June 2010 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

[ANN 1.2] 1.2 12023 Unstable available

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/27220/PharoCore-1.2-12023-UNSTABLE… Stef

June 30, 2010

Fwd: [Pharo-project] [ANN 1.1] pre-built RC3 Core

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Begin forwarded message: > From: Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> > Date: June 30, 2010 9:37:47 AM GMT+02:00 > To: "Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Development" <Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> > Subject: [Pharo-project] [ANN 1.1] pre-built RC3 Core > Reply-To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > > > https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/27218/PharoCore-1.1-11406-rc3.zip > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de > INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 30, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-project] Pharocasts can speak !

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

cool! Thanks this screencasts are really important! Stef On Jun 25, 2010, at 10:46 PM, laurent laffont wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks to Christoph Budzinski, the "How to contribute to Pharo" screencast has now a voice. http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/2010/03/how-to-contribute-to-pharo.html > > Feedback welcome. > > Cheers, > > Laurent Laffont > > http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/ > http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 25, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] OSProcess on Windows

by Mariano Martinez Peck

I cc'ed David T. Lewis that may help you. Cheers mariano On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 9:35 PM, Bob Cowdery <bob(a)bobcowdery.plus.com>wrote: > Hi Carlos > > Well, I think frustration is starting to creep in now. Everything I > touch seems to croak in some way. I loaded ProcessWrapper as it seems to > be the more recommended way on Windows. Still didn't get a plugin with > it. Noted that 'ProcessWrapper downloadPlugin' is supposed to do that. > That didn't work as it falls over on 'Utilities informUserDuring: '. > Even when I took that out of the source it still fell over. Downloaded > the plugin source and tried to build it but its missing libraries and I > don't know which ones. Also it has a header file which can't be > generated so I made one up but probably got it wrong. > > Oh, well, guess I will press on a bit longer. > > Bob > > Carlos Crosetti wrote: > > Hi, I am interesred also in what you are trying to use, but had loaded > > ProcessWrappper and executed Excell passing a spreadsheet file as > > argument and got the inside VBScript running fine, but the Excel > > terminates too early because I could fid the way to control how the > > parent process may wait for the child to terminate. > > > > On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Bob Cowdery <bob(a)bobcowdery.plus.com > > <mailto:bob@bobcowdery.plus.com>> wrote: > > > > Does anyone use OSProcess on Windows? If so can you tell me how to > > make > > it work please. > > > > OSProcess thisOSProcess command: 'cmd.exe /C notepad' > > > > Fails in two ways. It tries to output a message to stderr but fails > to > > do so. The message it tries to output just says: > > "nextPutAll: 'cannot execute cmd.exe /C notepad'". > > > > I also tried to open a console with: > > OSProcess thisOSProcess openConsole > > > > but that seems to do nothing and gives no errors. > > > > Any help very welcome. > > > > Regards > > Bob > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-users mailing list > > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > <mailto:Pharo-users@lists.gforge.inria.fr> > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-users mailing list > > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >

June 25, 2010

Pharocasts can speak !

by laurent laffont

Hi, Thanks to Christoph Budzinski, the "How to contribute to Pharo" screencast has now a voice. http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/2010/03/how-to-contribute-to-pharo.html Feedback welcome. Cheers, Laurent Laffont http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/ http://magaloma.blogspot.com/

June 25, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] OSProcess on Windows

by Bob Cowdery

Hi Carlos Well, I think frustration is starting to creep in now. Everything I touch seems to croak in some way. I loaded ProcessWrapper as it seems to be the more recommended way on Windows. Still didn't get a plugin with it. Noted that 'ProcessWrapper downloadPlugin' is supposed to do that. That didn't work as it falls over on 'Utilities informUserDuring: '. Even when I took that out of the source it still fell over. Downloaded the plugin source and tried to build it but its missing libraries and I don't know which ones. Also it has a header file which can't be generated so I made one up but probably got it wrong. Oh, well, guess I will press on a bit longer. Bob Carlos Crosetti wrote: > Hi, I am interesred also in what you are trying to use, but had loaded > ProcessWrappper and executed Excell passing a spreadsheet file as > argument and got the inside VBScript running fine, but the Excel > terminates too early because I could fid the way to control how the > parent process may wait for the child to terminate. > > On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Bob Cowdery <bob(a)bobcowdery.plus.com > <mailto:bob@bobcowdery.plus.com>> wrote: > > Does anyone use OSProcess on Windows? If so can you tell me how to > make > it work please. > > OSProcess thisOSProcess command: 'cmd.exe /C notepad' > > Fails in two ways. It tries to output a message to stderr but fails to > do so. The message it tries to output just says: > "nextPutAll: 'cannot execute cmd.exe /C notepad'". > > I also tried to open a console with: > OSProcess thisOSProcess openConsole > > but that seems to do nothing and gives no errors. > > Any help very welcome. > > Regards > Bob > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > <mailto:Pharo-users@lists.gforge.inria.fr> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >

June 25, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] OSProcess on Windows

by Carlos Crosetti

Hi, I am interesred also in what you are trying to use, but had loaded ProcessWrappper and executed Excell passing a spreadsheet file as argument and got the inside VBScript running fine, but the Excel terminates too early because I could fid the way to control how the parent process may wait for the child to terminate. On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Bob Cowdery <bob(a)bobcowdery.plus.com>wrote: > Does anyone use OSProcess on Windows? If so can you tell me how to make > it work please. > > OSProcess thisOSProcess command: 'cmd.exe /C notepad' > > Fails in two ways. It tries to output a message to stderr but fails to > do so. The message it tries to output just says: > "nextPutAll: 'cannot execute cmd.exe /C notepad'". > > I also tried to open a console with: > OSProcess thisOSProcess openConsole > > but that seems to do nothing and gives no errors. > > Any help very welcome. > > Regards > Bob > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >

June 25, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] OSProcess on Windows

by Denis Kudriashov

Recently I try OSProcess and dont found built win plugin for it. And I try ProcessWrapper instead OSProcess. Its work good for me. Search squeaksource 2010/6/25 Bob Cowdery <bob(a)bobcowdery.plus.com> > Does anyone use OSProcess on Windows? If so can you tell me how to make > it work please. > > OSProcess thisOSProcess command: 'cmd.exe /C notepad' > > Fails in two ways. It tries to output a message to stderr but fails to > do so. The message it tries to output just says: > "nextPutAll: 'cannot execute cmd.exe /C notepad'". > > I also tried to open a console with: > OSProcess thisOSProcess openConsole > > but that seems to do nothing and gives no errors. > > Any help very welcome. > > Regards > Bob > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >

June 25, 2010

OSProcess on Windows

by Bob Cowdery

Does anyone use OSProcess on Windows? If so can you tell me how to make it work please. OSProcess thisOSProcess command: 'cmd.exe /C notepad' Fails in two ways. It tries to output a message to stderr but fails to do so. The message it tries to output just says: "nextPutAll: 'cannot execute cmd.exe /C notepad'". I also tried to open a console with: OSProcess thisOSProcess openConsole but that seems to do nothing and gives no errors. Any help very welcome. Regards Bob

June 25, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] VM/Settings for Deploy

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

Laurent, Mariano, Thanks for the reply. I read the various threads you both pointed to. This is not a good situation. A good VM (stable and performant) is absolutely critical to Smalltalk/Squeak/Pharo's success. A 30% speed difference due to some secret compiler settings is very scary for what is essentially an open source project, although I also understand that some people want to get some money back for their efforts. I can't imagine that recompiling the Linux kernel, Apache or PostgreSQL with some secret compiler settings or even another compiler would make so much difference versus the open way (although some minor speedup by tuning compilation to specific hardware is to be expected). I think (and Stef suggested as much since he mentioned buying the Intel C compiler) Pharo needs to deal with this to fullfill its mission of offering a free and open source attractive platform to build and deploy mission critical Smalltalk applications. On the other hand, I wouldn't mind paying a reasonable license/support fee if that would benefit the community as a whole at the same time. Sven On 24 Jun 2010, at 10:47, laurent laffont wrote: > On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)beta9.be> wrote: > Hi, > > I am very happy that I managed to create a very small deploy image based on Pharo-1.1-11400-rc2. This image contains all of Seaside and Glorp/PostgreSQL and is still only about 12Mb. All this thanks to ScriptLoader's #cleanUpForProduction. > > Thanks a lot to all who made this possible. > > I noticed however that this image is handling my HTTP/Seaside benchmark consistenly faster on my Mac, about 80 to 85 req/s (Mac OS X 10.6.4, 2.4 Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo with 4GB RAM) than on my server (RHEL 4 (update 7), 2 Ghz AMD Opteron 175 Dual Core with 4GB RAM), about 55 to 65 req/s. > > On my Mac I use the Squeak 4.2.4beta1U VM, on my server the Squeak-4.0.3.2202 Unix VM. > > Next I tried the Squeak-4.0.3.2202 VM on my Mac. This resulted in about 60 to 70 req/s. > > Is it normal that the Unix VM is slower than the Mac VM ? > > > Hi, > > I've struggled on this and finally give up. > > It seems Linux VM can be better than MacOSX one: > - http://forum.world.st/Squeak-VM-FT2Plugin-all-Pharo-1-0-rc3-tests-green-tp1… > - http://forum.world.st/Squeak-VM-FT2Plugin-all-Pharo-1-0-rc3-tests-green-tp1… > > But how is a secret: http://forum.world.st/Squeak-VM-FT2Plugin-all-Pharo-1-0-rc3-tests-green-tp1… > > I will help if you work on building the VM for Linux. > > Cheers, > > Laurent Laffont > > http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/ > http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ > > > > > For what I have been experimenting, and with the default configuration, yes. > I mean, if you go to the website, download both VMs, and run, I think that yes. Maybe compiling Linux vms with particular flags in the configure, you may have better results. > > I said this in another thread I people said I was talking bullship, so, I won't talk any more. > > I let you two links in case you are interested to read: > > http://forum.world.st/Pharo-apparently-slow-on-linux-td1304643.html#a1304643 > > http://forum.world.st/Squeak-VM-FT2Plugin-all-Pharo-1-0-rc3-tests-green-tp1… > > > Shouldn't a Linux server box be faster at networking/IO/CPU than a MacBook Pro running the full Mac OS X GUI ? > > > not necessary. Because you depends on the VM I think. > > > > Is there anything simple (low hanging fruit kind of stuff) that I can do to improve performance, either using command line options to the VM or using settings at the image level ? > > > yes. First the flags when compiling the VM. Check the version of GCC. > Then you can check all the parameters of the GC and etc...but I have no idea how to tune this. > > > I currently run the VM with: > > Squeak-4.0.3.2202-linux_i386/bin/squeak -vm-display-null -vm-sound-null deploy.image > > What are others using in the Seaside deploy area ? > > Thanks, > > Sven > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users

