January 2011 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

PharoConf Annecy 2011

by laurent laffont

Hi, PharoConf Annecy will took place at IMUS (UniversitÃ© of Savoie), 10th February. Website here: http://pharoconf-annecy.seasidehosting.st/ (in french, but google translate starts to be wonderful :) It's a local event focused on real code, coding-dojo, katas using Pharo. If you're not far from Annecy, welcome ! Laurent Laffont Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/ Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/

Jan. 13, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] squeak vm without MMU

by Annick Fron

Thank you ! I still don't have the hardware to test. Best regards Le 13 janv. 2011 Ã 14:54, Javier PimÃ¡s a Ã©crit : > Well, I think it should be. In SqueakNOS we load squeak/pharo without libc and can work without memory management at all. The thing that should be tricky is were do you place things in memory, so you don't break other programs. > Actually, for libc we implement just a minimal set of needed functions like printf, memcpy, etc (if you are interested you can look at our sqLibc.c file and the makefile which picks functions from glibc). For the functions you mention, I believe pharo can live without them, but of course you'll probably have to create your own platform with makefiles and tweaks. > Also, libraries can be compiled as internal and that should solve most of the problems. > > Hope that helps! > > Javier. > > On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 6:26 AM, Annick Fron <info(a)afceurope.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Is it possible to use pharo on a processor with MMU (Memory Unit Management ) ? > Namely my target OS is a Linux with the following differences : > ============ > > The kernel is a collection of patches to make the standard Linux kernel run on CPUs that do not have an MMU. As a consequence you will encounter some differences between the kernel and the standard Linux behavior: > u no fork() â consider using vfork() instead but beware of the difference of their semantics > u no daemon() â it is usually implemented on top of fork and cannot be easily replaced without changing the semantics. > u fixed stack size -- the stack of an application is set at execution time and cannot grow during runtime. The default stack size is 4k! It can be increased with the "-s" option of m68k-uClinux-elf2flat. > u limited libc compared to glibc -- either add more to libc, or remove some functionality. > u no support for ELF binary file format > u very limited support for shared libraries due to missing MMU -- all applications get linked statically > u mmap() is very inefficient > u no paging -- applications have to be loaded completely into RAM, the heap is very susceptible to fragmentation. > ======== > Annick Fron > > > > -- > Javier PimÃ¡s > Ciudad de Buenos Aires

Jan. 13, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] squeak vm without MMU

by Javier PimÃ¡s

Well, I think it should be. In SqueakNOS we load squeak/pharo without libc and can work without memory management at all. The thing that should be tricky is were do you place things in memory, so you don't break other programs. Actually, for libc we implement just a minimal set of needed functions like printf, memcpy, etc (if you are interested you can look at our sqLibc.c file and the makefile which picks functions from glibc). For the functions you mention, I believe pharo can live without them, but of course you'll probably have to create your own platform with makefiles and tweaks. Also, libraries can be compiled as internal and that should solve most of the problems. Hope that helps! Javier. On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 6:26 AM, Annick Fron <info(a)afceurope.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Is it possible to use pharo on a processor with MMU (Memory Unit Management > ) ? > Namely my target OS is a Linux with the following differences : > ============ > > The kernel is a collection of patches to make the standard Linux kernel > run on CPUs that do not have an MMU. As a consequence you will encounter > some differences between the kernel and the standard Linux behavior: > > u no fork() â consider using vfork() instead but beware of the difference > of their semantics > > u no daemon() â it is usually implemented on top of fork and cannot be > easily replaced without changing the semantics. > > u fixed stack size -- the stack of an application is set at execution time > and cannot grow during runtime. The default stack size is 4k! It can be > increased with the "-s" option of m68k-uClinux-elf2flat. > > u limited libc compared to glibc -- either add more to libc, or remove > some functionality. > > u no support for ELF binary file format > > u very limited support for shared libraries due to missing MMU -- all > applications get linked statically > > u mmap() is very inefficient > > u no paging -- applications have to be loaded completely into RAM, the > heap is very susceptible to fragmentation. > ======== > Annick Fron > -- Javier PimÃ¡s Ciudad de Buenos Aires

