May 2010 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] Resolving some dependencies...

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Carla: some time ago with stef we moved the working packages form http://www.squeaksource.com/PharoMorphicExtras to http://www.squeaksource.com/PharoNonCorePackages As you can see in PharoNonCorePackages it is no more MorphicExtras. In addition, we did ConfigurationOfPharoMorphicExtras So please, from nowon, use that repository. And in case of changing something, commit it there, as the next dev images will use PharoNonCorePackages and not PharoMorphicExtras. Cheers Mariano On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 7:15 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > wrote: > ExtraMorphs? > On May 10, 2010, at 5:15 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > > > > > On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Carla F. Griggio < > carla.griggio(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Uff, then... I'll have to do some work over this :) > > > > About MorphicExtras, if you say it's a lot of crap, I trust you. > > > > me too. > > > > But the name of ConfigurationOfPharoMorphicExtras suggests that it will > load MorphicExtras (at least for me, because I had the package name 'Morphic > Extras' stucked in my head when I found the metacello configuration) :$ So > that might be a little confusing. > > > > That's exactly why I asked. Stef, Carla, do you have a better name for > such configuration ? > > > > Cheers > > > > Mariano > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > Carla > > > > > > On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 8:03 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < > stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > PS: When I used ConfigurationOfPharoMorphicExtras, it loaded some > Morphic packages but not the MorphicExtras package itself, I had to load it > manually later. Is that OK? > > > > > > Yes because MorphicExtras-StephaneDucasse.144 is a dead package. It is > full of crap or experimental code. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But anyway, I think she is right. > > > > she is not > > > > > The package MorphicExtras should be loaded, together with > MorphExamplesAndDemos and LED, shouldn't it ? > > > > No it should NOT! > > Check the classes in there and you will see that you do NOT want that in > your image. :) > > What I did was to extract the MorphExampleAndDemos where I cleaned the > code made sure that the xamples > > are working...... > > > > So MorphicExtras should just be there so that people can extract > something that they would like to repackage. Period. > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > mariano > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Pharo-users mailing list > > > > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Pharo-users mailing list > > > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Pharo-users mailing list > > > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-users mailing list > > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-users mailing list > > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-users mailing list > > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >

May 12, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Request help in using any WYSIWYG Javascript editor, preferably TinyMCE

by Miguel Enrique CobÃ¡ Martinez

El mar, 11-05-2010 a las 16:57 -0400, Marco A. Gonzalez escribiÃ³: > Hi, I'm new to Pharo, and think that along with Seaside, it is so well > architected that it's compelling me to try it for professional web > development. > > I've created a simple web application in Seaside into which I'd like > to incorporate a WYSIWYG Javascript editor for the HTML textarea tags > so my users can enter stylized text. I've used TinyMCE in the past in > my Java-based web apps, and it's been very simple to integrate. > See http://tinymce.moxiecode.com/. > > However, I can't get it to work in my Pharo/Seaside web applications. > It just doesn't show up in my web browser. > I hope I've specified everything below clearly, completely and > succinctly. Has anyone else incorporated TinyMCE successfully? What am > I missing? What am I doing wrong? I use tinyMCE but I don't import the javascript code into the Seaside app. I put them on the web server in a given path and then in the Seaside code I put a reference to it: updateRoot: anHtmlRoot super updateRoot: anHtmlRoot. anHtmlRoot javascript resourceUrl: '/javascript/tiny_mce/tiny_mce.js' I use a resource url but you can use a full path by using url: (I think). Then in the text area component: script ^ ' tinyMCE.init({ mode : "textareas", theme : "advanced" }); ' and then something like: renderContentOn: html html label with: self session l10n text. html break. html textArea class: 'span-13'; rows: 6; on: #text of: self note And this activates the editor on all the text areas on the page. Hope this help. -- Miguel CobÃ¡ http://miguel.leugim.com.mx

May 12, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Request help in using any WYSIWYG Javascript editor, preferably TinyMCE