June 25, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Finding packages

by Bob Cowdery

Adrian Thanks, that was easy. Works from Monticello. Strange it doesn't work using the .sar file from that link. Bob Adrien BARREAU wrote: > I just load OSProcess from Monticello and it does not display any error. > > MCHttpRepository > location: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/OSProcess' > user: '' > password: '' > > This is this repository. > > Adrien. > > > > > Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 09:45:43 +0100 > > From: bob(a)bobcowdery.plus.com > > To: pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Finding packages > > > > Hi Adrian > > > > Not having much luck really. I've tried two versions of OsProcess, one I > > found from a previous Pharo message and the other from your link. Both > > fail to load with Syntax errors and leave all the categories installed > > but no code. This is the error which was in UnixProcess (a bit odd > > seeing as I'm on Windows). I also loaded the OsProcessPlugin but that > > appears to require compiling according to the readme. This all seems to > > be much harder than it should be, or maybe it's just me. > > > > Regards > > Bob > > > > argsAsFlatArrayAndOffsets: anArrayOfNullTerminatedStrings > > "Given anArrayOfNullTerminatedStrings, flatten the array into a > > string buffer, > > leaving space at the beginning of the buffer for a list of C > > pointers. Answer > > the string buffer and an array of address offsets. The address > > offsets may later > > be converted to C pointers and overlaid on the beginning of the > > buffer, resulting > > in a data structure which can be treated as a C array of strings > > suitable for > > use as a Unix argv vector." > > > > "OSProcess thisOSProcess argsAsFlatArrayAndOffsets: > > (UnixProcess arguments collect: > > [:e | e, (Character value: 0) asString])" > > > > | offset arraySize flatStringArray ws addresses | > > "Preserve offset space to hold address pointers." > > offset := (anArrayOfNullTerminatedStrings size + 1) * self > > processAccessor sizeOfPointer. > > "Allocate flat strings buffer" > > arraySize := (anArrayOfNullTerminatedStrings collect: [:e | e size]) sum > > + ((anArrayOfNullTerminatedStrings size + 1) * self > > processAccessor sizeOfPointer). > > "Flatten the strings out into a buffer, leaving room at the > > beginning of the buffer for an array of addresses." > > flatStringArray := String new: arraySize. > > ws := WriteStream on: flatStringArray. > > offset timesRepeat: [ws nextPut: (Character value: 0)]. > > anArrayOfNullTerminatedStrings do: [:e | ws nextPutAll: e]. > > "Find address offsets to be used in creating the addresses for the > > strings." > > ws := WriteStream on: (Array new: anArrayOfNullTerminatedStrings size). > > (anArrayOfNullTerminatedStrings collect: [:e | e size]) > > inject: offset into: [:p :e | ws nextPut: p. Cannot store into > > ->p := p + e]. > > addresses := ws contents. > > "Results" > > ^ Array with: flatStringArray with: addresses > > > > > > Adrien BARREAU wrote: > > > The first thing I do (don't know if it's the best idea) when I am > > > searching for a package is to take a loot at www.squeaksource.com and > > > search the project in the "projects" tab. > > > But, it seems to be down for the moment. > > > > > > Adrien. > > > > > > For OSProcess, i suggest you read that: > > > http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/708 :) > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 18:16:34 +0100 > > > > From: bob(a)bobcowdery.plus.com > > > > To: pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > > > Subject: [Pharo-users] Finding packages > > > > > > > > Sorry if this is a bit of a basic question. Could someone > enlighten me > > > > on how to install packages please. I want to be able to run command > > > > files under windows from within Pharo. It looks like I need > OsProcess or > > > > maybe CommandShell. I assume these should be installable from > > > > Monticello. I don't see any search facility in the Monticello > Browser > > > > and tried a few repositories but failed to find what I needed. > What's > > > > the best way to find packages. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Bob > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Pharo-users mailing list > > > > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Vous voulez protÃ©ger votre numÃ©ro de CB ? 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June 25, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Finding packages

by Adrien BARREAU

I just load OSProcess from Monticello and it does not display any error. MCHttpRepository location: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/OSProcess' user: '' password: '' This is this repository. Adrien. > Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 09:45:43 +0100 > From: bob(a)bobcowdery.plus.com > To: pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Finding packages > > Hi Adrian > > Not having much luck really. I've tried two versions of OsProcess, one I > found from a previous Pharo message and the other from your link. Both > fail to load with Syntax errors and leave all the categories installed > but no code. This is the error which was in UnixProcess (a bit odd > seeing as I'm on Windows). I also loaded the OsProcessPlugin but that > appears to require compiling according to the readme. This all seems to > be much harder than it should be, or maybe it's just me. > > Regards > Bob > > argsAsFlatArrayAndOffsets: anArrayOfNullTerminatedStrings > "Given anArrayOfNullTerminatedStrings, flatten the array into a > string buffer, > leaving space at the beginning of the buffer for a list of C > pointers. Answer > the string buffer and an array of address offsets. The address > offsets may later > be converted to C pointers and overlaid on the beginning of the > buffer, resulting > in a data structure which can be treated as a C array of strings > suitable for > use as a Unix argv vector." > > "OSProcess thisOSProcess argsAsFlatArrayAndOffsets: > (UnixProcess arguments collect: > [:e | e, (Character value: 0) asString])" > > | offset arraySize flatStringArray ws addresses | > "Preserve offset space to hold address pointers." > offset := (anArrayOfNullTerminatedStrings size + 1) * self > processAccessor sizeOfPointer. > "Allocate flat strings buffer" > arraySize := (anArrayOfNullTerminatedStrings collect: [:e | e size]) sum > + ((anArrayOfNullTerminatedStrings size + 1) * self > processAccessor sizeOfPointer). > "Flatten the strings out into a buffer, leaving room at the > beginning of the buffer for an array of addresses." > flatStringArray := String new: arraySize. > ws := WriteStream on: flatStringArray. > offset timesRepeat: [ws nextPut: (Character value: 0)]. > anArrayOfNullTerminatedStrings do: [:e | ws nextPutAll: e]. > "Find address offsets to be used in creating the addresses for the > strings." > ws := WriteStream on: (Array new: anArrayOfNullTerminatedStrings size). > (anArrayOfNullTerminatedStrings collect: [:e | e size]) > inject: offset into: [:p :e | ws nextPut: p. Cannot store into > ->p := p + e]. > addresses := ws contents. > "Results" > ^ Array with: flatStringArray with: addresses > > > Adrien BARREAU wrote: > > The first thing I do (don't know if it's the best idea) when I am > > searching for a package is to take a loot at www.squeaksource.com and > > search the project in the "projects" tab. > > But, it seems to be down for the moment. > > > > Adrien. > > > > For OSProcess, i suggest you read that: > > http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/708 :) > > > > > Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 18:16:34 +0100 > > > From: bob(a)bobcowdery.plus.com > > > To: pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > > Subject: [Pharo-users] Finding packages > > > > > > Sorry if this is a bit of a basic question. Could someone enlighten me > > > on how to install packages please. I want to be able to run command > > > files under windows from within Pharo. It looks like I need OsProcess or > > > maybe CommandShell. I assume these should be installable from > > > Monticello. I don't see any search facility in the Monticello Browser > > > and tried a few repositories but failed to find what I needed. What's > > > the best way to find packages. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Bob > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Pharo-users mailing list > > > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Vous voulez protÃ©ger votre numÃ©ro de CB ? Utilisez Internet Explorer 8 > > <http://clk.atdmt.com/FRM/go/232102479/direct/01/> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-users mailing list > > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users _________________________________________________________________ Vous voulez regarder la TV directement depuis votre PC ? C'est trÃ¨s simple avec Windows 7 http://clk.atdmt.com/FRM/go/229960614/direct/01/

