July 2010 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] OMeta package for pharo?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Jul 31, 2010, at 6:05 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > Well, > > I was thinking about the same and I had quick peek at PetitParser. Somehow I tend to play with OMeta first. PetitParser looks promising but how is it possible to write a readable grammar if 60-80% of your grammar is the word "asParser"? PetitParser grammar are not full of 60%-80% with asParser. Have a look at PetitSmalltalk. What I liked is that in 30 when could cherry pick the smalltalk grammar and get the one for coral by recomposing the little parser you do like. Also try OMeta and when you will find it too slow come to use petitParser because petitParser is nearly the same speed as Smacc generated one and this is not the case of OMeta. It is up to you. And I prefer to use a language I like instead of another one.... Now what would be nice is to have an EBNF -> petitParser parser transformer. Stef > > Norbert > > On 31.07.2010, at 17:39, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> you can also have a look at PetitParser. >> >> Stef >> >> On Jul 29, 2010, at 3:14 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: >> >>> Hmm, I've could have looked at squeaksource first :) And there it is. >>> >>> N. >>> >>> On 29.07.2010, at 14:11, Norbert Hartl wrote: >>> >>>> Is there a package of OMeta that can be installed in pharo. All I found was a .sar package somewhere. Maybe there is something newer, more adjusted? >>>> >>>> thanks, >>>> >>>> NOrbert >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-users mailing list >>>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-users mailing list >>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-users mailing list >> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users

July 31, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Couple of newbie questions

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

mariano we should turn that into an FAQ and add it to the collabactive book? Stef On Jul 24, 2010, at 8:09 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Thomas Worthington <thomas(a)2worthingtons.net> wrote: > Hi everyone, > > > Hi and welcome! > > Two questions: > > 1) How do I get my Pharo 1.0 to "upgrade" to the 1.1 image? > > > The system update is disabled in purpose. The Pharo image cannot be updated anymore. Only PharoCore images can be updated. So..what you have to do is to just download a Pharo 1.1 image :) > > If you are curious why updates were disable, read: http://forum.world.st/update-1-1-11371-tp2229126p2231195.html > > Just FYI the latest 1.1 release is here: https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/27254/Pharo-1.1-11409-rc4dev10.07.… > > as you can see in http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download > > 2) How do I make a "one-click" image that will start my app when clicked? > > > Very easy. Two options: > > - Take your new image (both .image and .changes), put exactly the same file names, and override the original files that can be found in /Contents/Resources . I think they are named Pharo-1.0.image and Pharo-1.0.changes > > - This option is the proper one. It depends on the OS you are using. If you are in Linux, just edit the Pharo.sh file so that it points to your new image (where it says "$RES/Pharo-1.0.image"). If you are in Windows, edit the Pharo.ini file where it says "ImageFile=Contents\Resources\Pharo-1.0.image". > > Sorry if these are FAQs, but I couldn't find answers via Google. > > > We should add it to FAQ or book. > > Where you aware of http://book.pharo-project.org/ and http://pharobyexample.org/ ? > > Cheers > > Mariano > > TW > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users

July 31, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] OMeta package for pharo?

by Norbert Hartl

Well, I was thinking about the same and I had quick peek at PetitParser. Somehow I tend to play with OMeta first. PetitParser looks promising but how is it possible to write a readable grammar if 60-80% of your grammar is the word "asParser"? Norbert On 31.07.2010, at 17:39, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > you can also have a look at PetitParser. > > Stef > > On Jul 29, 2010, at 3:14 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > >> Hmm, I've could have looked at squeaksource first :) And there it is. >> >> N. >> >> On 29.07.2010, at 14:11, Norbert Hartl wrote: >> >>> Is there a package of OMeta that can be installed in pharo. All I found was a .sar package somewhere. Maybe there is something newer, more adjusted? >>> >>> thanks, >>> >>> NOrbert >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-users mailing list >>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-users mailing list >> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users

July 31, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-project] Recent Messages Browser

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Jul 30, 2010, at 10:47 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 2:47 AM, Benjamin Van Ryseghem <benjamin.vanryseghem(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi everybody, > > > > I've rewrited a recent messages browser based on MorphTreeMorph. > > > Hi, this is very good idea! > > > If you can test it and tell me what's do you think about, it will be cool (I'm a new Smalltalker ^^) > > > welcome! > > > You can download code here : > > Gofer new > squeaksource: 'PharoTaskForces'; > package: 'RecentSubmissions'; > load. > > > To launch it, just click on the World >> Tools >> Recent Messages. > > You can set it up in the Setting Menu >> Code browsing >> Recent Message. > > > > Ok...I did it. A few remarks: > > 1) RecentMessageList >> initialize > > you do > > SmalltalkImage current addToStartUpList: self class. > > but should be SmalltalkImage addToStartUpList: self class. just Smalltalk addToStartUpList: self class. > > > (at least in Pharo 1.1) > > 2) What is the idea of the Recent Messages? To see the recent MODIFIED methods ? isn't it? If true, maybe would be good to > 2.1) directly show the diff with the previous version > 2.2) Have a button to see the versions of that method > > 3) Once you press any button, like collapse all or similar, they become blue and neve grey again > > 4) When is the list of recen messages clean ? how do you know the recen messages? you store that information somewhere? when is that cleaned? > > > Thank you very much and continue with the good work! Maybe once we can include it by defult in Pharo. yes this is the point. >

