July 2010 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] Couple of newbie questions

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Grrrr I know you were going to bother with that ;) I couldn't scape jahahaha ok...here it is: http://book.pharo-project.org/book/FAQ/ BUT I HATE MY STYLE. I cannot put a nice CSS or display of the page. If someone can help me, please....it is ugly. In addition, I didn't add it to http://www.pharo-project.org/documentation/faq because I think they are different kinds of FAQ. what do you think? I still hope someone has time to migrate the techincal stufff from SCG to the new book. It would be awesome. http://scg.unibe.ch/wiki/faq/pharo Cheers Mariano On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 6:35 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > wrote: > mariano > > we should turn that into an FAQ and add it to the collabactive book? > > Stef > > On Jul 24, 2010, at 8:09 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Thomas Worthington < > thomas(a)2worthingtons.net> wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > Hi and welcome! > > > > Two questions: > > > > 1) How do I get my Pharo 1.0 to "upgrade" to the 1.1 image? > > > > > > The system update is disabled in purpose. The Pharo image cannot be > updated anymore. Only PharoCore images can be updated. So..what you have to > do is to just download a Pharo 1.1 image :) > > > > If you are curious why updates were disable, read: > http://forum.world.st/update-1-1-11371-tp2229126p2231195.html > > > > Just FYI the latest 1.1 release is here: > https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/27254/Pharo-1.1-11409-rc4dev10.07.… > > > > as you can see in http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download > > > > 2) How do I make a "one-click" image that will start my app when clicked? > > > > > > Very easy. Two options: > > > > - Take your new image (both .image and .changes), put exactly the same > file names, and override the original files that can be found in > /Contents/Resources . I think they are named Pharo-1.0.image and > Pharo-1.0.changes > > > > - This option is the proper one. It depends on the OS you are using. If > you are in Linux, just edit the Pharo.sh file so that it points to your new > image (where it says "$RES/Pharo-1.0.image"). If you are in Windows, edit > the Pharo.ini file where it says > "ImageFile=Contents\Resources\Pharo-1.0.image". > > > > Sorry if these are FAQs, but I couldn't find answers via Google. > > > > > > We should add it to FAQ or book. > > > > Where you aware of http://book.pharo-project.org/ and > http://pharobyexample.org/ ? > > > > Cheers > > > > Mariano > > > > TW > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-users mailing list > > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-users mailing list > > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >

July 31, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Disabling Fractions ?

by Stanislav Paskalev

Purely for display. I'm doing a very basic accounting app that does not need full accuracy, but saying that the client should pay (X/Y) amount of cash .. that will be a problem :) In the end, I might as well keep fractions for the model itself, and just add asFloat on the view wherever required. On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 10:41 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >> That's the way I'm doing it now, but it's redundant to put asFloat at >> the end of each division. There *should* be a more elegant way, at >> least I hope so :) > > why? > I do not like to manipulate float when I can have exact math operations. > So I put asFloat exactly when I know I want to leave the math world to end up in the computer science world. > > Why do you need float and not fraction? > You crunch matrix resolution with large numbers? > > Stef > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >

July 31, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Disabling Fractions ?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

> That's the way I'm doing it now, but it's redundant to put asFloat at > the end of each division. There *should* be a more elegant way, at > least I hope so :) why? I do not like to manipulate float when I can have exact math operations. So I put asFloat exactly when I know I want to leave the math world to end up in the computer science world. Why do you need float and not fraction? You crunch matrix resolution with large numbers? Stef

July 31, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Disabling Fractions ?

by Stanislav Paskalev

That's the way I'm doing it now, but it's redundant to put asFloat at the end of each division. There *should* be a more elegant way, at least I hope so :) Stanislav Paskalev On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 10:32 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > asFloat? > > > Stef > > On Jul 31, 2010, at 8:33 AM, Stanislav Paskalev wrote: > >> Hi, >> What is the best way to disable fractions or automatically convert >> them into say floats ? >> >> Stanislav Paskalev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-users mailing list >> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >

July 31, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Disabling Fractions ?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

asFloat? Stef On Jul 31, 2010, at 8:33 AM, Stanislav Paskalev wrote: > Hi, > What is the best way to disable fractions or automatically convert > them into say floats ? > > Stanislav Paskalev > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users

July 31, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] RecentMessageList

by Benjamin Van Ryseghem

> Ok...I did it. A few remarks: > > 1) RecentMessageList >> initialize > > you do > > SmalltalkImage current addToStartUpList: self class. > > but should be SmalltalkImage addToStartUpList: self class. >just Smalltalk addToStartUpList: self class. Thank you, it's done ^^ > > > (at least in Pharo 1.1) > > 2) What is the idea of the Recent Messages? To see the recent MODIFIED methods ? isn't it? If true, maybe would be good to > 2.1) directly show the diff with the previous version I do not know how to do that, I'll search :) > 2.2) Have a button to see the versions of that method Good idea, but it means having the RecentMessageList already running ^^ > > 3) Once you press any button, like collapse all or similar, they become blue and neve grey again I have not this bug :( The collapse and expend button are disabled when the list is empty. The buttons browse and remove are enabled only when an item is selectioned. > > 4) When is the list of recen messages clean ? how do you know the recen messages? you store that information somewhere? when is that cleaned? The list is empty when you just have initialize the RecentMessageList (ie the first time you launch it) but you can reset the list by sending : RecentMessageList resetUniqueInstance Otherwise it's never automatically cleaned (but you can remove each node you want) I know the recent messages by registering the class in the SystemChangeNotifier, and they are stored in the RecentMessageList uniqueInstance messageList > > > Thank you very much and continue with the good work! Maybe once we can include it by defult in Pharo. > yes this is the point. Thank you both for your advice