June 25, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Finding packages

by Bob Cowdery

Hi Adrian Not having much luck really. I've tried two versions of OsProcess, one I found from a previous Pharo message and the other from your link. Both fail to load with Syntax errors and leave all the categories installed but no code. This is the error which was in UnixProcess (a bit odd seeing as I'm on Windows). I also loaded the OsProcessPlugin but that appears to require compiling according to the readme. This all seems to be much harder than it should be, or maybe it's just me. Regards Bob argsAsFlatArrayAndOffsets: anArrayOfNullTerminatedStrings "Given anArrayOfNullTerminatedStrings, flatten the array into a string buffer, leaving space at the beginning of the buffer for a list of C pointers. Answer the string buffer and an array of address offsets. The address offsets may later be converted to C pointers and overlaid on the beginning of the buffer, resulting in a data structure which can be treated as a C array of strings suitable for use as a Unix argv vector." "OSProcess thisOSProcess argsAsFlatArrayAndOffsets: (UnixProcess arguments collect: [:e | e, (Character value: 0) asString])" | offset arraySize flatStringArray ws addresses | "Preserve offset space to hold address pointers." offset := (anArrayOfNullTerminatedStrings size + 1) * self processAccessor sizeOfPointer. "Allocate flat strings buffer" arraySize := (anArrayOfNullTerminatedStrings collect: [:e | e size]) sum + ((anArrayOfNullTerminatedStrings size + 1) * self processAccessor sizeOfPointer). "Flatten the strings out into a buffer, leaving room at the beginning of the buffer for an array of addresses." flatStringArray := String new: arraySize. ws := WriteStream on: flatStringArray. offset timesRepeat: [ws nextPut: (Character value: 0)]. anArrayOfNullTerminatedStrings do: [:e | ws nextPutAll: e]. "Find address offsets to be used in creating the addresses for the strings." ws := WriteStream on: (Array new: anArrayOfNullTerminatedStrings size). (anArrayOfNullTerminatedStrings collect: [:e | e size]) inject: offset into: [:p :e | ws nextPut: p. Cannot store into ->p := p + e]. addresses := ws contents. "Results" ^ Array with: flatStringArray with: addresses Adrien BARREAU wrote: > The first thing I do (don't know if it's the best idea) when I am > searching for a package is to take a loot at www.squeaksource.com and > search the project in the "projects" tab. > But, it seems to be down for the moment. > > Adrien. > > For OSProcess, i suggest you read that: > http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/708 :) > > > Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 18:16:34 +0100 > > From: bob(a)bobcowdery.plus.com > > To: pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > Subject: [Pharo-users] Finding packages > > > > Sorry if this is a bit of a basic question. Could someone enlighten me > > on how to install packages please. I want to be able to run command > > files under windows from within Pharo. It looks like I need OsProcess or > > maybe CommandShell. I assume these should be installable from > > Monticello. I don't see any search facility in the Monticello Browser > > and tried a few repositories but failed to find what I needed. What's > > the best way to find packages. > > > > Thanks > > Bob > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-users mailing list > > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Vous voulez protÃ©ger votre numÃ©ro de CB ? Utilisez Internet Explorer 8 > <http://clk.atdmt.com/FRM/go/232102479/direct/01/> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >

June 25, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Finding packages

by Adrien BARREAU

The first thing I do (don't know if it's the best idea) when I am searching for a package is to take a loot at www.squeaksource.com and search the project in the "projects" tab. But, it seems to be down for the moment. Adrien. For OSProcess, i suggest you read that: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/708 :) > Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 18:16:34 +0100 > From: bob(a)bobcowdery.plus.com > To: pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > Subject: [Pharo-users] Finding packages > > Sorry if this is a bit of a basic question. Could someone enlighten me > on how to install packages please. I want to be able to run command > files under windows from within Pharo. It looks like I need OsProcess or > maybe CommandShell. I assume these should be installable from > Monticello. I don't see any search facility in the Monticello Browser > and tried a few repositories but failed to find what I needed. What's > the best way to find packages. > > Thanks > Bob > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail : Simple et Efficace qui vous facilite la vieâ¦ DÃ©couvrez la NOW gÃ©nÃ©ration ! http://www.windowslive.fr/hotmail/nowgeneration/

June 25, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Changing Fonts in Pharo

by tgc05

@Stef. Thanks for the link to the book. This is something I had not come across previously. I had seen the Google Code Pharo site but I'm still a little overwhelmed by all the information that is out there in various places. It's taking me a while to get familiar with it all and where to look for stuff. I'll get there eventually :) --Thomas. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Changing-Fonts-in-Pharo-tp2267560p2267705.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

June 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Changing Fonts in Pharo

by tgc05

@Nico. Thanks, that was what I needed. System Fonts > Code Font. Already set to DejaVu Sans Mono... I just increased the size to 12pts. I'm never satisfied... how about the font colour and background colour? Is there a setting for these or a tweek I can make via some nifty Smaltalk code? --Thomas. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Changing-Fonts-in-Pharo-tp2267560p2267701.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

June 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Changing Fonts in Pharo

by NicolÃ¡s Paez

Hi Thomas, just go to: World -> System -> Preferences -> System fonts, there you will be able to set your favourite fonts. Other option that I use when I share code with my students is: open a Workspace and execute: *Preferences setDemoFonts*. and choose the size you desire. Regards, Nico. blog: nicopaez.wordpress.com On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 4:57 PM, tgc05 <thomas(a)costick.net> wrote: > > I'm new to Pharo and am working through the PBE book. > > I would like to change the fonts (and their size) used in the OmniBrowser > and generally throughout Pharo. > > In particular, the font in the text input panes. I'd like to be able to > use > DejaVu Sans Mono, if available. Failing that, the default font is OK, if > it > could just be larger. (or is there a zoom feature?) > > Can someone tell me how I can customize these settings? > > Thanks. > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Changing-Fonts-in-Pharo-tp2267560p2267560.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >

June 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Changing Fonts in Pharo

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

have a look at the book.pharo-project.org or on http://code.google.com/p/pharo/ in the wiki On Jun 24, 2010, at 9:57 PM, tgc05 wrote: > > I'm new to Pharo and am working through the PBE book. > > I would like to change the fonts (and their size) used in the OmniBrowser > and generally throughout Pharo. > > In particular, the font in the text input panes. I'd like to be able to use > DejaVu Sans Mono, if available. Failing that, the default font is OK, if it > could just be larger. (or is there a zoom feature?) > > Can someone tell me how I can customize these settings? > > Thanks. > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Changing-Fonts-in-Pharo-tp2267560p2267560.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users

June 24, 2010

Changing Fonts in Pharo

by tgc05

I'm new to Pharo and am working through the PBE book. I would like to change the fonts (and their size) used in the OmniBrowser and generally throughout Pharo. In particular, the font in the text input panes. I'd like to be able to use DejaVu Sans Mono, if available. Failing that, the default font is OK, if it could just be larger. (or is there a zoom feature?) Can someone tell me how I can customize these settings? Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Changing-Fonts-in-Pharo-tp2267560p2267560.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

June 24, 2010

Finding packages

by Bob Cowdery

Sorry if this is a bit of a basic question. Could someone enlighten me on how to install packages please. I want to be able to run command files under windows from within Pharo. It looks like I need OsProcess or maybe CommandShell. I assume these should be installable from Monticello. I don't see any search facility in the Monticello Browser and tried a few repositories but failed to find what I needed. What's the best way to find packages. Thanks Bob

June 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Error:invalid utf8 input detected.

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 12:46 PM, tgc05 <thomas(a)costick.net> wrote: > > Hi Mariano. Thanks for this. I'm new to Pharo and have been away from > Smalltalk for several years (way too long), so right now I am not ready to > start debugging the code; perhaps I will return to this when I have > recovered my "Smalltalk legs" :) I had hoped someone more in touch with > the Pharo project would be able to fix this. > > Don't worry. I lack of time :( (and probably of knoweldege too) > Meanwhile, the point I want to emphasise is that this error shows up for > anyone working through the Pharo By Example book. Right from the start, > the > book advises the reader to use a different image file from the quick start > one provided with Pharo. Doing this, the reader will immediately run into > the "Error:invalid utf8 input detected." problem. > > This could be enough to put some people off the idea of learning Smalltalk, > which I am sure we all want to avoid. Even if they persevere, the > impression this gives if that either Pharo is a bit flakey or the PBE book > is at fault, or the PBE.image file is bad. Or all of these! > > As an aside, I would very much like to be able to contribute errata notices > and suggestions for improved wording for the PBE book. I have ordered the > hard-copy from Lulu.com and will markup any errors and clarifications as I > progress through the book. Does anyone know if I can log errata etc online > somewhere? > yes: "sbe(a)iam.unibe.ch Example" <sbe(a)iam.unibe.ch>, I have cc'ed them. https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/sbe-discussion you can find this in http://pharobyexample.org/ on the right where it says "Resources" and then "Discussion list" cheers mariano > > --Thomas. > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Error-invalid-utf8-input-detected-tp2068483p2266740.h… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >

June 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Error:invalid utf8 input detected.