Jan. 13, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] [SPAM] Pharo Kernel

by Annick Fron

Yes, I go down to 3.6 Mega instead of 6.3 ... Le 13 janv. 2011 Ã 08:39, StÃ©phane Ducasse a Ã©crit : > you see annick :) > Precise question gets a better chance to be answered. > Let us know if this solve your problem. > > Stef > > On Jan 12, 2011, at 12:15 PM, Annick Fron wrote: > >> OK thanks >> >> Le 12 janv. 2011 Ã 10:31, Sven Van Caekenberghe a Ã©crit : >> >>> >>> On 12 Jan 2011, at 10:23, Annick Fron wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I have donwloaded Pharo-Kernel 12-12229, and I have launched the PharoKernel.image. It comes under Linux with a blank window (where in Windows it is headless). How is it possible to get a real headless kernel on Linux ? >>>> >>>> Annick Fron >>> >>> >>> On Linux server you normally do: >>> >>> squeak -vm-display-null -vm-sound-null <image> >>> >>> Sven >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > >

Jan. 13, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Finding RB parse tree rule for replacements

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

lukas it would be great if you could write some blog entries on RBWriter and that we turn that into a book chapter. We have powerful tools but only two guys knowing how to use them and this is a pity. Stef On Jan 12, 2011, at 7:08 AM, Lukas Renggli wrote: >> 1) In [1] "( RBClass existingNamed: className ) compileTree: replacer >> tree" would be more appropiate? I get a MNU when evaluated with latest >> AST/Refactoring. > > What kind of MNU? > >> 2) The above script have some problems, if you want to get replaced >> >> 'this is a string' asString. >> >> to >> >> 'this is a string' asText >> >> it won't match. The same happens with: " self model asString " and >> other patterns. > > `#literal asString > >> i.e. [: tmp | anObject1 blabla1 blabla2 oldMessage blabla3 ] >> How to modify the rewriter to match >> oldMessage/newMessage at any point? > > ``@obj oldMessage > > Lukas > > -- > Lukas Renggli > www.lukas-renggli.ch >

Jan. 13, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] [SPAM] Pharo Kernel

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

you see annick :) Precise question gets a better chance to be answered. Let us know if this solve your problem. Stef On Jan 12, 2011, at 12:15 PM, Annick Fron wrote: > OK thanks > > Le 12 janv. 2011 Ã 10:31, Sven Van Caekenberghe a Ã©crit : > >> >> On 12 Jan 2011, at 10:23, Annick Fron wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I have donwloaded Pharo-Kernel 12-12229, and I have launched the PharoKernel.image. It comes under Linux with a blank window (where in Windows it is headless). How is it possible to get a real headless kernel on Linux ? >>> >>> Annick Fron >> >> >> On Linux server you normally do: >> >> squeak -vm-display-null -vm-sound-null <image> >> >> Sven >> >> >> > >

Jan. 13, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-project] Updated ConfigurationsOf...scripts?

by Dale Henrichs

HernÃ¡n, It _is_ possible to write some scripts that could automate the checking: ConfigurationOfXXX project updateProject loads the latest version of the mcz file for the configuration. Then you could write a little script like: | project | project := ConfigurationOfXXX project. project updateProject project currentVersion < project latestVersion ifTrue: [ self inform: 'A new version of ConfigurationOXXX is available' ]. to simplify the check for new versions a bit more...you could even automate the load of the newer version if you were brave:) Dale On 01/12/2011 01:56 PM, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand wrote: > Yes thanks. > notice there are 80+ ConfigurationOf... in the MetacelloRepository and > so many not listed there > > 2011/1/12 laurent laffont<laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com>: >> Isn't what you're looking for ? >> http://book.pharo-project.org/book/PharoTools/ >> Laurent >> >> On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 8:44 PM, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand >> <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Ok if there are not, I think is a must, I spend a lot of time >>> searching for the updated scripts or exporting/importing them in my >>> images. What about creating a wiki page in the google project? >>> >>> HernÃ¡n >>> >>> 2011/1/11 HernÃ¡n Morales Durand<hernan.morales(a)gmail.com>: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Is there any page/tool where all the updated ConfigurationOf.... >>>> installing scripts are found? >>>> Best regards, >>>> >>>> -- >>>> HernÃ¡n Morales >>>> Information Technology Manager, >>>> Institute of Veterinary Genetics. >>>> National Scientific and Technical Research Council (CONICET). >>>> La Plata (1900), Buenos Aires, Argentina. >>>> Telephone: +54 (0221) 421-1799. >>>> Internal: 422 >>>> Fax: 425-7980 or 421-1799. >>>> >>> >> >