July 31, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] OMeta package for pharo?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Jul 31, 2010, at 9:12 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > > On 31.07.2010, at 20:06, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> >> On Jul 31, 2010, at 6:05 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: >> >>> Well, >>> >>> I was thinking about the same and I had quick peek at PetitParser. Somehow I tend to play with OMeta first. PetitParser looks promising but how is it possible to write a readable grammar if 60-80% of your grammar is the word "asParser"? >> >> PetitParser grammar are not full of 60%-80% with asParser. Have a look at PetitSmalltalk. What I liked >> is that in 30 when could cherry pick the smalltalk grammar and get the one for coral by recomposing the little parser you do like. > > Sorry, but I didn't grok that sentence. should not write mail eating ice cream :) >> What I liked is that in 30 min when could cherry pick the Smalltalk grammar >> and get the one for Coral by recomposing the little parsers you don't like. > >> Also try OMeta and when you will find it too slow come to use petitParser because petitParser is nearly the same speed as >> Smacc generated one and this is not the case of OMeta. It is up to you. > > I don't care about speed at the moment. At the moment I think OMeta is much more powerful. If I'll find out it is not or it provides powers I don't need than the speed argument could be somehting valuable. > >> And I prefer to use a language I like instead of another one.... Now what would be nice is to have an EBNF -> petitParser parser transformer. >> > Well, if you start to parse and analyze a different language with the parser then the phrase "prefer to use a language I like" becomes ambiguous really quick, don't you agree :) I like the asParser because this is explicit. And again try and see. I tried OMeta, read the papers and I prefer to be able to compose parser based on other ones like proposed by petit parser. > An EBNF parser would be indeed nice. Apparently there is one. > That is one thing I'm dreaming off for decades now. Using helvetia might solve this. But then DSLs are just different languages, too. > > If this is like the other projects for which I don't find enough time than all of my arguments are just...we'll see > > thanks, > > Norbert > >> Stef >>> >>> Norbert >>> >>> On 31.07.2010, at 17:39, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >>> >>>> you can also have a look at PetitParser. >>>> >>>> Stef >>>> >>>> On Jul 29, 2010, at 3:14 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hmm, I've could have looked at squeaksource first :) And there it is. >>>>> >>>>> N. >>>>> >>>>> On 29.07.2010, at 14:11, Norbert Hartl wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Is there a package of OMeta that can be installed in pharo. All I found was a .sar package somewhere. Maybe there is something newer, more adjusted? >>>>>> >>>>>> thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> NOrbert >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-users mailing list >>>>>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-users mailing list >>>>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-users mailing list >>>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-users mailing list >>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-users mailing list >> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users

July 31, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] OMeta package for pharo?

by Norbert Hartl

On 31.07.2010, at 20:06, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > > On Jul 31, 2010, at 6:05 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > >> Well, >> >> I was thinking about the same and I had quick peek at PetitParser. Somehow I tend to play with OMeta first. PetitParser looks promising but how is it possible to write a readable grammar if 60-80% of your grammar is the word "asParser"? > > PetitParser grammar are not full of 60%-80% with asParser. Have a look at PetitSmalltalk. What I liked > is that in 30 when could cherry pick the smalltalk grammar and get the one for coral by recomposing the little parser you do like. Sorry, but I didn't grok that sentence. > Also try OMeta and when you will find it too slow come to use petitParser because petitParser is nearly the same speed as > Smacc generated one and this is not the case of OMeta. It is up to you. I don't care about speed at the moment. At the moment I think OMeta is much more powerful. If I'll find out it is not or it provides powers I don't need than the speed argument could be somehting valuable. > And I prefer to use a language I like instead of another one.... Now what would be nice is to have an EBNF -> petitParser parser transformer. > Well, if you start to parse and analyze a different language with the parser then the phrase "prefer to use a language I like" becomes ambiguous really quick, don't you agree :) An EBNF parser would be indeed nice. That is one thing I'm dreaming off for decades now. Using helvetia might solve this. But then DSLs are just different languages, too. If this is like the other projects for which I don't find enough time than all of my arguments are just...we'll see thanks, Norbert > Stef >> >> Norbert >> >> On 31.07.2010, at 17:39, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> >>> you can also have a look at PetitParser. >>> >>> Stef >>> >>> On Jul 29, 2010, at 3:14 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: >>> >>>> Hmm, I've could have looked at squeaksource first :) And there it is. >>>> >>>> N. >>>> >>>> On 29.07.2010, at 14:11, Norbert Hartl wrote: >>>> >>>>> Is there a package of OMeta that can be installed in pharo. All I found was a .sar package somewhere. Maybe there is something newer, more adjusted? >>>>> >>>>> thanks, >>>>> >>>>> NOrbert >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-users mailing list >>>>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-users mailing list >>>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-users mailing list >>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-users mailing list >> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users

July 31, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] OMeta package for pharo?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Thanks for the update :) >> And I prefer to use a language I like instead of another one.... Now what would be nice is to have an EBNF -> petitParser parser transformer. > > That exists, you "just" need to load Helvetia. > > Alternatively you can use the Grammar workbench that comes with > PetitParser, it automatically adds necessary converter methods. > > Lukas > > >> >> Stef >>> >>> Norbert >>> >>> On 31.07.2010, at 17:39, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >>> >>>> you can also have a look at PetitParser. >>>> >>>> Stef >>>> >>>> On Jul 29, 2010, at 3:14 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hmm, I've could have looked at squeaksource first :) And there it is. >>>>> >>>>> N. >>>>> >>>>> On 29.07.2010, at 14:11, Norbert Hartl wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Is there a package of OMeta that can be installed in pharo. All I found was a .sar package somewhere. Maybe there is something newer, more adjusted? >>>>>> >>>>>> thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> NOrbert >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-users mailing list >>>>>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-users mailing list >>>>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-users mailing list >>>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-users mailing list >>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-users mailing list >> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >> > > > > -- > Lukas Renggli > www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users