July 31, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] OMeta package for pharo?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

you can also have a look at PetitParser. Stef On Jul 29, 2010, at 3:14 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > Hmm, I've could have looked at squeaksource first :) And there it is. > > N. > > On 29.07.2010, at 14:11, Norbert Hartl wrote: > >> Is there a package of OMeta that can be installed in pharo. All I found was a .sar package somewhere. Maybe there is something newer, more adjusted? >> >> thanks, >> >> NOrbert >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-users mailing list >> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users

July 31, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] pharo development behind an ISA proxy server

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

can you open one issue for setting and another one for the creditentials? Stef On Jul 27, 2010, at 2:26 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > Hi. > > On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 2:16 PM, zekUs <zekzekus(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > I am glad to see the new release of Pharo. thanks to all people make this happen. > > > :) > > I am developing behind an ISA proxy server at work. this proxy server needs user creditentials to connect through it. in new settings browser comes with pharo 1.1 i found options about proxy host and port but no place for user creditentials. > > > Hi. It's weird...At some point there were the form to put username and password, but I have just checked and you are right. > > Can you try to evaluate something like this: > > HTTPSocket useProxyServerNamed: '10.100.1.4' port: 9090 proxyUser: 'XXX' password: 'YYY' > > You can also read this thread: > > http://forum.world.st/Problem-with-Proxy-in-1-1-tp1311756p1311756.html > > Alain any idea? > > Cheers > > Mariano > > > is there a way to access metacello repositories through a authenticated proxy server? > > thanks. > > -- > Zekeriya "zekUs" KOÃ - http://zekzekus.com/blog > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users

July 31, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] pharo development behind an ISA proxy server

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

this is strange can you check in squeak? I saw some code of andreas adding creditentials but when I checked we already got these changes. Stef On Jul 27, 2010, at 3:35 PM, zekUs wrote: > i read the thread now. > > and i tried to enter username as DOMAIN\user.name and user.name and domain\user.name but no one worked. > > i evaluated username password above from workspace but no chance. > > 2010/7/27 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> > Hi. > > On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 2:16 PM, zekUs <zekzekus(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > I am glad to see the new release of Pharo. thanks to all people make this happen. > > > :) > > I am developing behind an ISA proxy server at work. this proxy server needs user creditentials to connect through it. in new settings browser comes with pharo 1.1 i found options about proxy host and port but no place for user creditentials. > > > Hi. It's weird...At some point there were the form to put username and password, but I have just checked and you are right. > > Can you try to evaluate something like this: > > HTTPSocket useProxyServerNamed: '10.100.1.4' port: 9090 proxyUser: 'XXX' password: 'YYY' > > You can also read this thread: > > http://forum.world.st/Problem-with-Proxy-in-1-1-tp1311756p1311756.html > > Alain any idea? > > Cheers > > Mariano > > > is there a way to access metacello repositories through a authenticated proxy server? > > thanks. > > -- > Zekeriya "zekUs" KOÃ - http://zekzekus.com/blog > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > > > -- > Zekeriya "zekUs" KOÃ - http://zekzekus.com/blog > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users

July 31, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Rotating a String or Text Morph

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Hi Carla. Yes, this is a known problem. I am not sure what is the status neither if there is a fix. Read: http://forum.world.st/Problem-with-TransformationMorph-td1691811.html#a1691… http://forum.world.st/Canvas-transform-bug-when-rendering-text-td1754208.ht… http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2207 Let us know. Cheers Mariano On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 1:08 AM, Carla F. Griggio <carla.griggio(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Hi everyone! > > I'm trying to rotate a String or Text Morph. The way I'm doing this is > evaluating: > > transform:= (TransformationMorph new asFlexOf: 'hola' asStringMorph) > openInWorld . > > The string morph opens in the world and it looks OK. Now, I rotate it > doing: > > transform angle: 80. > > And it rotates OK, but a black background appears and I don't know how to > remove that, I can't find what's making that black background appear. > > Am I doing something wrong? Is there another way to rotate a string morph? > > Thank you! > > Carla > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > >

July 31, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Disabling Fractions ?

by Lukas Renggli

That's difficult to do, because the system uses them. Of course you could use machinery like Reflectivity or Helvetia to make sure they never appear in your context. Lukas On 31 July 2010 08:33, Stanislav Paskalev <kshorg(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > What is the best way to disable fractions or automatically convert > them into say floats ? > > Stanislav Paskalev > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

July 31, 2010

Disabling Fractions ?

by Stanislav Paskalev

Hi, What is the best way to disable fractions or automatically convert them into say floats ? Stanislav Paskalev

July 31, 2010