Jan. 12, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Updated ConfigurationsOf...scripts?

by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand

Yes thanks. notice there are 80+ ConfigurationOf... in the MetacelloRepository and so many not listed there 2011/1/12 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com>: > Isn't what you're looking for ? > http://book.pharo-project.org/book/PharoTools/ > Laurent > > On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 8:44 PM, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand > <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Ok if there are not, I think is a must, I spend a lot of time >> searching for the updated scripts or exporting/importing them in my >> images. What about creating a wiki page in the google project? >> >> HernÃ¡n >> >> 2011/1/11 HernÃ¡n Morales Durand <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com>: >> > Hi, >> > >> > Is there any page/tool where all the updated ConfigurationOf.... >> > installing scripts are found? >> > Best regards, >> > >> > -- >> > HernÃ¡n Morales >> > Information Technology Manager, >> > Institute of Veterinary Genetics. >> > National Scientific and Technical Research Council (CONICET). >> > La Plata (1900), Buenos Aires, Argentina. >> > Telephone: +54 (0221) 421-1799. >> > Internal: 422 >> > Fax: 425-7980 or 421-1799. >> > >> >

Jan. 12, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Updated ConfigurationsOf...scripts?

by laurent laffont

Isn't what you're looking for ? http://book.pharo-project.org/book/PharoTools/ Laurent On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 8:44 PM, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand < hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Ok if there are not, I think is a must, I spend a lot of time > searching for the updated scripts or exporting/importing them in my > images. What about creating a wiki page in the google project? > > HernÃ¡n > > 2011/1/11 HernÃ¡n Morales Durand <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com>: > > Hi, > > > > Is there any page/tool where all the updated ConfigurationOf.... > > installing scripts are found? > > Best regards, > > > > -- > > HernÃ¡n Morales > > Information Technology Manager, > > Institute of Veterinary Genetics. > > National Scientific and Technical Research Council (CONICET). > > La Plata (1900), Buenos Aires, Argentina. > > Telephone: +54 (0221) 421-1799. > > Internal: 422 > > Fax: 425-7980 or 421-1799. > > > >

Jan. 12, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Finding RB parse tree rule for replacements

by Lukas Renggli

> Thanks, just an *idea* you may like: It would be cool to select a > method category, then a menu item for having a rewrite to be applied > only to that category. Refactoring Scope -> Selection Lukas -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

Jan. 12, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Finding RB parse tree rule for replacements

by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand

2011/1/12 Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com>: >>> The stack-trace and your code snippet does not match. There are no >>> references (and should be no references) to #compileTree: or RBClass >>> in the code you pasted into the mail. >> >> The thing was to replace the line marked with [1] as I've commented >> above. > > I don't get it, the code you posted looks ok. > > RBClass is a class private to the framework, you should never need to > instantiate it directly. And if you do, only through an instance of > RBNamespace that provides a delta to the current system state. In your > example you don't need to do that. That's exactly what I wanted to know :) >>> The easiest is probably if you use the refactoring tools as integrated >>> into OB. This does all automatically. >> >> It should be too obvious but I didn't find how. May you comment how to >> perform the task in the script with OB? > > 1. Select "MyClass" > 2. Menu "Refactoring Scope" -> "Class" > 3. Menu "Rewrite Code" and fill the template > 4. Accept the rewrite expression > 5. Review and accept the proposed changes > > This is also show here in a slightly older version of OB: > http://www.lukas-renggli.ch/blog/ob-rb-3 > Thanks, just an *idea* you may like: It would be cool to select a method category, then a menu item for having a rewrite to be applied only to that category. > Lukas > > -- > Lukas Renggli > www.lukas-renggli.ch > >

