December 2011 - Pharo-users

Re: [Pharo-users] Company/freelance working with Pharo/Seaside

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Dec 13, 2011, at 11:10 AM, Janko MivÅ¡ek wrote: > Hi Stef and others, > > Consortium will certainly give customers some confidence. But only if > information given by consortium will be trustful. This can be achieved > by payments of members to have some status, well, giving some money > always signals some seriousness :) Such company's and freelancer's > status will then be a signal of confidence for customers. > > Of course there is a problem of newcomers wanting to work as freelancers > but at the start cannot afford paying to the consortium. At the other > side we cannot just blindly trust everyone. One solution for that can be > a kind of "network of trust" and in Aida community we actually have a > such one, called Network of Aida professionals. You became a member of > our network if you prove through the work in a community that you are > capable and trustful of serious work on some paid project. sounds really interesting. We should get the same. > Another idea can be to start with a "marketplace" (simply a new mailing > list or existing LinkedIn infrastructure?) for matching supply and > demand of Smalltalk talent. Not just Pharo, let it be broader, we are > too few! There one can announce his ability for some work, on the other > side one can search for people willing to work on some project. we will see. > > Best regards > Janko > > > S, StÃ©phane Ducasse piÅ¡e: >> Janko, stephane and others >> >> We need your inputs to build a structure to answer these questions. >> So what would help you to make your clients feel more confident? >> Again I repeat it (and I know that you know): we are really interested in making business grows around pharo. >> >> so do you think that the consortium could have a list of >> companies offering services? >> freelancers? >> â¦ >> The consortium should help you. >> >> Stef >> >> >> >> >> > > -- > Janko MivÅ¡ek > Svetovalec za informatiko > Eranova d.o.o. > Ljubljana, Slovenija > www.eranova.si > tel: 01 514 22 55 > faks: 01 514 22 56 > gsm: 031 674 565 >

Dec. 13, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Company/freelance working with Pharo/Seaside

by Janko MivÅ¡ek

Hi Stef and others, Consortium will certainly give customers some confidence. But only if information given by consortium will be trustful. This can be achieved by payments of members to have some status, well, giving some money always signals some seriousness :) Such company's and freelancer's status will then be a signal of confidence for customers. Of course there is a problem of newcomers wanting to work as freelancers but at the start cannot afford paying to the consortium. At the other side we cannot just blindly trust everyone. One solution for that can be a kind of "network of trust" and in Aida community we actually have a such one, called Network of Aida professionals. You became a member of our network if you prove through the work in a community that you are capable and trustful of serious work on some paid project. Another idea can be to start with a "marketplace" (simply a new mailing list or existing LinkedIn infrastructure?) for matching supply and demand of Smalltalk talent. Not just Pharo, let it be broader, we are too few! There one can announce his ability for some work, on the other side one can search for people willing to work on some project. Best regards Janko S, StÃ©phane Ducasse piÅ¡e: > Janko, stephane and others > > We need your inputs to build a structure to answer these questions. > So what would help you to make your clients feel more confident? > Again I repeat it (and I know that you know): we are really interested in making business grows around pharo. > > so do you think that the consortium could have a list of > companies offering services? > freelancers? > â¦ > The consortium should help you. > > Stef > > > > > -- Janko MivÅ¡ek Svetovalec za informatiko Eranova d.o.o. Ljubljana, Slovenija www.eranova.si tel: 01 514 22 55 faks: 01 514 22 56 gsm: 031 674 565

Dec. 13, 2011

[COTDC] 96 - GZipWriteStream

by DeNigris Sean

94 classes done 16 Packages done 800 classes remaining Continuing in Compression... Today: GZipWriteStream Comment Of The Day Contest - One Day One Comment Rules: #1: Each day a not commented class is elected. Each day the best comment will be integrated with name of the author(s). #2: If you cannot comment it, deprecate it. Results: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/CommentOfTheDayContest p.s. this message was sent from a pharo image. Did you know you could easily do that?!