July 31, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] OMeta package for pharo?

by Lukas Renggli

> And I prefer to use a language I like instead of another one.... Now what would be nice is to have an EBNF -> petitParser parser transformer. That exists, you "just" need to load Helvetia. Alternatively you can use the Grammar workbench that comes with PetitParser, it automatically adds necessary converter methods. Lukas > > Stef >> >> Norbert >> >> On 31.07.2010, at 17:39, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> >>> you can also have a look at PetitParser. >>> >>> Stef >>> >>> On Jul 29, 2010, at 3:14 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: >>> >>>> Hmm, I've could have looked at squeaksource first :) And there it is. >>>> >>>> N. >>>> >>>> On 29.07.2010, at 14:11, Norbert Hartl wrote: >>>> >>>>> Is there a package of OMeta that can be installed in pharo. All I found was a .sar package somewhere. Maybe there is something newer, more adjusted? >>>>> >>>>> thanks, >>>>> >>>>> NOrbert >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-users mailing list >>>>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-users mailing list >>>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-users mailing list >>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-users mailing list >> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

July 31, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] OMeta package for pharo?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Jul 31, 2010, at 6:05 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > Well, > > I was thinking about the same and I had quick peek at PetitParser. Somehow I tend to play with OMeta first. PetitParser looks promising but how is it possible to write a readable grammar if 60-80% of your grammar is the word "asParser"? PetitParser grammar are not full of 60%-80% with asParser. Have a look at PetitSmalltalk. What I liked is that in 30 when could cherry pick the smalltalk grammar and get the one for coral by recomposing the little parser you do like. Also try OMeta and when you will find it too slow come to use petitParser because petitParser is nearly the same speed as Smacc generated one and this is not the case of OMeta. It is up to you. And I prefer to use a language I like instead of another one.... Now what would be nice is to have an EBNF -> petitParser parser transformer. Stef > > Norbert > > On 31.07.2010, at 17:39, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> you can also have a look at PetitParser. >> >> Stef >> >> On Jul 29, 2010, at 3:14 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: >> >>> Hmm, I've could have looked at squeaksource first :) And there it is. >>> >>> N. >>> >>> On 29.07.2010, at 14:11, Norbert Hartl wrote: >>> >>>> Is there a package of OMeta that can be installed in pharo. All I found was a .sar package somewhere. Maybe there is something newer, more adjusted? >>>> >>>> thanks, >>>> >>>> NOrbert >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-users mailing list >>>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-users mailing list >>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-users mailing list >> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users

July 31, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Couple of newbie questions

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

mariano we should turn that into an FAQ and add it to the collabactive book? Stef On Jul 24, 2010, at 8:09 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Thomas Worthington <thomas(a)2worthingtons.net> wrote: > Hi everyone, > > > Hi and welcome! > > Two questions: > > 1) How do I get my Pharo 1.0 to "upgrade" to the 1.1 image? > > > The system update is disabled in purpose. The Pharo image cannot be updated anymore. Only PharoCore images can be updated. So..what you have to do is to just download a Pharo 1.1 image :) > > If you are curious why updates were disable, read: http://forum.world.st/update-1-1-11371-tp2229126p2231195.html > > Just FYI the latest 1.1 release is here: https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/27254/Pharo-1.1-11409-rc4dev10.07.… > > as you can see in http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download > > 2) How do I make a "one-click" image that will start my app when clicked? > > > Very easy. Two options: > > - Take your new image (both .image and .changes), put exactly the same file names, and override the original files that can be found in /Contents/Resources . I think they are named Pharo-1.0.image and Pharo-1.0.changes > > - This option is the proper one. It depends on the OS you are using. If you are in Linux, just edit the Pharo.sh file so that it points to your new image (where it says "$RES/Pharo-1.0.image"). If you are in Windows, edit the Pharo.ini file where it says "ImageFile=Contents\Resources\Pharo-1.0.image". > > Sorry if these are FAQs, but I couldn't find answers via Google. > > > We should add it to FAQ or book. > > Where you aware of http://book.pharo-project.org/ and http://pharobyexample.org/ ? > > Cheers > > Mariano > > TW > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users

July 31, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] OMeta package for pharo?

by Norbert Hartl

Well, I was thinking about the same and I had quick peek at PetitParser. Somehow I tend to play with OMeta first. PetitParser looks promising but how is it possible to write a readable grammar if 60-80% of your grammar is the word "asParser"? Norbert On 31.07.2010, at 17:39, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > you can also have a look at PetitParser. > > Stef > > On Jul 29, 2010, at 3:14 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > >> Hmm, I've could have looked at squeaksource first :) And there it is. >> >> N. >> >> On 29.07.2010, at 14:11, Norbert Hartl wrote: >> >>> Is there a package of OMeta that can be installed in pharo. All I found was a .sar package somewhere. Maybe there is something newer, more adjusted? >>> >>> thanks, >>> >>> NOrbert >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-users mailing list >>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-users mailing list >> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users

July 31, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-project] Recent Messages Browser

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Jul 30, 2010, at 10:47 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 2:47 AM, Benjamin Van Ryseghem <benjamin.vanryseghem(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi everybody, > > > > I've rewrited a recent messages browser based on MorphTreeMorph. > > > Hi, this is very good idea! > > > If you can test it and tell me what's do you think about, it will be cool (I'm a new Smalltalker ^^) > > > welcome! > > > You can download code here : > > Gofer new > squeaksource: 'PharoTaskForces'; > package: 'RecentSubmissions'; > load. > > > To launch it, just click on the World >> Tools >> Recent Messages. > > You can set it up in the Setting Menu >> Code browsing >> Recent Message. > > > > Ok...I did it. A few remarks: > > 1) RecentMessageList >> initialize > > you do > > SmalltalkImage current addToStartUpList: self class. > > but should be SmalltalkImage addToStartUpList: self class. just Smalltalk addToStartUpList: self class. > > > (at least in Pharo 1.1) > > 2) What is the idea of the Recent Messages? To see the recent MODIFIED methods ? isn't it? If true, maybe would be good to > 2.1) directly show the diff with the previous version > 2.2) Have a button to see the versions of that method > > 3) Once you press any button, like collapse all or similar, they become blue and neve grey again > > 4) When is the list of recen messages clean ? how do you know the recen messages? you store that information somewhere? when is that cleaned? > > > Thank you very much and continue with the good work! Maybe once we can include it by defult in Pharo. yes this is the point. >