Jan. 12, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Finding RB parse tree rule for replacements

by Lukas Renggli

>> The stack-trace and your code snippet does not match. There are no >> references (and should be no references) to #compileTree: or RBClass >> in the code you pasted into the mail. > > The thing was to replace the line marked with [1] as I've commented > above. I don't get it, the code you posted looks ok. RBClass is a class private to the framework, you should never need to instantiate it directly. And if you do, only through an instance of RBNamespace that provides a delta to the current system state. In your example you don't need to do that. >> The easiest is probably if you use the refactoring tools as integrated >> into OB. This does all automatically. > > It should be too obvious but I didn't find how. May you comment how to > perform the task in the script with OB? 1. Select "MyClass" 2. Menu "Refactoring Scope" -> "Class" 3. Menu "Rewrite Code" and fill the template 4. Accept the rewrite expression 5. Review and accept the proposed changes This is also show here in a slightly older version of OB: http://www.lukas-renggli.ch/blog/ob-rb-3 Lukas -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

Jan. 12, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Updated ConfigurationsOf...scripts?

by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand

Ok if there are not, I think is a must, I spend a lot of time searching for the updated scripts or exporting/importing them in my images. What about creating a wiki page in the google project? HernÃ¡n 2011/1/11 HernÃ¡n Morales Durand <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com>: > Hi, > > Is there any page/tool where all the updated ConfigurationOf.... > installing scripts are found? > Best regards, > > -- > HernÃ¡n Morales > Information Technology Manager, > Institute of Veterinary Genetics. > National Scientific and Technical Research Council (CONICET). > La Plata (1900), Buenos Aires, Argentina. > Telephone: +54 (0221) 421-1799. > Internal: 422 > Fax: 425-7980 or 421-1799. >

Jan. 12, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Finding RB parse tree rule for replacements

by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand

2011/1/12 Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com>: > The stack-trace and your code snippet does not match. There are no > references (and should be no references) to #compileTree: or RBClass > in the code you pasted into the mail. > The thing was to replace the line marked with [1] as I've commented above. If you file in the attached dummy class and evaluate the following script should be reproduceable: | className realClass replacer category | className := #MyClass. realClass := Smalltalk at: className. category := #accessing. replacer := RBParseTreeRewriter new replace: '`receiver asString' with: '`receiver asText'; yourself. (realClass organization listAtCategoryNamed: category) collect: [:sel | | parseTree | parseTree := ( realClass >> sel) parseTree. (replacer executeTree: parseTree) ifTrue: [ ( RBClass existingNamed: className ) compileTree: replacer tree ] ] > The easiest is probably if you use the refactoring tools as integrated > into OB. This does all automatically. It should be too obvious but I didn't find how. May you comment how to perform the task in the script with OB? Thanks, HernÃ¡n > Lukas > > On 12 January 2011 08:47, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand > <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> 2011/1/12 Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com>: >>>> 1) In [1] "( RBClass existingNamed: className ) compileTree: replacer >>>> tree" would be more appropiate? I get a MNU when evaluated with latest >>>> AST/Refactoring. >>> >>> What kind of MNU? >>> >> >> Debug log attached >> >>>> 2) The above script have some problems, if you want to get replaced >>>> >>>> 'this is a string' asString. >>>> >>>> to >>>> >>>> 'this is a string' asText >>>> >>>> it won't match. The same happens with: " self model asString " and >>>> other patterns. >>> >>> `#literal asString >>> >>>> i.e. [: tmp | anObject1 blabla1 blabla2 oldMessage blabla3 ] >>>> How to modify the rewriter to match >>>> oldMessage/newMessage at any point? >>> >>> ``@obj oldMessage >>> >>> Lukas >>> >> >> Cool, thanks! >> > > > > -- > Lukas Renggli > www.lukas-renggli.ch > >