Dec. 13, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-project] Sprint friday 16 @ lille

by Mariano Martinez Peck

ups...sorry, it iwas not intended for the mailing list. Sorry. On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 11:00 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck < marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > so you changed you mind ;) > we go by car or by train? Luc is finally coming also? > > cheers > > > On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 10:51 PM, Noury Bouraqadi <bouraqadi(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> On 9 dÃ©c. 2011, at 09:06, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> >> > Hi guys >> > >> > I'm not sure that my message passed in the mailing-list. >> > We will organize a sprint new friday and everybody is welcome. >> >> Cool. I'll be there! >> >> > Just let us know so that we prepare the rooms. >> > >> >> It would be nice if we have a few items we collaborate to addess. >> One possible item I'm planning to contribute to is to help Marcus/help >> our selves by reviewing some pending fixes in the bug tracker. >> >> Noury >> -- >> http://twitter.com/#!/NouryBouraqadi >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Mariano > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com > > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

Dec. 12, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-project] Sprint friday 16 @ lille

by Mariano Martinez Peck

so you changed you mind ;) we go by car or by train? Luc is finally coming also? cheers On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 10:51 PM, Noury Bouraqadi <bouraqadi(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Hi, > > On 9 dÃ©c. 2011, at 09:06, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > > > Hi guys > > > > I'm not sure that my message passed in the mailing-list. > > We will organize a sprint new friday and everybody is welcome. > > Cool. I'll be there! > > > Just let us know so that we prepare the rooms. > > > > It would be nice if we have a few items we collaborate to addess. > One possible item I'm planning to contribute to is to help Marcus/help our > selves by reviewing some pending fixes in the bug tracker. > > Noury > -- > http://twitter.com/#!/NouryBouraqadi > > > > > > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

Dec. 12, 2011

Fwd: [Pharo-project] Videos ESUG 2010 on Youtube

by Marcus Denker

Begin forwarded message: > From: Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> > Subject: [Pharo-project] Videos ESUG 2010 on Youtube > > > Now *complete* 54 videos, 35 hours play time. > > http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL431285A978F581BB > -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

Dec. 12, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Company/freelance working with Pharo/Seaside

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Janko, stephane and others We need your inputs to build a structure to answer these questions. So what would help you to make your clients feel more confident? Again I repeat it (and I know that you know): we are really interested in making business grows around pharo. so do you think that the consortium could have a list of companies offering services? freelancers? â¦ The consortium should help you. Stef

Dec. 12, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Company/freelance working with Pharo/Seaside

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Yes. I would really like to have a pool of freelancers around Pharo. We really would love people to make money around Pharo. Stef > Hi there, > > For some freelance work, my clients sometimes ask if there are a lot of people that can continue/maintain their project if I die/quit/start a bakery business. > > Who could continue Pharo/Seaside project? Especially in the French/Dutch speaking world. > > I guess the Pharo Consortium will help to get some credibility when proposing Pharo to a client. > > Cheers, > Francois > > > -- > http://tulipemoutarde.be > BE: +32 (0)65 709 131 > CA: +1 778 558 3225 >

Dec. 12, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Company/freelance working with Pharo/Seaside

by Janko MivÅ¡ek

Hi Francois, S, Francois Stephany piÅ¡e: > For some freelance work, my clients sometimes ask if there are a lot of > people that can continue/maintain their project if I die/quit/start a > bakery business. I have the same question often. And helps when I say my customers: 1. That there is a company (not just a person) nearby (same town or say 100 km around), which works on similar projects (Smalltalk and Aida/Web in my case) 2. That people from international community can be asked for help, because my projects are coded (including comments) in English, even that projects are for domestic customers. So far my customers didn't come to question yet if tools used are open source or not and how is about their long-term availability including vendor stability. They know that partly are open source partly commercial but this is too far from their interest. Best regards Janko > > Who could continue Pharo/Seaside project? Especially in the French/Dutch > speaking world. > > I guess the Pharo Consortium will help to get some credibility when > proposing Pharo to a client. > > Cheers, > Francois > > -- Janko MivÅ¡ek Aida/Web Smalltalk Web Application Server http://www.aidaweb.si

Dec. 12, 2011

Company/freelance working with Pharo/Seaside

by Francois Stephany

Hi there, For some freelance work, my clients sometimes ask if there are a lot of people that can continue/maintain their project if I die/quit/start a bakery business. Who could continue Pharo/Seaside project? Especially in the French/Dutch speaking world. I guess the Pharo Consortium will help to get some credibility when proposing Pharo to a client. Cheers, Francois -- http://tulipemoutarde.be BE: +32 (0)65 709 131 CA: +1 778 558 3225

Dec. 12, 2011