November 2011 - Pharo-users

Re: [Pharo-users] VSE / VW migration to Pharo

by Chantal Thibodeau

Forget about me, I "exported" the VW parcels in .st files avec the fileIn seems available ----- Original Message ----- From: Chantal Thibodeau To: pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 3:56 PM Subject: [Pharo-users] VSE / VW migration to Pharo Hi We want to migrate code from VisualWorks 3.0 to something else. It is a batch search engine so the GUI is extremely simple and could be rewrite from scratch. I tried the VW 7.0 but it is too costly (but it works perfectly fine with small adjusments in less than one hour). I installed Pharo and I am unabled to even load some code. I read that everything should be in the repository. Fine for the new code but what do I do with the "old" one ? I don't see anywhere to load a source file or a parcel file. I need some help. I also download Squeak, that I will try in the next days. The speed of execution is the main issue. Thanks a lot

Nov. 17, 2011

VSE / VW migration to Pharo

by Chantal Thibodeau

Hi We want to migrate code from VisualWorks 3.0 to something else. It is a batch search engine so the GUI is extremely simple and could be rewrite from scratch. I tried the VW 7.0 but it is too costly (but it works perfectly fine with small adjusments in less than one hour). I installed Pharo and I am unabled to even load some code. I read that everything should be in the repository. Fine for the new code but what do I do with the "old" one ? I don't see anywhere to load a source file or a parcel file. I need some help. I also download Squeak, that I will try in the next days. The speed of execution is the main issue. Thanks a lot

Nov. 17, 2011

Fwd: Pharse Node

by Pablo Herrero

Che parece q es la otra jerarquia la que hay q usar, igualmente podemos mirar el framework, este que ya nos habia pasado antes (http://squeaksource.com/rb) como para tener una idea de como se usa, o aprovechar directamente este framework. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com> Date: 2011/11/17 Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Pharse Node To: A friendly place where any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> The parser node classes in the Compiler package are quirky, they are not conveniently usable for code generation and manipulation. Better use the AST from the refactoring engine (http://squeaksource.com/rb,html) You might also want to use the AST-Compiler (http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/helvetia.html) to be able to directly compile the AST from the refactoring engine without going through source code. Lukas On 17 November 2011 04:48, Pablo Herrero <pablodherrero(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hello everybody! > > I'm looking for documentation for the ParseNode class's hierarchy at > the 'Compiler-ParseNodes' category. > Does anyone know where I could find some? > > PS1: I'm working on a project where I need to do some runtime code > manipulation, like creating AST Nodes on the fly and things like that. > > PS2: Is this the correct list to post this questing or pharo-project > might be more apt? > > Cheers! > > Pablo > > -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

Nov. 17, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharse Node

by Lukas Renggli

The parser node classes in the Compiler package are quirky, they are not conveniently usable for code generation and manipulation. Better use the AST from the refactoring engine (http://squeaksource.com/rb,html) You might also want to use the AST-Compiler (http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/helvetia.html) to be able to directly compile the AST from the refactoring engine without going through source code. Lukas On 17 November 2011 04:48, Pablo Herrero <pablodherrero(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hello everybody! > > I'm looking for documentation for the ParseNode class's hierarchy at > the 'Compiler-ParseNodes' category. > Does anyone know where I could find some? > > PS1: I'm working on a project where I need to do some runtime code > manipulation, like creating AST Nodes on the fly and things like that. > > PS2: Is this the correct list to post this questing or pharo-project > might be more apt? > > Cheers! > > Pablo > > -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

Nov. 17, 2011

Pharse Node

by Pablo Herrero

Hello everybody! I'm looking for documentation for the ParseNode class's hierarchy at the 'Compiler-ParseNodes' category. Does anyone know where I could find some? PS1: I'm working on a project where I need to do some runtime code manipulation, like creating AST Nodes on the fly and things like that. PS2: Is this the correct list to post this questing or pharo-project might be more apt? Cheers! Pablo