Jan. 12, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Finding RB parse tree rule for replacements

by Lukas Renggli

The stack-trace and your code snippet does not match. There are no references (and should be no references) to #compileTree: or RBClass in the code you pasted into the mail. The easiest is probably if you use the refactoring tools as integrated into OB. This does all automatically. Lukas On 12 January 2011 08:47, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> wrote: > 2011/1/12 Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com>: >>> 1) In [1] "( RBClass existingNamed: className ) compileTree: replacer >>> tree" would be more appropiate? I get a MNU when evaluated with latest >>> AST/Refactoring. >> >> What kind of MNU? >> > > Debug log attached > >>> 2) The above script have some problems, if you want to get replaced >>> >>> 'this is a string' asString. >>> >>> to >>> >>> 'this is a string' asText >>> >>> it won't match. The same happens with: " self model asString " and >>> other patterns. >> >> `#literal asString >> >>> i.e. [: tmp | anObject1 blabla1 blabla2 oldMessage blabla3 ] >>> How to modify the rewriter to match >>> oldMessage/newMessage at any point? >> >> ``@obj oldMessage >> >> Lukas >> > > Cool, thanks! > -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

Jan. 12, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] [SPAM] Pharo Kernel

by Annick Fron

OK thanks Le 12 janv. 2011 Ã 10:31, Sven Van Caekenberghe a Ã©crit : > > On 12 Jan 2011, at 10:23, Annick Fron wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I have donwloaded Pharo-Kernel 12-12229, and I have launched the PharoKernel.image. It comes under Linux with a blank window (where in Windows it is headless). How is it possible to get a real headless kernel on Linux ? >> >> Annick Fron > > > On Linux server you normally do: > > squeak -vm-display-null -vm-sound-null <image> > > Sven > > >

Jan. 12, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] [SPAM] Pharo Kernel

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 12 Jan 2011, at 10:23, Annick Fron wrote: > Hi, > > I have donwloaded Pharo-Kernel 12-12229, and I have launched the PharoKernel.image. It comes under Linux with a blank window (where in Windows it is headless). How is it possible to get a real headless kernel on Linux ? > > Annick Fron On Linux server you normally do: squeak -vm-display-null -vm-sound-null <image> Sven

Jan. 12, 2011

squeak vm without MMU

by Annick Fron

Hi, Is it possible to use pharo on a processor with MMU (Memory Unit Management ) ? Namely my target OS is a Linux with the following differences : ============ The kernel is a collection of patches to make the standard Linux kernel run on CPUs that do not have an MMU. As a consequence you will encounter some differences between the kernel and the standard Linux behavior: u no fork() â consider using vfork() instead but beware of the difference of their semantics u no daemon() â it is usually implemented on top of fork and cannot be easily replaced without changing the semantics. u fixed stack size -- the stack of an application is set at execution time and cannot grow during runtime. The default stack size is 4k! It can be increased with the "-s" option of m68k-uClinux-elf2flat. u limited libc compared to glibc -- either add more to libc, or remove some functionality. u no support for ELF binary file format u very limited support for shared libraries due to missing MMU -- all applications get linked statically u mmap() is very inefficient u no paging -- applications have to be loaded completely into RAM, the heap is very susceptible to fragmentation. ======== Annick Fron

Jan. 12, 2011

Pharo Kernel

by Annick Fron

Hi, I have donwloaded Pharo-Kernel 12-12229, and I have launched the PharoKernel.image. It comes under Linux with a blank window (where in Windows it is headless). How is it possible to get a real headless kernel on Linux ? Annick Fron

Jan. 12, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Finding RB parse tree rule for replacements

by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand

2011/1/12 Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com>: >> 1) In [1] "( RBClass existingNamed: className ) compileTree: replacer >> tree" would be more appropiate? I get a MNU when evaluated with latest >> AST/Refactoring. > > What kind of MNU? > Debug log attached >> 2) The above script have some problems, if you want to get replaced >> >> 'this is a string' asString. >> >> to >> >> 'this is a string' asText >> >> it won't match. The same happens with: " self model asString " and >> other patterns. > > `#literal asString > >> i.e. [: tmp | anObject1 blabla1 blabla2 oldMessage blabla3 ] >> How to modify the rewriter to match >> oldMessage/newMessage at any point? > > ``@obj oldMessage > > Lukas > Cool, thanks!