July 31, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] OMeta package for pharo?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

you can also have a look at PetitParser. Stef On Jul 29, 2010, at 3:14 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > Hmm, I've could have looked at squeaksource first :) And there it is. > > N. > > On 29.07.2010, at 14:11, Norbert Hartl wrote: > >> Is there a package of OMeta that can be installed in pharo. All I found was a .sar package somewhere. Maybe there is something newer, more adjusted? >> >> thanks, >> >> NOrbert >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-users mailing list >> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users

July 31, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] pharo development behind an ISA proxy server

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

can you open one issue for setting and another one for the creditentials? Stef On Jul 27, 2010, at 2:26 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > Hi. > > On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 2:16 PM, zekUs <zekzekus(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > I am glad to see the new release of Pharo. thanks to all people make this happen. > > > :) > > I am developing behind an ISA proxy server at work. this proxy server needs user creditentials to connect through it. in new settings browser comes with pharo 1.1 i found options about proxy host and port but no place for user creditentials. > > > Hi. It's weird...At some point there were the form to put username and password, but I have just checked and you are right. > > Can you try to evaluate something like this: > > HTTPSocket useProxyServerNamed: '10.100.1.4' port: 9090 proxyUser: 'XXX' password: 'YYY' > > You can also read this thread: > > http://forum.world.st/Problem-with-Proxy-in-1-1-tp1311756p1311756.html > > Alain any idea? > > Cheers > > Mariano > > > is there a way to access metacello repositories through a authenticated proxy server? > > thanks. > > -- > Zekeriya "zekUs" KOÃ - http://zekzekus.com/blog > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users

July 31, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] pharo development behind an ISA proxy server

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

this is strange can you check in squeak? I saw some code of andreas adding creditentials but when I checked we already got these changes. Stef On Jul 27, 2010, at 3:35 PM, zekUs wrote: > i read the thread now. > > and i tried to enter username as DOMAIN\user.name and user.name and domain\user.name but no one worked. > > i evaluated username password above from workspace but no chance. > > 2010/7/27 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> > Hi. > > On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 2:16 PM, zekUs <zekzekus(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > I am glad to see the new release of Pharo. thanks to all people make this happen. > > > :) > > I am developing behind an ISA proxy server at work. this proxy server needs user creditentials to connect through it. in new settings browser comes with pharo 1.1 i found options about proxy host and port but no place for user creditentials. > > > Hi. It's weird...At some point there were the form to put username and password, but I have just checked and you are right. > > Can you try to evaluate something like this: > > HTTPSocket useProxyServerNamed: '10.100.1.4' port: 9090 proxyUser: 'XXX' password: 'YYY' > > You can also read this thread: > > http://forum.world.st/Problem-with-Proxy-in-1-1-tp1311756p1311756.html > > Alain any idea? > > Cheers > > Mariano > > > is there a way to access metacello repositories through a authenticated proxy server? > > thanks. > > -- > Zekeriya "zekUs" KOÃ - http://zekzekus.com/blog > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > > > -- > Zekeriya "zekUs" KOÃ - http://zekzekus.com/blog > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users

July 31, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Rotating a String or Text Morph

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Hi Carla. Yes, this is a known problem. I am not sure what is the status neither if there is a fix. Read: http://forum.world.st/Problem-with-TransformationMorph-td1691811.html#a1691… http://forum.world.st/Canvas-transform-bug-when-rendering-text-td1754208.ht… http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2207 Let us know. Cheers Mariano On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 1:08 AM, Carla F. Griggio <carla.griggio(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Hi everyone! > > I'm trying to rotate a String or Text Morph. The way I'm doing this is > evaluating: > > transform:= (TransformationMorph new asFlexOf: 'hola' asStringMorph) > openInWorld . > > The string morph opens in the world and it looks OK. Now, I rotate it > doing: > > transform angle: 80. > > And it rotates OK, but a black background appears and I don't know how to > remove that, I can't find what's making that black background appear. > > Am I doing something wrong? Is there another way to rotate a string morph? > > Thank you! > > Carla > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > >

July 31, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Disabling Fractions ?

by Lukas Renggli

That's difficult to do, because the system uses them. Of course you could use machinery like Reflectivity or Helvetia to make sure they never appear in your context. Lukas On 31 July 2010 08:33, Stanislav Paskalev <kshorg(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > What is the best way to disable fractions or automatically convert > them into say floats ? > > Stanislav Paskalev > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

July 31, 2010

Disabling Fractions ?

by Stanislav Paskalev

Hi, What is the best way to disable fractions or automatically convert them into say floats ? Stanislav Paskalev

July 31, 2010

Rotating a String or Text Morph

by Carla F. Griggio

Hi everyone! I'm trying to rotate a String or Text Morph. The way I'm doing this is evaluating: transform:= (TransformationMorph new asFlexOf: 'hola' asStringMorph) openInWorld . The string morph opens in the world and it looks OK. Now, I rotate it doing: transform angle: 80. And it rotates OK, but a black background appears and I don't know how to remove that, I can't find what's making that black background appear. Am I doing something wrong? Is there another way to rotate a string morph? Thank you! Carla