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 1:08 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > wrote: > Mariano can you open a ticket with this problem? > It is already open: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2374 > > On Jun 24, 2010, at 10:07 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 8:17 PM, tgc05 <thomas(a)costick.net> wrote: > > Hi Stef. I would have thought the VM initialize processing could be > changed to avoid this problem, but I don't know the details :) > > > > > > Hi Thomas. I cope paste here what I said before: > > > > "More in details, the problem is that when you pass an image, it is > interpreted as "SmalltalkImage current getSystemAttribute: 1" > > When you drag a second file (in your case a second image) it is > interpreted as source file, not image, and thus the error with the encoding. > > Put a breakpoint in the method startUpAfterLogin if you want to > experiment a bit. > > > > At least with this, you know why it was the problem and how to avoid it. > Maybe we should raise a better error or even better, if I have already > defined an image in the ini file, but I drag another one, override the first > one and take the dragged one. I will ask in Pharodev mailing list." > > > > So what I recommend you is to put a breakpoint in startUpAfterLogin and > start to play. And let us know what happens. > > > > Thanks > > > > Mariano > > > > > > If the problem cannot be fixed, or if it will take time, it would be good > to have the work-around described in the "Pharo By Example" book. That is, > to comment out or delete the line > "ImageFile=Contents\Resources\Pharo-1.0.image" in Pharo.ini. Without this > fix, a new Smalltalker will hit the error as soon as they try to use the > PBE.image file. > > > > Image file management is one of those things that I like to get a clear > understanding of at an early stage when learning a new dev environment. > > > > --Thomas Costick > > _____________________ > > http://twitter.com/3dbloke > > http://blog.3dbloke.com > > > > > > On 22 June 2010 17:47, StÃ©phane Ducasse [via Smalltalk] <[hidden email]> > wrote: > > thanks thomas. > > This problem was reported on the squeak-vm mailing-list and there is not > much we can do. > > May be I'm wrong. > > > > Stef > > > > On Jun 22, 2010, at 6:38 PM, tgc05 wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi. I just want to let people know that this problem is listed on the > Pharo > > > application issues page at > > > > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2374&q=INI%20FILE&colspec=I… > > > > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2374&q=INI%20FILE&colspec=I… > > > > > > > > Issue 2374: Dragging a .image in a Windows VM raises an error > > > > > > Hope this is fixed soon, since it also affects anyone working through > the > > > early sections of the "Pharo By Example" book. > > > > > > --Thomas. > > > > > > -- > > > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Error-invalid-utf8-input-detected-tp2068483p2264408.h… > > > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Pharo-users mailing list > > > [hidden email] > > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-users mailing list > > [hidden email] > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > > > > View message @ > http://forum.world.st/Error-invalid-utf8-input-detected-tp2068483p2264434.h… > > To unsubscribe from Re: Error:invalid utf8 input detected., click here. > > > > > > > > View this message in context: Re: Error:invalid utf8 input detected. > > > > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-users mailing list > > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-users mailing list > > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >

June 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Error:invalid utf8 input detected.

by Mariano Martinez Peck

> > > I had hoped someone more in touch with > > the Pharo project would be able to fix this. > > Yes the problem is that we should get a PC for that :) > or a "PC". I have my Mac but with VirtualBox and two images: one with Windows XP and other one with ubuntu :) > We will improve > > > Meanwhile, the point I want to emphasise is that this error shows up for > > anyone working through the Pharo By Example book. Right from the start, > the > > book advises the reader to use a different image file from the quick > start > > one provided with Pharo. Doing this, the reader will immediately run > into > > the "Error:invalid utf8 input detected." problem. > > > > This could be enough to put some people off the idea of learning > Smalltalk, > > which I am sure we all want to avoid. Even if they persevere, the > > impression this gives if that either Pharo is a bit flakey or the PBE > book > > is at fault, or the PBE.image file is bad. Or all of these! > > > > As an aside, I would very much like to be able to contribute errata > notices > > and suggestions for improved wording for the PBE book. I have ordered > the > > hard-copy from Lulu.com and will markup any errors and clarifications as > I > > progress through the book. Does anyone know if I can log errata etc > online > > somewhere? > > > normally on the pharo by example web site > else send that to the discussion list there. > > Stef > > > > --Thomas. > > -- > > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Error-invalid-utf8-input-detected-tp2068483p2266740.h… > > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-users mailing list > > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >

June 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Error:invalid utf8 input detected.

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Mariano can you open a ticket with this problem? On Jun 24, 2010, at 10:07 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 8:17 PM, tgc05 <thomas(a)costick.net> wrote: > Hi Stef. I would have thought the VM initialize processing could be changed to avoid this problem, but I don't know the details :) > > > Hi Thomas. I cope paste here what I said before: > > "More in details, the problem is that when you pass an image, it is interpreted as "SmalltalkImage current getSystemAttribute: 1" > When you drag a second file (in your case a second image) it is interpreted as source file, not image, and thus the error with the encoding. > Put a breakpoint in the method startUpAfterLogin if you want to experiment a bit. > > At least with this, you know why it was the problem and how to avoid it. Maybe we should raise a better error or even better, if I have already defined an image in the ini file, but I drag another one, override the first one and take the dragged one. I will ask in Pharodev mailing list." > > So what I recommend you is to put a breakpoint in startUpAfterLogin and start to play. And let us know what happens. > > Thanks > > Mariano > > > If the problem cannot be fixed, or if it will take time, it would be good to have the work-around described in the "Pharo By Example" book. That is, to comment out or delete the line "ImageFile=Contents\Resources\Pharo-1.0.image" in Pharo.ini. Without this fix, a new Smalltalker will hit the error as soon as they try to use the PBE.image file. > > Image file management is one of those things that I like to get a clear understanding of at an early stage when learning a new dev environment. > > --Thomas Costick > _____________________ > http://twitter.com/3dbloke > http://blog.3dbloke.com > > > On 22 June 2010 17:47, StÃ©phane Ducasse [via Smalltalk] <[hidden email]> wrote: > thanks thomas. > This problem was reported on the squeak-vm mailing-list and there is not much we can do. > May be I'm wrong. > > Stef > > On Jun 22, 2010, at 6:38 PM, tgc05 wrote: > > > > > Hi. I just want to let people know that this problem is listed on the Pharo > > application issues page at > > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2374&q=INI%20FILE&colspec=I… > > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2374&q=INI%20FILE&colspec=I… > > > > > Issue 2374: Dragging a .image in a Windows VM raises an error > > > > Hope this is fixed soon, since it also affects anyone working through the > > early sections of the "Pharo By Example" book. > > > > --Thomas. > > > > -- > > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Error-invalid-utf8-input-detected-tp2068483p2264408.h… > > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-users mailing list > > [hidden email] > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > View message @ http://forum.world.st/Error-invalid-utf8-input-detected-tp2068483p2264434.h… > To unsubscribe from Re: Error:invalid utf8 input detected., click here. > > > > View this message in context: Re: Error:invalid utf8 input detected. > > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users

June 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Error:invalid utf8 input detected.

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Jun 24, 2010, at 12:46 PM, tgc05 wrote: > > Hi Mariano. Thanks for this. I'm new to Pharo and have been away from > Smalltalk for several years (way too long), so right now I am not ready to > start debugging the code; perhaps I will return to this when I have > recovered my "Smalltalk legs" :) the debugger is your best friend do not close it. But I understand your current problem > I had hoped someone more in touch with > the Pharo project would be able to fix this. Yes the problem is that we should get a PC for that :) We will improve > Meanwhile, the point I want to emphasise is that this error shows up for > anyone working through the Pharo By Example book. Right from the start, the > book advises the reader to use a different image file from the quick start > one provided with Pharo. Doing this, the reader will immediately run into > the "Error:invalid utf8 input detected." problem. > > This could be enough to put some people off the idea of learning Smalltalk, > which I am sure we all want to avoid. Even if they persevere, the > impression this gives if that either Pharo is a bit flakey or the PBE book > is at fault, or the PBE.image file is bad. Or all of these! > > As an aside, I would very much like to be able to contribute errata notices > and suggestions for improved wording for the PBE book. I have ordered the > hard-copy from Lulu.com and will markup any errors and clarifications as I > progress through the book. Does anyone know if I can log errata etc online > somewhere? normally on the pharo by example web site else send that to the discussion list there. Stef > > --Thomas. > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Error-invalid-utf8-input-detected-tp2068483p2266740.h… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users

June 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Error:invalid utf8 input detected.