by Igor Stasenko

I don't know if it would help, but i think FireBug (for Firefox browser) will make your life much easier, to debug things and determine why it not works :) On 11 May 2010 23:57, Marco A. Gonzalez <marcoinc(a)mac.com> wrote: > Hi, I'm new to Pharo, and think that along with Seaside, it is so well > architected that it's compelling me to try it for professional web > development. > I've created a simple web application in Seaside into which I'd like to > incorporate a WYSIWYG Javascript editor for the HTML textarea tags so my > users can enter stylized text. I've used TinyMCE in the past in my > Java-based web apps, and it's been very simple to integrate. > SeeÂ http://tinymce.moxiecode.com/. > > However, I can't get it to work in my Pharo/Seaside web applications. It > just doesn't show up in my web browser. > I hope I've specified everything below clearly, completely and succinctly. > Has anyone else incorporated TinyMCE successfully? What am I missing? What > am I doing wrong? > > Below are the relevant snippets of code: > ---- > #updateRoot: anHtmlRoot > super updateRoot:anHtmlRoot. > > "Adds tinyMCE javascript code to the document with a 'script src=' > anHtmlRoot addScript: self tinyMCEJavascript. > > #tinyMCEJavascript > ^' > tinyMCE.init({ > // General options > // mode : "textareas", > > mode : "specific_textareas", > editor_selector : "useJavascriptWYSIWYGEditor", > > theme : "advanced", > plugins : > "safari,spellchecker,pagebreak,style,layer,table,save,advhr,advimage,advlink,emotions,iespell,inlinepopups,insertdatetime,preview,media,searchreplace,print,contextmenu,paste,directionality,fullscreen,noneditable,visualchars,nonbreaking,xhtmlxtras,template,imagemanager,filemanager", > > // Theme options > theme_advanced_buttons1 : > "save,newdocument,|,bold,italic,underline,strikethrough,|,justifyleft,justifycenter,justifyright,justifyfull,|,styleselect,formatselect,fontselect,fontsizeselect", > theme_advanced_buttons2 : > "cut,copy,paste,pastetext,pasteword,|,search,replace,|,bullist,numlist,|,outdent,indent,blockquote,|,undo,redo,|,link,unlink,anchor,image,cleanup,help,code,|,insertdate,inserttime,preview,|,forecolor,backcolor", > theme_advanced_buttons3 : > "tablecontrols,|,hr,removeformat,visualaid,|,sub,sup,|,charmap,emotions,iespell,media,advhr,|,print,|,ltr,rtl,|,fullscreen", > theme_advanced_buttons4 : > "insertlayer,moveforward,movebackward,absolute,|,styleprops,spellchecker,|,cite,abbr,acronym,del,ins,attribs,|,visualchars,nonbreaking,template,blockquote,pagebreak,|,insertfile,insertimage", > theme_advanced_toolbar_location : "top", > theme_advanced_toolbar_align : "left", > theme_advanced_statusbar_location : "bottom", > theme_advanced_resizing : true, > > // Example content CSS (should be your site CSS) > content_css : "css/example.css", > > // Drop lists for link/image/media/template dialogs > template_external_list_url : "js/template_list.js", > external_link_list_url : "js/link_list.js", > external_image_list_url : "js/image_list.js", > media_external_list_url : "js/media_list.js", > > // Replace values for the template plugin > template_replace_values : { > username : "Some User", > staffid : "991234" > } > }); > '. > > #renderContentOn: html > html document addLoadScript:'tinyMCE.init();'. > > html div class: 'AmagaviBNIEventEditor'; with: [ > html form multipart with: [ > html table class: 'rolodex'; with:[ > > html tableRow:[ > html tableHeading:'Descriptive text'. > html tableData:[ > html textArea > "class: 'content';" > class: 'useJavascriptWYSIWYGEditor'; > columns: '60'; > rows: '5'; > callback: [ :editedValue | self event descriptiveText: editedValue ]; > value: self event descriptiveText. > ]. > ]. "tableRow" > ]. "table" > > html submitButton > callback: [ self save. ]; > value: 'Save'. > > html submitButton > callback: [self cancel]; > value: 'Cancel'. > ]. "form" > ]. "div" > > ---- > > Using my web browser, when I "view source" to see the HTML, I appropriately > see the following HTML in between the <head></head> tags: > <script type="text/javascript" > src="/amagaviBNI?_s=UOMr33WyYGqoSDx0"></script> > > Copy/Pasting the "/amagaviBNI?_s=UOMr33WyYGqoSDx0" in my browser > appropriately shows the tinyMCE.init() javascript method that is referenced > by #tinyMCEJavascript. > > The textarea HTML appropriately shows > <textarea rows="5" cols="60" class="useJavascriptWYSIWYGEditor" > name="5">This is an event. </textarea> > > The body tag looks like this: > <body onload="onLoad()"> > > ... and right above the closing body tag, the HTML is... > <script type="text/javascript">/*<![CDATA[*/function > onLoad(){tinyMCE.init();}/*]]>*/</script></body> > > I'm using PharoCore1.0, Latest update: #10517 on a Macintosh MacBookPro with > OS X v10.5.8. > Using "printIt" on SmalltalkImage current vmVersion, I get > 'Squeak3.8.1 of ''28 Aug 2006'' [latest update: #6747] Squeak VM 4.2.2b1' > > I think I'm using Seaside 3.0a5 since I have a window entitled "Seaside > 3.0a5" but since I've used the World menu > System > Software update to > update my system, I don't know if it's been updated. I also don't know what > to evaluate to determine what actual version of Seaside I'm running so I'd > be grateful if someone could tell me how to do that too. If there's a newer > version of Seaside that I've not been getting using "Software update", then > would you tell me how to get the most recent, "usable" version also? > > Finally, thanks to everyone who has developed all the above-mentioned > components, as well as the people using Pharo and Seaside and have been > posting and answering questions. I hope to get to a point of expertise where > I can contribute as well. > > - Marco A. > --------- > Marco A. Gonzalez > web:Â http://www.amagavi.com/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

May 11, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Request help in using any WYSIWYG Javascript editor, preferably TinyMCE