Nov. 17, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] The Pharo curse

by Sean P. DeNigris

Jeff Gray wrote: > > I'm finding that the more I use Pharo, when typing in MS Word I select a > piece of text and press ( and then wonder where all the text has gone :-) > Good. I often double-click to the right of an opening " and wonder for a moment why the full string didn't select. I thought I might be the only one :) -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/The-Pharo-curse-tp4078843p4078853.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Nov. 17, 2011

The Pharo curse

by Jeff Gray

In my day job I write a lot of documents. I'm finding that the more I use Pharo, when typing in MS Word I select a piece of text and press ( and then wonder where all the text has gone :-) Maybe the answer is to use Pharo for word processing... -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/The-Pharo-curse-tp4078843p4078843.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Nov. 17, 2011

[ANN] SqueakSource 3 RC 1

by Tobias Pape

Dear All, I hereby release SqueakSource 3 RC 1 to the public. I wasn't able to come up with a nice name this time, so it is just 'the Release Candidate' :) Thanks to Dale, Norbert, and Philippe for their support, to many I met at ESUG'11 who gave good inspiration and anybody who listened and helped. == Improvements since the Beta: - Backgrounding does not fork but use a separate process on Squeak; Service VM on GS. - New feature: "well known name" for a Repo, like Squeaksource or gemsource... (So, that Gofer new gemsource: â¦ can be used in the Repo strings on the project sites) - Improvements in Sitemap building, XML-parser not required, plain Seaside - Pick up newer versions of several, esp. gemstone projects. Email support should be back now. - Fix display of "news" section - Fix for #9: Sorting of Projects can be confusing. - Fix: by default, non-world-read projects are not visible, now. - Fix for #7: "Tags" link responds with MessageNotUnderstood page - Fix for #22: SSProject>>versionAdded: forks a process - Fix for #23: Sitemap generation fails - Fix for #24: SSVersionAlreadyExists thrown by SSVersionView>>move:to: but not handled... - Fix for #27: MNU #ifNotEmpty: in SSEmailSubscription >> versionAdded:to: nukes gem - Fix for #29: add "breathing space" in tables'. - HTTP DELETE for versions (e.g., for future Monticello tool usage) - more tests. == The (up to now) sole instance is the HPIâs Software Architecture Groupâs Squeaksource, wich is not open to registration at the moment. However, I hope the GemStone ss3 instance will be migrated soon (http://ss3.gemstone.com) Install it yourself! Pharo: == Gofer new squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; package: 'ConfigurationOfSqueakSource'; load. ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfSqueakSource) project version: '3.0-rc.1') load: #('All') == Squeak: == Installer ss project: 'MetacelloRepository'; load: 'ConfigurationOfSqueakSource'. ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfSqueakSource) project version: '3.0-rc.1') load: #('All') == GemStone (with ProjectGofer, else like pharo): == Gofer project load: 'SqueakSource' version: '3.0-rc.1' group: #('All'). == To come: === â¢ more tests â¢ moving and copying via backend (i.e., HTTP request) â¢ inboxes â¢ branch projects â¢ (converting squeaksource.com to a SqueakSource3 ;) ) === I hope you like it. Best -Tobias PS: Did you know that â¢ you can get a personal rss stream of your âfavouriteâ projects? (like following on github) â¢ you can set up parent projects for your projects and automatically move all your packages there? â¢ you can extend SqueakSource quite easily? (Example: Issues) â¢ you can install a stripped down version on SqueakSource? (e.g., without Issue tracking, Statistics or filesystem support)

Nov. 16, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Seaside and Fuel

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 3:07 AM, Francois Stephany < tulipe.moutarde(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Jeff, > Or you can regularly serialize and save your data (every > hour/day/whatever). > Yes, this is something you can do for example with Pier. You can choose how much regulary to save the data. In addition, it lets you choose how many saves. Say you want max 3, then if there is a 4 save, it removes the oldest one. So you always have the last 3 saves. I'cced the seaside mailing list which may have better ideas. Cheers -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

Nov. 16, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Seaside and Fuel

by Francois Stephany

Hi Jeff, As usual it depends on what kind of data and the load of your application If you can afford to 'fuel' your data after each change, go for it. That won't scale if you have a big dataset or many concurrent users. Or you can regularly serialize and save your data (every hour/day/whatever). Francois

Nov. 16, 2011