November 2011 - Pharo-users

Re: [Pharo-users] installer on l*n*x ?

by Alan Rodas

I have some python scrtipts that I use to work with my smalltalk images. I will post them as soon as I get home (probably tomorrow) With this scripts you can do something like $ smalltalk open pharo 1.3 with cog which does what you expect although its quite hardcoded to my system and my needs so I will have to modify them a little bit before sharing to make them of any use for someone else. Cheers -- Alan Rodas Bonjour

Nov. 25, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] installer on l*n*x ?

by t olschewski

Igor Stasenko wrote > > i think you need a so-called one-click image. you can visit pharo site > for downloads. > yes, I am using OneClick 1.3. where's the install script ? I can see a wrapper pharo.sh that runs an image with fixed name pharo.image. Igor Stasenko wrote > > But in practice, when you start work on many different projects, very > soon you will end up with multiple images, > located at different places. > And even multiple different VMs :) > all wide-spread dynamic programming languages I've ever seen on linux have an installer so you can call them by command line without needing to care for paths or vm options. If I want to run a python program, I type "python myscript.py" in any terminal window. If I want to run a ruby program, I type "ruby myscript.rb". If I want to run a tcl program, I type "tclsh myscript.tcl" ... even gforth can be called this way. Actually I consider this an indispensable feature of a programming language running on a linux system. It's quasi-standard behavior. Earlier versions of squeak (eg. 3.9 and 3.10) had an installer. In case there is really no install script in OneClick and nobody else wants to do this, maybe I could write an install script that: * checks for some prerequisites * copies the (OneClick) Pharo-1.x-.....app tree to /usr/local/lib/ * puts a wrapper script into /usr/local/bin (which is in $PATH) * tells how to uninstall (remove) that later -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/installer-on-l-n-x-tp4104740p4107950.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Nov. 25, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] About scheduling

by Igor Stasenko

On 25 November 2011 16:25, Pablo Herrero <pablodherrero(a)gmail.com> wrote: > 2011/11/24 Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com>: >>> >> i would discourage using such things. >> >> can you tell , why you need it? > > We're developing a STM library, we need to make sure when a proccess > is commiting a transacction, nobody else is using the same objects > which are been updated. > Usually for this you just use critical sections. sema := Semaphore forMutualExclusion. process1: sema critical: [ here you modify your data ] process2: sema critical: [ here you commit your data ] so, why this is not appropriate for your model? -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Nov. 25, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] About scheduling

by Pablo Herrero

2011/11/24 Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com>: >> > i would discourage using such things. > > can you tell , why you need it? We're developing a STM library, we need to make sure when a proccess is commiting a transacction, nobody else is using the same objects which are been updated.

Nov. 25, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] installer on l*n*x ?

by Igor Stasenko

On 24 November 2011 19:38, t olschewski <t-o(a)gmx.org> wrote: > where are the installer scripts of pharo and squeak ? > > earlier squeak versions installed themselves quite comfortably with /bin/sh > INSTALL (squeak 3.9) oder make install (3.10) > > I need pharo system-wide with a default image residing in a default location > like /usr/local/lib/... and the executable in a default location > /usr/local/bin/, -plugin path, vm parameters etc. - am I expected to do all > this manually and to repeat this anytime I want to upgrade ? > i think you need a so-called one-click image. you can visit pharo site for downloads. But in practice, when you start work on many different projects, very soon you will end up with multiple images, located at different places. And even multiple different VMs :) -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Nov. 24, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] About scheduling

by Igor Stasenko

On 24 November 2011 20:07, Pablo Herrero <pablodherrero(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi! > > Is there any mean to tell the Pharo VM to not switch to any other > thread ultil you can tell is safe to do so? > > Thx in advance! > i would discourage using such things. can you tell , why you need it? -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Nov. 24, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] About scheduling

by Lukas Renggli

[ ... ] valueUnpreemptively but read the method comment. Lukas On 24 November 2011 19:07, Pablo Herrero <pablodherrero(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi! > > Is there any mean to tell the Pharo VM to not switch to any other > thread ultil you can tell is safe to do so? > > Thx in advance! > > -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

Nov. 24, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] About scheduling

by Stefan Marr

On 24 Nov 2011, at 19:07, Pablo Herrero wrote: > Hi! > > Is there any mean to tell the Pharo VM to not switch to any other > thread ultil you can tell is safe to do so? The VM does only preempt you when another higher prior process becomes runnable. There are a couple of things in the block class, like fork uninterruptible or so. You might want to use those. But you can also just raise your priority to the maximum manually. The relevant global for that is Processor. Best regards Stefan -- Stefan Marr Software Languages Lab Vrije Universiteit Brussel Pleinlaan 2 / B-1050 Brussels / Belgium http://soft.vub.ac.be/~smarr Phone: +32 2 629 2974 Fax: +32 2 629 3525

Nov. 24, 2011

About scheduling

by Pablo Herrero

Hi! Is there any mean to tell the Pharo VM to not switch to any other thread ultil you can tell is safe to do so? Thx in advance!

Nov. 24, 2011

installer on l*n*x ?

by t olschewski

where are the installer scripts of pharo and squeak ? earlier squeak versions installed themselves quite comfortably with /bin/sh INSTALL (squeak 3.9) oder make install (3.10) I need pharo system-wide with a default image residing in a default location like /usr/local/lib/... and the executable in a default location /usr/local/bin/, -plugin path, vm parameters etc. - am I expected to do all this manually and to repeat this anytime I want to upgrade ? -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/installer-on-l-n-x-tp4104740p4104740.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Nov. 24, 2011