by tgc05

Hi Mariano. Thanks for this. I'm new to Pharo and have been away from Smalltalk for several years (way too long), so right now I am not ready to start debugging the code; perhaps I will return to this when I have recovered my "Smalltalk legs" :) I had hoped someone more in touch with the Pharo project would be able to fix this. Meanwhile, the point I want to emphasise is that this error shows up for anyone working through the Pharo By Example book. Right from the start, the book advises the reader to use a different image file from the quick start one provided with Pharo. Doing this, the reader will immediately run into the "Error:invalid utf8 input detected." problem. This could be enough to put some people off the idea of learning Smalltalk, which I am sure we all want to avoid. Even if they persevere, the impression this gives if that either Pharo is a bit flakey or the PBE book is at fault, or the PBE.image file is bad. Or all of these! As an aside, I would very much like to be able to contribute errata notices and suggestions for improved wording for the PBE book. I have ordered the hard-copy from Lulu.com and will markup any errors and clarifications as I progress through the book. Does anyone know if I can log errata etc online somewhere? --Thomas. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Error-invalid-utf8-input-detected-tp2068483p2266742.h… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

June 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Error:invalid utf8 input detected.

by tgc05

Hi Mariano. Thanks for this. I'm new to Pharo and have been away from Smalltalk for several years (way too long), so right now I am not ready to start debugging the code; perhaps I will return to this when I have recovered my "Smalltalk legs" :) I had hoped someone more in touch with the Pharo project would be able to fix this. Meanwhile, the point I want to emphasise is that this error shows up for anyone working through the Pharo By Example book. Right from the start, the book advises the reader to use a different image file from the quick start one provided with Pharo. Doing this, the reader will immediately run into the "Error:invalid utf8 input detected." problem. This could be enough to put some people off the idea of learning Smalltalk, which I am sure we all want to avoid. Even if they persevere, the impression this gives if that either Pharo is a bit flakey or the PBE book is at fault, or the PBE.image file is bad. Or all of these! As an aside, I would very much like to be able to contribute errata notices and suggestions for improved wording for the PBE book. I have ordered the hard-copy from Lulu.com and will markup any errors and clarifications as I progress through the book. Does anyone know if I can log errata etc online somewhere? --Thomas. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Error-invalid-utf8-input-detected-tp2068483p2266740.h… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

June 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] VM/Settings for Deploy

by laurent laffont

On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck < marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)beta9.be>wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I am very happy that I managed to create a very small deploy image based >> on Pharo-1.1-11400-rc2. This image contains all of Seaside and >> Glorp/PostgreSQL and is still only about 12Mb. All this thanks to >> ScriptLoader's #cleanUpForProduction. >> >> Thanks a lot to all who made this possible. >> >> I noticed however that this image is handling my HTTP/Seaside benchmark >> consistenly faster on my Mac, about 80 to 85 req/s (Mac OS X 10.6.4, 2.4 Ghz >> Intel Core 2 Duo with 4GB RAM) than on my server (RHEL 4 (update 7), 2 Ghz >> AMD Opteron 175 Dual Core with 4GB RAM), about 55 to 65 req/s. >> >> On my Mac I use the Squeak 4.2.4beta1U VM, on my server the >> Squeak-4.0.3.2202 Unix VM. >> >> Next I tried the Squeak-4.0.3.2202 VM on my Mac. This resulted in about 60 >> to 70 req/s. >> >> Is it normal that the Unix VM is slower than the Mac VM ? >> > Hi, I've struggled on this and finally give up. It seems Linux VM can be better than MacOSX one: - http://forum.world.st/Squeak-VM-FT2Plugin-all-Pharo-1-0-rc3-tests-green-tp1… - http://forum.world.st/Squeak-VM-FT2Plugin-all-Pharo-1-0-rc3-tests-green-tp1… But how is a secret: http://forum.world.st/Squeak-VM-FT2Plugin-all-Pharo-1-0-rc3-tests-green-tp1… I will help if you work on building the VM for Linux. Cheers, Laurent Laffont http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/ http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ > > > For what I have been experimenting, and with the default configuration, > yes. > I mean, if you go to the website, download both VMs, and run, I think that > yes. Maybe compiling Linux vms with particular flags in the configure, you > may have better results. > > I said this in another thread I people said I was talking bullship, so, I > won't talk any more. > > I let you two links in case you are interested to read: > > > http://forum.world.st/Pharo-apparently-slow-on-linux-td1304643.html#a1304643 > > > http://forum.world.st/Squeak-VM-FT2Plugin-all-Pharo-1-0-rc3-tests-green-tp1… > > > >> Shouldn't a Linux server box be faster at networking/IO/CPU than a MacBook >> Pro running the full Mac OS X GUI ? >> > > > not necessary. Because you depends on the VM I think. > > > >> >> Is there anything simple (low hanging fruit kind of stuff) that I can do >> to improve performance, either using command line options to the VM or using >> settings at the image level ? >> > > > yes. First the flags when compiling the VM. Check the version of GCC. > Then you can check all the parameters of the GC and etc...but I have no > idea how to tune this. > > >> I currently run the VM with: >> >> Squeak-4.0.3.2202-linux_i386/bin/squeak -vm-display-null >> -vm-sound-null deploy.image >> >> What are others using in the Seaside deploy area ? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Sven >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-users mailing list >> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > >

June 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Error:invalid utf8 input detected.

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 8:17 PM, tgc05 <thomas(a)costick.net> wrote: > Hi Stef. I would have thought the VM initialize processing could be > changed to avoid this problem, but I don't know the details :) > > Hi Thomas. I cope paste here what I said before: "More in details, the problem is that when you pass an image, it is interpreted as "SmalltalkImage current getSystemAttribute: 1" When you drag a second file (in your case a second image) it is interpreted as source file, not image, and thus the error with the encoding. Put a breakpoint in the method startUpAfterLogin if you want to experiment a bit. At least with this, you know why it was the problem and how to avoid it. Maybe we should raise a better error or even better, if I have already defined an image in the ini file, but I drag another one, override the first one and take the dragged one. I will ask in Pharodev mailing list." So what I recommend you is to put a breakpoint in startUpAfterLogin and start to play. And let us know what happens. Thanks Mariano > If the problem cannot be fixed, or if it will take time, it would be good > to have the work-around described in the "*Pharo By Example*" book. That > is, to comment out or delete the line " > ImageFile=Contents\Resources\Pharo-1.0.image" in Pharo.ini. Without this > fix, a new Smalltalker will hit the error as soon as they try to use the > PBE.image file. > > Image file management is one of those things that I like to get a clear > understanding of at an early stage when learning a new dev environment. > > --Thomas Costick > _____________________ > http://twitter.com/3dbloke > http://blog.3dbloke.com <http://blog.3dbloke.com?by-user=t> > > > On 22 June 2010 17:47, StÃ©phane Ducasse [via Smalltalk] <[hidden email]<http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=2264560&i=0> > > wrote: > >> thanks thomas. >> This problem was reported on the squeak-vm mailing-list and there is not >> much we can do. >> May be I'm wrong. >> >> Stef >> >> On Jun 22, 2010, at 6:38 PM, tgc05 wrote: >> >> > >> > Hi. I just want to let people know that this problem is listed on the >> Pharo >> > application issues page at >> > >> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2374&q=INI%20FILE&colspec=I… >> > >> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2374&q=INI%20FILE&colspec=I… >> >> >> > >> > Issue 2374: Dragging a .image in a Windows VM raises an error >> > >> > Hope this is fixed soon, since it also affects anyone working through >> the >> > early sections of the "Pharo By Example" book. >> > >> > --Thomas. >> > >> > -- >> > View this message in context: >> http://forum.world.st/Error-invalid-utf8-input-detected-tp2068483p2264408.h…<http://forum.world.st/Error-invalid-utf8-input-detected-tp2068483p2264408.h…> >> > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Pharo-users mailing list >> > [hidden email] <http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=2264434&i=0> >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-users mailing list >> [hidden email] <http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=2264434&i=1> >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> View message @ >> http://forum.world.st/Error-invalid-utf8-input-detected-tp2068483p2264434.h…<http://forum.world.st/Error-invalid-utf8-input-detected-tp2068483p2264434.h…> >> To unsubscribe from Re: Error:invalid utf8 input detected., click here. >> >> > > ------------------------------ > View this message in context: Re: Error:invalid utf8 input detected.<http://forum.world.st/Error-invalid-utf8-input-detected-tp2068483p2264560.h…> > > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive<http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html>at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > >

June 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] VM/Settings for Deploy