July 30, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Recent Messages Browser

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 2:47 AM, Benjamin Van Ryseghem < benjamin.vanryseghem(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi everybody, > > > I've rewrited a recent messages browser based on MorphTreeMorph. > > Hi, this is very good idea! > If you can test it and tell me what's do you think about, it will be cool > (I'm a new Smalltalker ^^) > > welcome! > You can download code here : > > Gofer new > squeaksource: 'PharoTaskForces'; > package: 'RecentSubmissions'; > load. > > > To launch it, just click on the World >> Tools >> Recent Messages. > > You can set it up in the Setting Menu >> Code browsing >> Recent Message. > > > Ok...I did it. A few remarks: 1) RecentMessageList >> initialize you do SmalltalkImage current addToStartUpList: self class. but should be SmalltalkImage addToStartUpList: self class. (at least in Pharo 1.1) 2) What is the idea of the Recent Messages? To see the recent MODIFIED methods ? isn't it? If true, maybe would be good to 2.1) directly show the diff with the previous version 2.2) Have a button to see the versions of that method 3) Once you press any button, like collapse all or similar, they become blue and neve grey again 4) When is the list of recen messages clean ? how do you know the recen messages? you store that information somewhere? when is that cleaned? Thank you very much and continue with the good work! Maybe once we can include it by defult in Pharo. Cheers Mariano > > Thank you > > > > Ben > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > >

July 30, 2010

Recent Messages Browser

by Benjamin Van Ryseghem

Hi everybody, I've rewrited a recent messages browser based on MorphTreeMorph. If you can test it and tell me what's do you think about, it will be cool (I'm a new Smalltalker ^^) You can download code here : Gofer new squeaksource: 'PharoTaskForces'; package: 'RecentSubmissions'; load. To launch it, just click on the World >> Tools >> Recent Messages. You can set it up in the Setting Menu >> Code browsing >> Recent Message. Thank you Ben

July 30, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] [Survey] Assess the cycles in your software

by Laval Jannik

Hi all, Just a small reminder for people who wants to participate. Thank you for your collaboration. Cheers, Jannik On Jul 19, 2010, at 08:36 , Laval Jannik wrote: > Hi Pharoers, and Smalltalkers in general, > > Have you seen waited to assess the cycles in your software? Now you can :) > > We request some of you to perform an experiment using DSM to see your software package structure and to fix cycles between packages. Our tool shows dependencies between packages and highlight some bad dependencies generating structure cycles. It also helps to understand dependencies. > > Your goal is to fill a survey using our tool. > I prepared a mini-tutorial about DSM and eDSM. It can help you to understand the visualization tool. > > To ease the use of our tool, I loaded it in a PharoCore1.2. And there are two archives available: > - the first contains an image with our tool with a model of Pharo loaded in it, so you can play with our tool on pharo itself. It can be downloaded here: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7739334/dsmWithPharo.zip. Pay attention, the image is slow. > - the second contains the same thing without the model of Pharo. Here, you have to load your code, then populate a moose model and use the tool. It can be downloaded here: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7739334/dsmWithoutPharo.zip > The two archives contain the tutorial and the survey. If you are a pharo integrator, we suggest you to take the one with Pharo model loaded, else the other. > > To use our tool, load your tool in Pharo. Then do "MoosePanel open", and import your software in Moose by "import from Smalltalk image". When it is imported, select your project in the list on the left of MoosePanel, and select "all model packages" on the list on center. > > Then, you have two choices: > - you can scan all your project: right click on "all model packages" and do DSM. > - or select "all model packages" then select some packages in the next list and right click, do DSM. > > After that, you can perform the survey (with reading of the tutorial). We need your answers for the end of August. So, you have two months to do it. > > If you have any question, just let me know. > > Best regards, > Jannik. > > --- > Jannik Laval > PhD Student - Rmod Team - INRIA > Certified Project Management Associate (IPMA) > http://www.jannik-laval.eu > http://rmod.lille.inria.fr > --- >

July 29, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] OMeta package for pharo?

by Norbert Hartl

Hmm, I've could have looked at squeaksource first :) And there it is. N. On 29.07.2010, at 14:11, Norbert Hartl wrote: > Is there a package of OMeta that can be installed in pharo. All I found was a .sar package somewhere. Maybe there is something newer, more adjusted? > > thanks, > > NOrbert > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users

July 29, 2010

OMeta package for pharo?

by Norbert Hartl

Is there a package of OMeta that can be installed in pharo. All I found was a .sar package somewhere. Maybe there is something newer, more adjusted? thanks, NOrbert

July 29, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-project] [ANN] Pharo by Example on Amazon.com

by Marcus Denker

On Jul 28, 2010, at 6:56 PM, laurent laffont wrote: > On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Hi, > > Pharo by Example can now finally be ordered at Amazon.com: > > http://www.amazon.com/Pharo-Example-Oscar-Nierstrasz/dp/3952334146/ > > (the availability at Amazon should mean that it is orderable at any bookstore *and* orderable > for libraries world-wide). > > IMHO there should be more informations about the book on Amazon page, pictures, table of contents, bio of authors .... actually it's not very attractive.I buy most of the books on Amazon and I'm often guided by quantity and quality of informations and reviews of the books. So I think it's important. > > Is this generated automatically from Lulu or is it possible to update the page ? sadly it's automatically generated. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

July 28, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo by Example on Amazon.com

by laurent laffont

On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr>wrote: > Hi, > > Pharo by Example can now finally be ordered at Amazon.com: > > http://www.amazon.com/Pharo-Example-Oscar-Nierstrasz/dp/3952334146/ > > (the availability at Amazon should mean that it is orderable at any > bookstore *and* orderable > for libraries world-wide). > IMHO there should be more informations about the book on Amazon page, pictures, table of contents, bio of authors .... actually it's not very attractive.I buy most of the books on Amazon and I'm often guided by quantity and quality of informations and reviews of the books. So I think it's important. Is this generated automatically from Lulu or is it possible to update the page ? Anyway, the availability on Amazon is a good step forward. Cheers, Laurent > Marcus > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de > INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >

July 28, 2010

[ANN] Pharo by Example on Amazon.com

by Marcus Denker

Hi, Pharo by Example can now finally be ordered at Amazon.com: http://www.amazon.com/Pharo-Example-Oscar-Nierstrasz/dp/3952334146/ (the availability at Amazon should mean that it is orderable at any bookstore *and* orderable for libraries world-wide). Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

July 28, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo 1.1 released

by Johan Fabry

Congrats and thanks to all involved! On 26 Jul 2010, at 16:22, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm excited to announce our second release of Pharo! > > Please check out the updated website at www.pharo-project.org. > > This release contains many bug fixes, improvements, performance optimizations, and new features that didn't get into version 1.0. Specific information about what is new in this release can be found on > www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download/release-1-1. > > Thanks everyone who has contributed and helped to bring Pharo one step further! > > Please help to spread the word... > > Cheers, > Adrian > > ___________________ > http://www.adrian-lienhard.ch/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users -- Johan Fabry jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl - http://dcc.uchile.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

July 27, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] pharo development behind an ISA proxy server

by zekUs

i read the thread now. and i tried to enter username as DOMAIN\user.name and user.name and domain\ user.name but no one worked. i evaluated username password above from workspace but no chance. 2010/7/27 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> > Hi. > > On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 2:16 PM, zekUs <zekzekus(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I am glad to see the new release of Pharo. thanks to all people make this >> happen. >> >> > :) > > >> I am developing behind an ISA proxy server at work. this proxy server >> needs user creditentials to connect through it. in new settings browser >> comes with pharo 1.1 i found options about proxy host and port but no place >> for user creditentials. >> >> > Hi. It's weird...At some point there were the form to put username and > password, but I have just checked and you are right. > > Can you try to evaluate something like this: > > HTTPSocket useProxyServerNamed: '10.100.1.4' port: 9090 proxyUser: 'XXX' > password: 'YYY' > > You can also read this thread: > > http://forum.world.st/Problem-with-Proxy-in-1-1-tp1311756p1311756.html > > Alain any idea? > > Cheers > > Mariano > > > >> is there a way to access metacello repositories through a authenticated >> proxy server? >> >> thanks. >> >> -- >> Zekeriya "zekUs" KOÃ - http://zekzekus.com/blog >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-users mailing list >> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > -- Zekeriya "zekUs" KOÃ - http://zekzekus.com/blog

July 27, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] pharo development behind an ISA proxy server

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Hi. On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 2:16 PM, zekUs <zekzekus(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > I am glad to see the new release of Pharo. thanks to all people make this > happen. > > :) > I am developing behind an ISA proxy server at work. this proxy server needs > user creditentials to connect through it. in new settings browser comes with > pharo 1.1 i found options about proxy host and port but no place for user > creditentials. > > Hi. It's weird...At some point there were the form to put username and password, but I have just checked and you are right. Can you try to evaluate something like this: HTTPSocket useProxyServerNamed: '10.100.1.4' port: 9090 proxyUser: 'XXX' password: 'YYY' You can also read this thread: http://forum.world.st/Problem-with-Proxy-in-1-1-tp1311756p1311756.html Alain any idea? Cheers Mariano > is there a way to access metacello repositories through a authenticated > proxy server? > > thanks. > > -- > Zekeriya "zekUs" KOÃ - http://zekzekus.com/blog > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > >

July 27, 2010

pharo development behind an ISA proxy server

by zekUs

Hi all, I am glad to see the new release of Pharo. thanks to all people make this happen. I am developing behind an ISA proxy server at work. this proxy server needs user creditentials to connect through it. in new settings browser comes with pharo 1.1 i found options about proxy host and port but no place for user creditentials. is there a way to access metacello repositories through a authenticated proxy server? thanks. -- Zekeriya "zekUs" KOÃ - http://zekzekus.com/blog

July 27, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-project] [ANN 1.1] One-Click 1.1 release

by Mariano Martinez Peck

https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/27303/Pharo-1.1-OneClick.zip > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de > INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

July 27, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-project] [ANN] Pharo 1.1 released

by Tudor Girba

Thanks for this release! Cheers, Doru On 27 Jul 2010, at 00:04, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: > Excellent news! > > Thanks by the effort to all the people involved. > > GermÃ¡n. > > 2010/7/26 Adrian Lienhard <adi(a)netstyle.ch>: >> Hi all, >> >> I'm excited to announce our second release of Pharo! >> >> Please check out the updated website at www.pharo-project.org. >> >> This release contains many bug fixes, improvements, performance >> optimizations, and new features that didn't get into version 1.0. >> Specific information about what is new in this release can be found >> on >> www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download/release-1-1. >> >> Thanks everyone who has contributed and helped to bring Pharo one >> step further! >> >> Please help to spread the word... >> >> Cheers, >> Adrian >> >> ___________________ >> http://www.adrian-lienhard.ch/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-users mailing list >> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >> > > > > -- > ================================================= > GermÃ¡n S. Arduino <gsa @ arsol.net> Twitter: garduino > Arduino Software & Web Hosting http://www.arduinosoftware.com > PasswordsPro http://www.passwordspro.com > ================================================= > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- www.tudorgirba.com "Yesterday is a fact. Tomorrow is a possibility. Today is a challenge."

