

by Janko MivÅ¡ek

S, Hilaire Fernandes piÅ¡e: > Janko MivÅ¡ek a Ã©crit : >> WebDAV has additional advantage that is supported in many desktop apps >> like MS Office and LibreOffice. It essentially enables you to "save to >> the web" directly. >> >> For instance you can open an attachment in Aida/Scribo, edit it and save >> directly back to that attachment. No need to save localy, delete old >> attachment and attach back new one. > Are you relying on the Zinc class library to access WebDav resources. No, Swazoo and Aida/Web, to serve WebDAV resources. > One day it will be nice to have a dedicated Smalltalk web server, so > DrGeo sketches could be rendered, updated, managed Ã la Smalltalk. -- Janko MivÅ¡ek Aida/Web Smalltalk Web Application Server http://www.aidaweb.si

Dec. 4, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Network save and load

by Hilaire Fernandes

Le 03/12/2011 17:46, Janko MivÅ¡ek a Ã©crit : > WebDAV has additional advantage that is supported in many desktop apps > like MS Office and LibreOffice. It essentially enables you to "save to > the web" directly. > > For instance you can open an attachment in Aida/Scribo, edit it and save > directly back to that attachment. No need to save localy, delete old > attachment and attach back new one. Are you relying on the Zinc class library to access WebDav resources. One day it will be nice to have a dedicated Smalltalk web server, so DrGeo sketches could be rendered, updated, managed Ã la Smalltalk. Hilaire -- Dr. Geo -- http://www.drgeo.eu

Dec. 4, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Network save and load

by Hilaire Fernandes

Le 03/12/2011 17:21, Sven Van Caekenberghe a Ã©crit : > > On 03 Dec 2011, at 16:52, Davorin Rusevljan wrote: > >> Well, aside from being a bit complex, ftp is also quite dated, and question is how many users would like to save to ftp or have ftp accounts. Maybe then WebDAV, it can be served by most web servers? > > What I described should be WebDAV compatible (more or less, I haven't tried). It will be great. Hilaire -- Dr. Geo -- http://www.drgeo.eu

Dec. 4, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Network save and load

by Hilaire Fernandes

For the server side I should not do anything. It should rely on existing server in school or whatever: FTP or even WebDav service as it exists in Apache or even CMS applicaton like Zope, may be Moodle ? Hilaire Le 03/12/2011 22:30, StÃ©phane Ducasse a Ã©crit : > Hilaire > > if you have a simple solution for the server side I would be interested because it would be a cool example for the chapter on Zinc. > > Stef > On Dec 3, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > >> >> "List my drawings" >> >> ZnClient new >> username: 'john' password: 'secret'; >> get: 'http://www.drgeo.eu/drawings/johnsbook/'. >> >> >> The server side would not be that much work either: have a look at how the ZnMonticelloServerDelegate class (to be combined with a ZnServer). This implements a comparable protocol. > > > -- Dr. Geo -- http://www.drgeo.eu

Dec. 4, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] [COTDC] 89 - NullStream

by Igor Stasenko

On 3 December 2011 23:27, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > I'm a stream doing nothing (NullObject pattern). I can be handy when a stream is needed and that we need to do nothing (for example > a logging in off mode). > is it for write only or for read as well (always answering nil and always 'at end')? > Stef > On Dec 3, 2011, at 11:29 AM, sean(a)clipperadams.com wrote: > >> Continuing in Collections... >> >> Today: Â NullStream >> >> >> Comment Of The Day Contest - One Day One Comment >> Rules: >> #1: Each day a not commented class is elected. Each day the best comment will be integrated with name of the author(s). >> #2: If you cannot comment it, deprecate it. >> Results: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/CommentOfTheDayContest >> >> p.s. this message was sent from a pharo image. Did you know you could easily do that?! >> > > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Dec. 3, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Consortium memberships brainstorming and ideas

by Sean P. DeNigris

Tudor Girba-2 wrote > > Of course, most people will fall under the second category anyway. But, > like this, when one adds the badge of "Proud Pharo supporter" to his > webpage it has a factual meaning. > +1 -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Consortium-memberships-brainstorming-and-ideas-tp4152… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Dec. 3, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Consortium memberships brainstorming and ideas

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Dec 3, 2011, at 10:25 PM, Francois Stephany wrote: > Hi Steph, > > It could be nice to have something between the Individual Member and the company first level support. Something like 'Freelance' for 1000â¬ maybe ? Would it not be covered by a donation? I ask because we try also to make it simple. But we are listening to you :) Stef > > On 03/12/11 01:00, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> HI >> >> We would like to get your point of view about the following (we discussed with INRIA lawyer and others. >> >> >> Goal: Remember we want to be able to pay an engineer (cost 55K). >> >> Constraints: We do not want a special license for people participating to the consortium and the others. >> It means that members may not have immediate advantages like 10% reduction :). >> But it also means that the system is clean, simple, â¦. >> >> >> Proposals: >> >> Individual Member: >> - Free membership >> >> Institutional Member: (like Lab, Universityâ¦.) >> - 1000 Euros >> >> Company >> - First level support: 2000-3000 Euros >> >> - Extended Support: 5000-6000 Euros >> >> Then finally we want to have a donation for>500 Euros >> >> >> Now with these numbers: we can do it. It may be tight but this would be a huge success! >> >> >> we need >> 20 first level support >> 2000 Euros * 20 = 40000 >> two extended >> 5000 Euros * 2 = 12000 >> >> 5 institutionals >> 5* 1000 = 5000 >> >> Gift: >> 500 * 10 = 5000 >> >> >> So let us know what do you think? >> >> Stef > > -- > http://tulipemoutarde.be > BE: +32 (0)65 709 131 > CA: +1 778 558 3225 >

Dec. 3, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Videos Pharo talks ESUG 2010/2011

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

> > > Report precsise bugs, > Send emails like that one, > sign the license agreement > are some ways to contribute :) > > Great. Yes, I should sign that license! http://pharo.gforge.inria.fr/licenseDocuments/PharoSoftwareDistributionAgre… > > > Question: is this private-public partnership funding situation operational now, or are you still working out the details? > > We are working with laywers :) > > Great! > > Send a separate email :) > We love love to create such a kind of relationship and ecobusiness :) > > I will send out an email when we are closer to hiring. > > Priorities for me: easy GUI building, simple PDF generation, simple DB connectivity, and continued cross-platform portability... including mobile one day! for pdf generation did you see the framework christian haidler open-source it in VW? > > Cheers, > Cam >

Dec. 3, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Network save and load

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hilaire if you have a simple solution for the server side I would be interested because it would be a cool example for the chapter on Zinc. Stef On Dec 3, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > > "List my drawings" > > ZnClient new > username: 'john' password: 'secret'; > get: 'http://www.drgeo.eu/drawings/johnsbook/'. > > > The server side would not be that much work either: have a look at how the ZnMonticelloServerDelegate class (to be combined with a ZnServer). This implements a comparable protocol.

Dec. 3, 2011