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)beta9.be>wrote: > Hi, > > I am very happy that I managed to create a very small deploy image based on > Pharo-1.1-11400-rc2. This image contains all of Seaside and Glorp/PostgreSQL > and is still only about 12Mb. All this thanks to ScriptLoader's > #cleanUpForProduction. > > Thanks a lot to all who made this possible. > > I noticed however that this image is handling my HTTP/Seaside benchmark > consistenly faster on my Mac, about 80 to 85 req/s (Mac OS X 10.6.4, 2.4 Ghz > Intel Core 2 Duo with 4GB RAM) than on my server (RHEL 4 (update 7), 2 Ghz > AMD Opteron 175 Dual Core with 4GB RAM), about 55 to 65 req/s. > > On my Mac I use the Squeak 4.2.4beta1U VM, on my server the > Squeak-4.0.3.2202 Unix VM. > > Next I tried the Squeak-4.0.3.2202 VM on my Mac. This resulted in about 60 > to 70 req/s. > > Is it normal that the Unix VM is slower than the Mac VM ? > For what I have been experimenting, and with the default configuration, yes. I mean, if you go to the website, download both VMs, and run, I think that yes. Maybe compiling Linux vms with particular flags in the configure, you may have better results. I said this in another thread I people said I was talking bullship, so, I won't talk any more. I let you two links in case you are interested to read: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-apparently-slow-on-linux-td1304643.html#a1304643 http://forum.world.st/Squeak-VM-FT2Plugin-all-Pharo-1-0-rc3-tests-green-tp1… > Shouldn't a Linux server box be faster at networking/IO/CPU than a MacBook > Pro running the full Mac OS X GUI ? > not necessary. Because you depends on the VM I think. > > Is there anything simple (low hanging fruit kind of stuff) that I can do to > improve performance, either using command line options to the VM or using > settings at the image level ? > yes. First the flags when compiling the VM. Check the version of GCC. Then you can check all the parameters of the GC and etc...but I have no idea how to tune this. > I currently run the VM with: > > Squeak-4.0.3.2202-linux_i386/bin/squeak -vm-display-null > -vm-sound-null deploy.image > > What are others using in the Seaside deploy area ? > > Thanks, > > Sven > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >

June 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] [SqueakDBX] Re: installer bug?

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 12:21 AM, John Toohey <jt(a)parspro.com> wrote: > On the lastest Pharo 1.1 the following :- > > Gofer new > squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; > package: 'ConfigurationOfGlorpDBX'; > load. > > ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfGlorpDBX) project version: '1.0') load. > > causes a syntax error in Scanner#xLetter. Has anyone installed > GlorpDBX on Pharo1.1? > > > yes, but I am using 1.1 version: ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfGlorpDBX) project version: '1.1') load. Cheers Mariano > > On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:43, Mariano Martinez Peck > <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi Yoandy. As Stef said, the recommended way to install SqueakDBX or > GlorpDBX in Pharo is using Metacello. > > You can see read that in this link (please take a look): > > > > http://www.squeakdbx.org/Installation > > > > Right now, to install SqueakDBX you have to evaluate: > > > > Gofer new > > squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; > > package: 'ConfigurationOfSqueakDBX'; > > load. > > > > ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfSqueakDBX) project version: '1.2') load. > > > > > > And for GlorpDBX: > > > > Gofer new > > squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; > > package: 'ConfigurationOfGlorpDBX'; > > load. > > > > ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfGlorpDBX) project version: '1.0') load. > > > > > > Cheers > > > > Mariano > > > > On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 5:25 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < > stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >> > >> On Apr 1, 2010, at 4:21 PM, Yoandy RodrÃguez MartÃnez wrote: > >> > >> > hello: > >> > I'm trying to install SqueakDBX and evaluating 'Installer ss' fails > cause squeaksource message is not understood. I got Installer-Core-nm.357 > from squeaksource. Is it a bug or did I just installed the wrong package?. > Can anyone please send me the code of squeaksource method so I can fix my > working copy? > >> > >> I'm sure that mariano will reply better than me but use > >> the ConfigurationOfxxx in the metaRepository do load it, or Gofer. > >> I'm not sure that Installer is maintained in Pharo and this is not the > preferred way. > >> > >> Stef > >> > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Pharo-users mailing list > >> > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-users mailing list > >> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SqueakDBX mailing list > > SqueakDBX(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakdbx > > > > > > -- > -JT > _______________________________________________ > SqueakDBX mailing list > SqueakDBX(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakdbx >

June 23, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-project] Pharocasts: How to contribute updated + WorldMenu

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

thanks! On Jun 23, 2010, at 10:11 AM, laurent laffont wrote: > Hi, > > Learn how to: > - choose an issue to fix from the Pharo issue tracking > - create and send a slice with your fix > - add entries into the World Menu > > Code must be sent as a SLICE named SLICE-Issue-xxxx-description. Patrick Barroca and StÃ©phane Ducasse have added a +Slice button in Pharo 1.1 to ensure this convention. > > For more informations on the contribution process, read "How to contribute" on Pharo wiki. > > Here I show how issue #2582 (Rearrange WorldMenu) has been fixed, based on WorldMenu registration chapter in the Pharo CollaborActive book. > > Screecast here: http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/2010/03/how-to-contribute-to-pharo.html > > Cheers, > > Laurent Laffont > > http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/ > http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 23, 2010

VM/Settings for Deploy

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

Hi, I am very happy that I managed to create a very small deploy image based on Pharo-1.1-11400-rc2. This image contains all of Seaside and Glorp/PostgreSQL and is still only about 12Mb. All this thanks to ScriptLoader's #cleanUpForProduction. Thanks a lot to all who made this possible. I noticed however that this image is handling my HTTP/Seaside benchmark consistenly faster on my Mac, about 80 to 85 req/s (Mac OS X 10.6.4, 2.4 Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo with 4GB RAM) than on my server (RHEL 4 (update 7), 2 Ghz AMD Opteron 175 Dual Core with 4GB RAM), about 55 to 65 req/s. On my Mac I use the Squeak 4.2.4beta1U VM, on my server the Squeak-4.0.3.2202 Unix VM. Next I tried the Squeak-4.0.3.2202 VM on my Mac. This resulted in about 60 to 70 req/s. Is it normal that the Unix VM is slower than the Mac VM ? Shouldn't a Linux server box be faster at networking/IO/CPU than a MacBook Pro running the full Mac OS X GUI ? Is there anything simple (low hanging fruit kind of stuff) that I can do to improve performance, either using command line options to the VM or using settings at the image level ? I currently run the VM with: Squeak-4.0.3.2202-linux_i386/bin/squeak -vm-display-null -vm-sound-null deploy.image What are others using in the Seaside deploy area ? Thanks, Sven

June 23, 2010

Pharocasts: How to contribute updated + WorldMenu

by laurent laffont

Hi, Learn how to: - choose an issue to fix from the Pharo issue tracking - create and send a slice with your fix - add entries into the World Menu Code must be sent as a SLICE named SLICE-Issue-xxxx-description. Patrick Barroca and StÃ©phane Ducasse have added a +Slice button in Pharo 1.1 to ensure this convention. For more informations on the contribution process, read "How to contribute" on Pharo wiki. Here I show how issue #2582 (Rearrange WorldMenu) has been fixed, based on WorldMenu registration chapter in the Pharo CollaborActive book. Screecast here: http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/2010/03/how-to-contribute-to-pharo.html <http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/2010/03/how-to-contribute-to-pharo.html> Cheers, Laurent Laffont http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/ http://magaloma.blogspot.com/

June 23, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Error:invalid utf8 input detected.

by tgc05

Hi Stef. I would have thought the VM initialize processing could be changed to avoid this problem, but I don't know the details :) If the problem cannot be fixed, or if it will take time, it would be good to have the work-around described in the "*Pharo By Example*" book. That is, to comment out or delete the line "ImageFile=Contents\Resources\Pharo-1.0.image" in Pharo.ini. Without this fix, a new Smalltalker will hit the error as soon as they try to use the PBE.image file. Image file management is one of those things that I like to get a clear understanding of at an early stage when learning a new dev environment. --Thomas Costick _____________________ http://twitter.com/3dbloke http://blog.3dbloke.com On 22 June 2010 17:47, StÃ©phane Ducasse [via Smalltalk] < ml-node+2264434-1701963449-299646(a)n4.nabble.com<ml-node%2B2264434-1701963449-299646(a)n4.nabble.com> > wrote: > thanks thomas. > This problem was reported on the squeak-vm mailing-list and there is not > much we can do. > May be I'm wrong. > > Stef > > On Jun 22, 2010, at 6:38 PM, tgc05 wrote: > > > > > Hi. I just want to let people know that this problem is listed on the > Pharo > > application issues page at > > > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2374&q=INI%20FILE&colspec=I… > > > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2374&q=INI%20FILE&colspec=I… > > > > > Issue 2374: Dragging a .image in a Windows VM raises an error > > > > Hope this is fixed soon, since it also affects anyone working through the > > > early sections of the "Pharo By Example" book. > > > > --Thomas. > > > > -- > > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Error-invalid-utf8-input-detected-tp2068483p2264408.h…<http://forum.world.st/Error-invalid-utf8-input-detected-tp2068483p2264408.h…> > > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-users mailing list > > [hidden email] <http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=2264434&i=0> > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > [hidden email] <http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=2264434&i=1> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > ------------------------------ > View message @ > http://forum.world.st/Error-invalid-utf8-input-detected-tp2068483p2264434.h… > To unsubscribe from Re: Error:invalid utf8 input detected., click here< (link removed) ==>. > > > -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Error-invalid-utf8-input-detected-tp2068483p2264560.h… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

June 22, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Error:invalid utf8 input detected.