July 27, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo 1.1 released

by GermÃ¡n Arduino

Excellent news! Thanks by the effort to all the people involved. GermÃ¡n. 2010/7/26 Adrian Lienhard <adi(a)netstyle.ch>: > Hi all, > > I'm excited to announce our second release of Pharo! > > Please check out the updated website at www.pharo-project.org. > > This release contains many bug fixes, improvements, performance optimizations, and new features that didn't get into version 1.0. Specific information about what is new in this release can be found on > www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download/release-1-1. > > Thanks everyone who has contributed and helped to bring Pharo one step further! > > Please help to spread the word... > > Cheers, > Adrian > > ___________________ > http://www.adrian-lienhard.ch/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > -- ================================================= GermÃ¡n S. ArduinoÂ <gsa @ arsol.net>Â Â Twitter: garduino Arduino Software & Web HostingÂ Â http://www.arduinosoftware.com PasswordsProÂ http://www.passwordspro.com =================================================

July 26, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo 1.1 released

by Miguel Enrique CobÃ¡ MartÃnez

El lun, 26-07-2010 a las 22:22 +0200, Adrian Lienhard escribiÃ³: > Hi all, > > I'm excited to announce our second release of Pharo! > > Please check out the updated website at www.pharo-project.org. > > This release contains many bug fixes, improvements, performance optimizations, and new features that didn't get into version 1.0. Specific information about what is new in this release can be found on > www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download/release-1-1. > > Thanks everyone who has contributed and helped to bring Pharo one step further! > > Please help to spread the word... > > Cheers, > Adrian Very good news! Good job! Cheers > > ___________________ > http://www.adrian-lienhard.ch/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users -- Miguel CobÃ¡ http://miguel.leugim.com.mx

July 26, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo 1.1 released

by laurent laffont

On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 10:22 PM, Adrian Lienhard <adi(a)netstyle.ch> wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm excited to announce our second release of Pharo! > > Please check out the updated website at www.pharo-project.org. > > This release contains many bug fixes, improvements, performance > optimizations, and new features that didn't get into version 1.0. Specific > information about what is new in this release can be found on > www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download/release-1-1. > > Thanks everyone who has contributed and helped to bring Pharo one step > further! > > Please help to spread the word... > > Cheers, > Adrian > What a good day ! Thank you all ! Laurent > > ___________________ > http://www.adrian-lienhard.ch/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >

July 26, 2010

[ANN] Pharo 1.1 released

by Adrian Lienhard

Hi all, I'm excited to announce our second release of Pharo! Please check out the updated website at www.pharo-project.org. This release contains many bug fixes, improvements, performance optimizations, and new features that didn't get into version 1.0. Specific information about what is new in this release can be found on www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download/release-1-1. Thanks everyone who has contributed and helped to bring Pharo one step further! Please help to spread the word... Cheers, Adrian ___________________ http://www.adrian-lienhard.ch/

July 26, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Escape strings for compiler

by Norbert Hartl

On 26.07.2010, at 11:00, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On Jul 26, 2010, at 10:56 AM, Marcus Denker wrote: > >> >> On Jul 26, 2010, at 10:38 AM, Norbert Hartl wrote: >> >>> >>> On 26.07.2010, at 10:27, Marcus Denker wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On Jul 26, 2010, at 10:09 AM, Norbert Hartl wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I tried to compile a method that returns a string. Is there a method to escape a string in a way that the compiler treats it as a string and not as code? >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> If you want to return something that again can be evaluated as a string, you can use double quotes inside: >>>> >>>> Compiler evaluate: ' '' evaluate me, I am a String '' ' >>>> >>> I want to compile a method >>> >>> myString >>> ^ 'arbitrary string' >>> >>> So the problem is more of how would you do what you suggested having the string: evaluate me, I'm a String ? >> >> If you alreadu have a string and you want to print it in a way that they compiler can evaluate it back, you can just >> use #printString on the string. >> > #storeString is even better... as it does not shorten very long strings ;-) > Well... yes! :) It was indeed a longer xml document that I wanted to store thanks, works good, Norbert

July 26, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Escape strings for compiler

by Marcus Denker

On Jul 26, 2010, at 10:56 AM, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On Jul 26, 2010, at 10:38 AM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > >> >> On 26.07.2010, at 10:27, Marcus Denker wrote: >> >>> >>> On Jul 26, 2010, at 10:09 AM, Norbert Hartl wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I tried to compile a method that returns a string. Is there a method to escape a string in a way that the compiler treats it as a string and not as code? >>>> >>> >>> >>> If you want to return something that again can be evaluated as a string, you can use double quotes inside: >>> >>> Compiler evaluate: ' '' evaluate me, I am a String '' ' >>> >> I want to compile a method >> >> myString >> ^ 'arbitrary string' >> >> So the problem is more of how would you do what you suggested having the string: evaluate me, I'm a String ? > > If you alreadu have a string and you want to print it in a way that they compiler can evaluate it back, you can just > use #printString on the string. > #storeString is even better... as it does not shorten very long strings ;-) -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

July 26, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Escape strings for compiler

by Marcus Denker

On Jul 26, 2010, at 10:38 AM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > > On 26.07.2010, at 10:27, Marcus Denker wrote: > >> >> On Jul 26, 2010, at 10:09 AM, Norbert Hartl wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I tried to compile a method that returns a string. Is there a method to escape a string in a way that the compiler treats it as a string and not as code? >>> >> >> >> If you want to return something that again can be evaluated as a string, you can use double quotes inside: >> >> Compiler evaluate: ' '' evaluate me, I am a String '' ' >> > I want to compile a method > > myString > ^ 'arbitrary string' > > So the problem is more of how would you do what you suggested having the string: evaluate me, I'm a String ? If you alreadu have a string and you want to print it in a way that they compiler can evaluate it back, you can just use #printString on the string. printString calls storeOn:, which doubles any contained quotes and puts quotes around. This is called when doing a "print it", too. So one gets a bit confusted when doing a "print it" of 'hello' printString... it's called twice :-) Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