Jan. 12, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Finding RB parse tree rule for replacements

by Lukas Renggli

> 1) In [1] "( RBClass existingNamed: className ) compileTree: replacer > tree" would be more appropiate? I get a MNU when evaluated with latest > AST/Refactoring. What kind of MNU? > 2) The above script have some problems, if you want to get replaced > > 'this is a string' asString. > > to > > 'this is a string' asText > > it won't match. The same happens with: " self model asString " and > other patterns. `#literal asString > i.e. [: tmp | anObject1 blabla1 blabla2 oldMessage blabla3 ] > How to modify the rewriter to match > oldMessage/newMessage at any point? ``@obj oldMessage Lukas -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

Jan. 12, 2011

Finding RB parse tree rule for replacements

by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand

Recently I wanted to replace all method sends of oldMessage to newMessage in a specific method category in a class, then I wrote this little script I want to share with you: | className realClass replacer category | className := #MyClass. realClass := Smalltalk at: className. category := #accessing. replacer := RBParseTreeRewriter new replace: '`receiver oldMessage' with: '`receiver newMessage'; yourself. (realClass organization listAtCategoryNamed: category) collect: [:sel | | parseTree | parseTree := ( realClass >> sel) parseTree. (replacer executeTree: parseTree) ifTrue: [ realClass compile: replacer tree newSource " [1] " ] ] Now some questions: 1) In [1] "( RBClass existingNamed: className ) compileTree: replacer tree" would be more appropiate? I get a MNU when evaluated with latest AST/Refactoring. 2) The above script have some problems, if you want to get replaced 'this is a string' asString. to 'this is a string' asText it won't match. The same happens with: " self model asString " and other patterns. How to modify the rewriter to match oldMessage/newMessage at any point? i.e. [: tmp | anObject1 blabla1 blabla2 oldMessage blabla3 ] Thanks in advance, -- HernÃ¡n Morales Information Technology Manager, Institute of Veterinary Genetics. National Scientific and Technical Research Council (CONICET). La Plata (1900), Buenos Aires, Argentina. Telephone: +54 (0221) 421-1799. Internal: 422 Fax: 425-7980 or 421-1799.

Jan. 12, 2011

Updated ConfigurationsOf...scripts?

by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand

Hi, Is there any page/tool where all the updated ConfigurationOf.... installing scripts are found? Best regards, -- HernÃ¡n Morales Information Technology Manager, Institute of Veterinary Genetics. National Scientific and Technical Research Council (CONICET). La Plata (1900), Buenos Aires, Argentina. Telephone: +54 (0221) 421-1799. Internal: 422 Fax: 425-7980 or 421-1799.

Jan. 12, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Minimal pharo

by Annick Fron

Hi, I have tried the minimal pharo, yet on Linux it opens a blank window. How is it possible to get rid of it ? Annick Le 5 janv. 2011 Ã 09:16, Luc Fabresse a Ã©crit : > Hi all, > > Yes, I agree with Adrian, all cleanings should be integrated. > Perhaps in #cleanUpForProduction that already integrates some elements pointed by Mariano. > > #Luc > > > 2011/1/5 Adrian Lienhard <adi(a)netstyle.ch> > > On Jan 4, 2011, at 22:42 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > ps: I wonder if any of those scripts should be added to ScriptLoader > > Yes, that would be good! Like this we can improve them and other people can contribute. > > Esteban, could you share your experience with unloading packages? I assume you had to also reorganize packages to make them cleanly unloadable? If yes these changes should be integrated to improve the modularization. > > Cheers, > Adrian >

Jan. 10, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Smalltalk server pages

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Jan 6, 2011, at 3:04 PM, Annick Fron wrote: > Zinc look great, small and fast > > How is it possible to check seaside dependencies to get a minimal seaside ? normally Seaside 30 is modular so check the configuration or the loading script because you should get a small kernel > Annick Fron > > Le 5 janv. 2011 Ã 13:37, StÃ©phane Ducasse a Ã©crit : > >> did you check Zinc on squeaksource? >> there is also H***View (goran and giovanni framework) sorry I could not find the name. >> >> Stef >> >> On Jan 5, 2011, at 12:43 PM, Annick Fron wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> and in order to get a minimum of dynamic pages, (I think Seaside will be too large for my memory) what is best to get simple Smalltalk server pages, swazoo or Komhttpserver ? >>> >>> Annick Fron >> >> >> > >

Jan. 6, 2011