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

thanks thomas. This problem was reported on the squeak-vm mailing-list and there is not much we can do. May be I'm wrong. Stef On Jun 22, 2010, at 6:38 PM, tgc05 wrote: > > Hi. I just want to let people know that this problem is listed on the Pharo > application issues page at > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2374&q=INI%20FILE&colspec=I… > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2374&q=INI%20FILE&colspec=I… > > Issue 2374: Dragging a .image in a Windows VM raises an error > > Hope this is fixed soon, since it also affects anyone working through the > early sections of the "Pharo By Example" book. > > --Thomas. > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Error-invalid-utf8-input-detected-tp2068483p2264408.h… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users

June 22, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Error:invalid utf8 input detected.

by tgc05

Hi. I just want to let people know that this problem is listed on the Pharo application issues page at http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2374&q=INI%20FILE&colspec=I… http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2374&q=INI%20FILE&colspec=I… Issue 2374: Dragging a .image in a Windows VM raises an error Hope this is fixed soon, since it also affects anyone working through the early sections of the "Pharo By Example" book. --Thomas. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Error-invalid-utf8-input-detected-tp2068483p2264408.h… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

June 22, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Installing GlorpDBX on Pharo 1.1

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 11:54 PM, Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo(a)gmail.com > wrote: > > Hi All, > > What do I have to do to get GlorpDBX installed on a Pharo 1.1 beta image? > > The recommended way is using Metacello. It is explained here: http://www.squeakdbx.org/Installation Altough now there is a new development version, so you may want to install it by: Gofer new squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; package: 'ConfigurationOfGlorpDBX'; load. ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfGlorpDBX) project version: '1.1') load > Sorry, but I'm new to the Gofer, Metacello, Monticello, Installer ss and > all > those utilities. > Every time I try to catch up, it's always a step ahead of me :) > > hahah don't worry. > > Thank you! > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Installing-GlorpDBX-on-Pharo-1-1-tp2263345p2263345.ht… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >

June 22, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Installing GlorpDBX on Pharo 1.1

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 1:42 AM, Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo(a)gmail.com>wrote: > > Don't ask me how, but I managed to install SqueakDBX and GlorpDBX on Pharo > 1.1 :) > > What I wonder now is how to run the tests, because I downloaded the DLLs > from OpenDBX website, put them on the VM directory, but if I try to run the > tests most of them complains about the missing DLL, for example LIBPQ.DLL. > This is because OpenDBX doesn't directly talks to the database. Instead, it just unifies APIs and then delegate (talks) to the particular database client library. This means that when you want to use OpenDBX with a particular database you need the OpenDBX library AND the database client library. This is explained here: http://www.squeakdbx.org/Compiling%20and%20installing%20OpenDBX Where do you have installed PostgreSQL? in your own machine? Be sure you have /bin in the $PATH. For example if you installed postgres in C:\PostgreSQL\8.3\ then you should add to PATH: C:\PostgreSQL\8.3\bin\ you will see libpq.dll is there, the problem is windows cannot find it. > Do I have to download all of them to run the tests? > Dlls ? No, you just need libopendbx dll and the dll of your backend. In you case, libpgsqlbackend. > Which leads to the next question... how are the tests supposed to run? Sorry. This is kind of hack/lazyness/lack of time. It is explained here: http://www.squeakdbx.org/GLORP%20integration (subtitle unit tests) In SqueakDBX I fixed this using a TestResource and brining a popup that let you choose which database you want to test. But I didn't have time to do it in GlorpDBX :( > Do > they need a MySQL/SQLite/PgSQL database server configured? > I don't know what configured means. What I can tell you is that for running the tests, you DO need a database running. And you have to tell Glorp which username/pass to use. Read in the same link I sent you aboce. > > By now I just want to use GlorpDBX with SQLite3 as its backend. > There is a bunch of libXXXXXbackend-1.dll files with the OpenDBX binaries, > but I don't think it's what I need. > > No, you just need libopendbx dll and libsqlite3backend ups....sqlite ? I never tried it with GlorpDBX :( SqueakDBX is working for sure with sqlite, but I have no idea about GlorpDBX. We test it (for the moment) with Postgres, mysql and oracle. Cheers Mariano > Thank you very much. > > ps: I'll try to find the missing DLL's and place them on the VM directory, > and log it back here if it works. > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Installing-GlorpDBX-on-Pharo-1-1-tp2263345p2263423.ht… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >

June 22, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Installing GlorpDBX on Pharo 1.1

by Esteban A. Maringolo

Don't ask me how, but I managed to install SqueakDBX and GlorpDBX on Pharo 1.1 :) What I wonder now is how to run the tests, because I downloaded the DLLs from OpenDBX website, put them on the VM directory, but if I try to run the tests most of them complains about the missing DLL, for example LIBPQ.DLL. Do I have to download all of them to run the tests? Which leads to the next question... how are the tests supposed to run? Do they need a MySQL/SQLite/PgSQL database server configured? By now I just want to use GlorpDBX with SQLite3 as its backend. There is a bunch of libXXXXXbackend-1.dll files with the OpenDBX binaries, but I don't think it's what I need. Thank you very much. ps: I'll try to find the missing DLL's and place them on the VM directory, and log it back here if it works. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Installing-GlorpDBX-on-Pharo-1-1-tp2263345p2263423.ht… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

June 21, 2010

Installing GlorpDBX on Pharo 1.1

by Esteban A. Maringolo

Hi All, What do I have to do to get GlorpDBX installed on a Pharo 1.1 beta image? Sorry, but I'm new to the Gofer, Metacello, Monticello, Installer ss and all those utilities. Every time I try to catch up, it's always a step ahead of me :) Thank you! -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Installing-GlorpDBX-on-Pharo-1-1-tp2263345p2263345.ht… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

June 21, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] What's the correct way to create anonymous subclasses in Pharo?

by Joachim Geidel

Mariano, Am 21.06.10 11:49 schrieb Mariano Martinez Peck: > Hi Joachim: if you figured out how to do it, it would be cool to write it down > in the http://book.pharo-project.org/ The problem is a bug in Squeak and Pharo, apparently at the VM level. Subclasses of classes in the specialObjectsArray create instances of their superclass when sent #new or #basicNew. I have already submitted a bug report for Pharo and should probably enter a similar one for Squeak: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2523 I have tested this only on Mac OS X 10.6, so it is possible that only the Mac OS X VM has this problem. It should be easy to check if it happens with other VMs too. Concerning contributions to Pharo and Squeak: I will restrict my work to JNIPort and won't get involved in any work on Pharo or Squeak. The reason is that I have a very limited amount of time to spend on open source projects, so I have to draw a strict borderline. Cheers, Joachim Geidel

June 21, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-project] Pharo book TableLayout tutorial

by laurent laffont

2010/6/21 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> > > > On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 10:28 PM, laurent laffont < > laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I've added a tutorial on TableLayout >> http://book.pharo-project.org/book/GUI/PolymorphTutorial/TableLayout/which follows the one on Proportional Layout. >> >> Again, thanks for feedback and English check. >> >> > Hi Laurent. I have just watch it, it's great. I love Pharocasts. A little > feedback (not about English): the color of the subtitles. They are blue and > sometimes very similar to the background color. Mostly, to the task bar. > OK, thank you. Laurent. > > Cheers > > Mariano > > Cheers, >> >> Laurent Laffont >> >> http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/ >> http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-users mailing list >> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

June 21, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] What's the correct way to create anonymous subclasses in Pharo?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

can you enter a bug entry in the bug report? Stef On May 23, 2010, at 2:49 PM, Joachim Geidel wrote: > Hi everybody, > > I am attempting to create subclasses of existing classes at runtime. They > must not be in their superclass' list of subclasses, because they have to be > garbage collected when they are no longer needed. > > This is what I tried to create such a class in Pharo 1.0: > > newMeta := (Metaclass new) > superclass: Rectangle class > methodDictionary: MethodDictionary new > format: Rectangle class format; > yourself. > newClass := (newMeta new) > superclass: Rectangle > methodDictionary: MethodDictionary new > format: Rectangle format; > setName: #MyRectangle; > yourself. > newClass new class == newClass "--> false" > > The result of "newClass new" seems to be an instance of Rectangle, not of > newClass. The test at the end of the code snippet answers false. When I > compile a new method in newClass and install it in newClass' > methodDictionary, an instance will not understand a message with the > method's selector. > > Almost the same code will do what I want in VisualWorks: > > | newMeta newClass | > newMeta := (Metaclass new) > superclass: Rectangle class; > methodDictionary: MethodDictionary new; > setInstanceFormat: Rectangle class format; > yourself. > newClass := (newMeta new) > superclass: Rectangle; > methodDictionary: MethodDictionary new; > setInstanceFormat: Rectangle format; > setName: #MyRectangle; > yourself. > newClass new class == newClass "--> true" > > Does anybody have an idea what the problem is and what can be done to > circumvent it? > > Thanks in advance! > Joachim Geidel > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users

June 21, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo book TableLayout tutorial