July 26, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Escape strings for compiler

by Norbert Hartl

On 26.07.2010, at 10:27, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On Jul 26, 2010, at 10:09 AM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I tried to compile a method that returns a string. Is there a method to escape a string in a way that the compiler treats it as a string and not as code? >> > > > If you want to return something that again can be evaluated as a string, you can use double quotes inside: > > Compiler evaluate: ' '' evaluate me, I am a String '' ' > I want to compile a method myString ^ 'arbitrary string' So the problem is more of how would you do what you suggested having the string: evaluate me, I'm a String ? Norbert

July 26, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Escape strings for compiler

by Marcus Denker

On Jul 26, 2010, at 10:09 AM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > Hi, > > I tried to compile a method that returns a string. Is there a method to escape a string in a way that the compiler treats it as a string and not as code? > If you want to return something that again can be evaluated as a string, you can use double quotes inside: Compiler evaluate: ' '' evaluate me, I am a String '' ' -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

July 26, 2010

Escape strings for compiler

by Norbert Hartl

Hi, I tried to compile a method that returns a string. Is there a method to escape a string in a way that the compiler treats it as a string and not as code? thanks, Norbert

July 26, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Couple of newbie questions

by Marcus Denker

On Jul 24, 2010, at 2:29 PM, Thomas Worthington wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Two questions: > > 1) How do I get my Pharo 1.0 to "upgrade" to the 1.1 image? I would not try... in theory it would work with a core image, but loading 411 updates is far too slow. The idea is that one loads the code in a new image. People learned over the years that this is good to do anyway, as this tests that you actually *can* load your code. e.g. you don't realy on objects in the image that you created years ago but that you lost the setup code for. This is important even independend of updating from 1.0 to 1.1 > 2) How do I make a "one-click" image that will start my app when clicked? > You can just exchange the image file in the directory Contents/Resources On the mac, you need to use "show package contents" to open the browser on the .app directory. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

July 25, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Couple of newbie questions

by Miguel Enrique CobÃ¡ MartÃnez

El sÃ¡b, 24-07-2010 a las 20:09 +0200, Mariano Martinez Peck escribiÃ³: Maybe this question should go to the faq on the page or section on the book. > > > On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Thomas Worthington > <thomas(a)2worthingtons.net> wrote: > Hi everyone, > > > Hi and welcome! > > Two questions: > > 1) How do I get my Pharo 1.0 to "upgrade" to the 1.1 image? > > > The system update is disabled in purpose. The Pharo image cannot be > updated anymore. Only PharoCore images can be updated. So..what you > have to do is to just download a Pharo 1.1 image :) > > If you are curious why updates were disable, read: > http://forum.world.st/update-1-1-11371-tp2229126p2231195.html > > Just FYI the latest 1.1 release is here: > https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/27254/Pharo-1.1-11409-rc4dev10.07.… > > as you can see in http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download > > 2) How do I make a "one-click" image that will start my app > when clicked? > > > Very easy. Two options: > > - Take your new image (both .image and .changes), put exactly the same > file names, and override the original files that can be found > in /Contents/Resources . I think they are named Pharo-1.0.image and > Pharo-1.0.changes > > - This option is the proper one. It depends on the OS you are using. > If you are in Linux, just edit the Pharo.sh file so that it points to > your new image (where it says "$RES/Pharo-1.0.image"). If you are in > Windows, edit the Pharo.ini file where it says "ImageFile=Contents > \Resources\Pharo-1.0.image". > > Sorry if these are FAQs, but I couldn't find answers via > Google. > > > We should add it to FAQ or book. > > Where you aware of http://book.pharo-project.org/ and > http://pharobyexample.org/ ? > > Cheers > > Mariano > > TW > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users -- Miguel CobÃ¡ http://miguel.leugim.com.mx

July 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Couple of newbie questions

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Thomas Worthington < thomas(a)2worthingtons.net> wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Hi and welcome! > Two questions: > > 1) How do I get my Pharo 1.0 to "upgrade" to the 1.1 image? > The system update is disabled in purpose. The Pharo image cannot be updated anymore. Only PharoCore images can be updated. So..what you have to do is to just download a Pharo 1.1 image :) If you are curious why updates were disable, read: http://forum.world.st/ update-1-1-11371-tp2229126p2231195.html Just FYI the latest 1.1 release is here: https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/27254/Pharo-1.1-11409-rc4dev10.07.… as you can see in http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download > 2) How do I make a "one-click" image that will start my app when clicked? > > Very easy. Two options: - Take your new image (both .image and .changes), put exactly the same file names, and override the original files that can be found in /Contents/Resources . I think they are named Pharo-1.0.image and Pharo-1.0.changes - This option is the proper one. It depends on the OS you are using. If you are in Linux, just edit the Pharo.sh file so that it points to your new image (where it says "$RES/Pharo-1.0.image"). If you are in Windows, edit the Pharo.ini file where it says "ImageFile=Contents\Resources\Pharo-1.0.image". > Sorry if these are FAQs, but I couldn't find answers via Google. > > We should add it to FAQ or book. Where you aware of http://book.pharo-project.org/ and http://pharobyexample.org/ ? Cheers Mariano > TW > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >

July 24, 2010

Couple of newbie questions

by Thomas Worthington

Hi everyone, Two questions: 1) How do I get my Pharo 1.0 to "upgrade" to the 1.1 image? 2) How do I make a "one-click" image that will start my app when clicked? Sorry if these are FAQs, but I couldn't find answers via Google. TW

July 24, 2010

Pharocasts: Monticello and Metacello introduction

by laurent laffont

Here you will learn how to: - create a SqueakSource repository - create packages and upload them to SqueakSource - create a Metacello configuration to manage dependencies between packages - load packages using Metacello ConfigurationOfXXX and Gofer http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/2010/07/monticello-and-metacello-introductio… Laurent

July 20, 2010