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 10:28 PM, laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com > wrote: > Hi, > > I've added a tutorial on TableLayout > http://book.pharo-project.org/book/GUI/PolymorphTutorial/TableLayout/which follows the one on Proportional Layout. > > Again, thanks for feedback and English check. > > Hi Laurent. I have just watch it, it's great. I love Pharocasts. A little feedback (not about English): the color of the subtitles. They are blue and sometimes very similar to the background color. Mostly, to the task bar. Cheers Mariano Cheers, > > Laurent Laffont > > http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/ > http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > >

June 21, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Writing extensions

by Bob Cowdery

Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Bob Cowdery <bob(a)bobcowdery.plus.com > <mailto:bob@bobcowdery.plus.com>> wrote: > > Hi Mariano > > Thanks for the links. I managed to dig out my old code and found > some of > the links, enough for me to write the slang and convert to C. Now > I need > some header files for the build and presumable a library to link > > > which headers? I am a vm newbie, so I cc'ed squeak-vm mailing list. > They may help you much more than me. > I see in the generated file: sqVirtualMachine.h sqConfig.h sqPlatformSpecific.h sqMemoryAccess.h I had another look around and found this, http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/BuildingAVMOnPharo which has a link to the squeak source SVN. I checked that out and it certainly has all the header files. I still don't know about the libraries. It only talks about building the VM, not a plugin. I don't remember having to jump through any hoops before so I must be missing something. It's another step forward though. Bob > Cheers > > Mariano > > > against. I would appreciate a pointer to those as it's not obvious > from > the links where to get those from. > > Regards > Bob > > Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > Hi Bob and welcome. There are two possibiities I know to > > write/communicate to C: > > > > - The FFI plugin is intended to call external libraries from > Smalltalk > > http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/1414 > > http://forum.world.st/FFI-Documentation-td2225148.html#a2225148 > > > > - Write your own VM primitives > > http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/356 > > http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/3336 > > http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6102 > > > > Probably there are much more links, but maybe this is enough to > > remember you what you used. > > > > Let us know > > > > Mariano > > > > On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Bob Cowdery > <bob(a)bobcowdery.plus.com <mailto:bob@bobcowdery.plus.com> > > <mailto:bob@bobcowdery.plus.com > <mailto:bob@bobcowdery.plus.com>>> wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > I played with Squeak about 4 years ago and I built some > extensions > > in C. > > I would like to do the same again with Pharo and I have a > big lump > > of C > > I would like to interface to. I can't actually remember what > I did > > before and can't seem to find the tutorial I used. Could > somebody > > point > > me in the right direction please. > > > > Thanks > > Bob > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-users mailing list > > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > <mailto:Pharo-users@lists.gforge.inria.fr> > > <mailto:Pharo-users@lists.gforge.inria.fr > <mailto:Pharo-users@lists.gforge.inria.fr>> > > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-users mailing list > > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > <mailto:Pharo-users@lists.gforge.inria.fr> > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > <mailto:Pharo-users@lists.gforge.inria.fr> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >

June 21, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Writing extensions

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck < marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Bob Cowdery <bob(a)bobcowdery.plus.com>wrote: > >> Hi Mariano >> >> Thanks for the links. I managed to dig out my old code and found some of >> the links, enough for me to write the slang and convert to C. Now I need >> some header files for the build and presumable a library to link >> > > which headers? I am a vm newbie, so I cc'ed squeak-vm mailing list. They > may help you much more than me. > > Cheers > > Mariano > > >> against. I would appreciate a pointer to those as it's not obvious from >> the links where to get those from. >> >> Regards >> Bob >> >> Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >> > Hi Bob and welcome. There are two possibiities I know to >> > write/communicate to C: >> > >> > - The FFI plugin is intended to call external libraries from Smalltalk >> > http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/1414 >> > http://forum.world.st/FFI-Documentation-td2225148.html#a2225148 >> > >> > - Write your own VM primitives >> > http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/356 >> > http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/3336 >> > http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6102 >> > >> > Probably there are much more links, but maybe this is enough to >> > remember you what you used. >> > >> > Let us know >> > >> > Mariano >> > >> > On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Bob Cowdery <bob(a)bobcowdery.plus.com >> > <mailto:bob@bobcowdery.plus.com>> wrote: >> > >> > Hi all, >> > >> > I played with Squeak about 4 years ago and I built some extensions >> > in C. >> > I would like to do the same again with Pharo and I have a big lump >> > of C >> > I would like to interface to. I can't actually remember what I did >> > before and can't seem to find the tutorial I used. Could somebody >> > point >> > me in the right direction please. >> > >> > Thanks >> > Bob >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Pharo-users mailing list >> > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > <mailto:Pharo-users@lists.gforge.inria.fr> >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Pharo-users mailing list >> > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >> > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-users mailing list >> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >> > >

June 21, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Writing extensions

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Bob Cowdery <bob(a)bobcowdery.plus.com>wrote: > Hi Mariano > > Thanks for the links. I managed to dig out my old code and found some of > the links, enough for me to write the slang and convert to C. Now I need > some header files for the build and presumable a library to link > which headers? I am a vm newbie, so I cc'ed squeak-vm mailing list. They may help you much more than me. Cheers Mariano > against. I would appreciate a pointer to those as it's not obvious from > the links where to get those from. > > Regards > Bob > > Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > Hi Bob and welcome. There are two possibiities I know to > > write/communicate to C: > > > > - The FFI plugin is intended to call external libraries from Smalltalk > > http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/1414 > > http://forum.world.st/FFI-Documentation-td2225148.html#a2225148 > > > > - Write your own VM primitives > > http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/356 > > http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/3336 > > http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6102 > > > > Probably there are much more links, but maybe this is enough to > > remember you what you used. > > > > Let us know > > > > Mariano > > > > On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Bob Cowdery <bob(a)bobcowdery.plus.com > > <mailto:bob@bobcowdery.plus.com>> wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > I played with Squeak about 4 years ago and I built some extensions > > in C. > > I would like to do the same again with Pharo and I have a big lump > > of C > > I would like to interface to. I can't actually remember what I did > > before and can't seem to find the tutorial I used. Could somebody > > point > > me in the right direction please. > > > > Thanks > > Bob > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-users mailing list > > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > <mailto:Pharo-users@lists.gforge.inria.fr> > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-users mailing list > > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >

June 21, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Writing extensions

by Bob Cowdery

Hi Mariano Thanks for the links. I managed to dig out my old code and found some of the links, enough for me to write the slang and convert to C. Now I need some header files for the build and presumable a library to link against. I would appreciate a pointer to those as it's not obvious from the links where to get those from. Regards Bob Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > Hi Bob and welcome. There are two possibiities I know to > write/communicate to C: > > - The FFI plugin is intended to call external libraries from Smalltalk > http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/1414 > http://forum.world.st/FFI-Documentation-td2225148.html#a2225148 > > - Write your own VM primitives > http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/356 > http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/3336 > http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6102 > > Probably there are much more links, but maybe this is enough to > remember you what you used. > > Let us know > > Mariano > > On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Bob Cowdery <bob(a)bobcowdery.plus.com > <mailto:bob@bobcowdery.plus.com>> wrote: > > Hi all, > > I played with Squeak about 4 years ago and I built some extensions > in C. > I would like to do the same again with Pharo and I have a big lump > of C > I would like to interface to. I can't actually remember what I did > before and can't seem to find the tutorial I used. Could somebody > point > me in the right direction please. > > Thanks > Bob > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > <mailto:Pharo-users@lists.gforge.inria.fr> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >

June 21, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] What's the correct way to create anonymous subclasses in Pharo?

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Hi Joachim: if you figured out how to do it, it would be cool to write it down in the http://book.pharo-project.org/ let me know if you want to do it and I create an user for you cheers mariano On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 9:29 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > wrote: > clone is depreacted. > On May 23, 2010, at 3:38 PM, Joachim Geidel wrote: > > > Am 23.05.10 15:15 schrieb Igor Stasenko: > > > Do you really need to create a meta? > > If not , then you can do just: > > > newClass := Rectangle clone. > newClass > superclass: Rectangle; > > organization: nil; > methodDict: MethodDictionary new. > > Unfortunately, this doesnât solve the problem: > > > >> | newClass method | > >> newClass := Rectangle clone. > >> newClass > >> superclass: Rectangle; > >> organization: nil; > >> methodDict: MethodDictionary new; > >> setName: #MyRectangle. > >> newClass new class name. "--> #Rectangle" > >> newClass new class == newClass. "--> false" > >> method := (newClass compile: 'testGhost ^42' > >> classified: nil > >> notifying: nil > >> trailer: newClass defaultMethodTrailer > >> ifFail: [nil]) method. > >> newClass addSelectorSilently: #testGhost withMethod: method. > >> newClass canUnderstand: #testGhost. "--> true". > >> newClass new respondsTo: #testGhost. "--> false" > >> newClass new testGhost. "--> Message not understood, should answer 42" > > > > The problem is not the MetaClass (I do need it), but that the new class > doesnât create instances of itself, which I find very, very strange. > > > > Best regards, > > Joachim Geidel > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-users mailing list > > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >

June 21, 2010