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

hi marco welcome :) May be you should ask seaside questions to the seaside mailing-list? Because you will have a better chance to get an answer. stef On May 11, 2010, at 10:57 PM, Marco A. Gonzalez wrote: > Hi, I'm new to Pharo, and think that along with Seaside, it is so well architected that it's compelling me to try it for professional web development. > > I've created a simple web application in Seaside into which I'd like to incorporate a WYSIWYG Javascript editor for the HTML textarea tags so my users can enter stylized text. I've used TinyMCE in the past in my Java-based web apps, and it's been very simple to integrate. See http://tinymce.moxiecode.com/. > > However, I can't get it to work in my Pharo/Seaside web applications. It just doesn't show up in my web browser. > I hope I've specified everything below clearly, completely and succinctly. Has anyone else incorporated TinyMCE successfully? What am I missing? What am I doing wrong? > > Below are the relevant snippets of code: > ---- > #updateRoot: anHtmlRoot > super updateRoot:anHtmlRoot. > > "Adds tinyMCE javascript code to the document with a 'script src=' > anHtmlRoot addScript: self tinyMCEJavascript. > > #tinyMCEJavascript > ^' > tinyMCE.init({ > // General options > // mode : "textareas", > > mode : "specific_textareas", > editor_selector : "useJavascriptWYSIWYGEditor", > > theme : "advanced", > plugins : "safari,spellchecker,pagebreak,style,layer,table,save,advhr,advimage,advlink,emotions,iespell,inlinepopups,insertdatetime,preview,media,searchreplace,print,contextmenu,paste,directionality,fullscreen,noneditable,visualchars,nonbreaking,xhtmlxtras,template,imagemanager,filemanager", > > // Theme options > theme_advanced_buttons1 : "save,newdocument,|,bold,italic,underline,strikethrough,|,justifyleft,justifycenter,justifyright,justifyfull,|,styleselect,formatselect,fontselect,fontsizeselect", > theme_advanced_buttons2 : "cut,copy,paste,pastetext,pasteword,|,search,replace,|,bullist,numlist,|,outdent,indent,blockquote,|,undo,redo,|,link,unlink,anchor,image,cleanup,help,code,|,insertdate,inserttime,preview,|,forecolor,backcolor", > theme_advanced_buttons3 : "tablecontrols,|,hr,removeformat,visualaid,|,sub,sup,|,charmap,emotions,iespell,media,advhr,|,print,|,ltr,rtl,|,fullscreen", > theme_advanced_buttons4 : "insertlayer,moveforward,movebackward,absolute,|,styleprops,spellchecker,|,cite,abbr,acronym,del,ins,attribs,|,visualchars,nonbreaking,template,blockquote,pagebreak,|,insertfile,insertimage", > theme_advanced_toolbar_location : "top", > theme_advanced_toolbar_align : "left", > theme_advanced_statusbar_location : "bottom", > theme_advanced_resizing : true, > > // Example content CSS (should be your site CSS) > content_css : "css/example.css", > > // Drop lists for link/image/media/template dialogs > template_external_list_url : "js/template_list.js", > external_link_list_url : "js/link_list.js", > external_image_list_url : "js/image_list.js", > media_external_list_url : "js/media_list.js", > > // Replace values for the template plugin > template_replace_values : { > username : "Some User", > staffid : "991234" > } > }); > '. > > #renderContentOn: html > html document addLoadScript:'tinyMCE.init();'. > > html div class: 'AmagaviBNIEventEditor'; with: [ > html form multipart with: [ > html table class: 'rolodex'; with:[ > > html tableRow:[ > html tableHeading:'Descriptive text'. > html tableData:[ > html textArea > "class: 'content';" > class: 'useJavascriptWYSIWYGEditor'; > columns: '60'; > rows: '5'; > callback: [ :editedValue | self event descriptiveText: editedValue ]; > value: self event descriptiveText. > ]. > ]. "tableRow" > ]. "table" > > html submitButton > callback: [ self save. ]; > value: 'Save'. > > html submitButton > callback: [self cancel]; > value: 'Cancel'. > ]. "form" > ]. "div" > > ---- > > Using my web browser, when I "view source" to see the HTML, I appropriately see the following HTML in between the <head></head> tags: > <script type="text/javascript" src="/amagaviBNI?_s=UOMr33WyYGqoSDx0"></script> > > Copy/Pasting the "/amagaviBNI?_s=UOMr33WyYGqoSDx0" in my browser appropriately shows the tinyMCE.init() javascript method that is referenced by #tinyMCEJavascript. > > The textarea HTML appropriately shows > <textarea rows="5" cols="60" class="useJavascriptWYSIWYGEditor" name="5">This is an event. </textarea> > > The body tag looks like this: > <body onload="onLoad()"> > > ... and right above the closing body tag, the HTML is... > <script type="text/javascript">/*<![CDATA[*/function onLoad(){tinyMCE.init();}/*]]>*/</script></body> > > I'm using PharoCore1.0, Latest update: #10517 on a Macintosh MacBookPro with OS X v10.5.8. > Using "printIt" on SmalltalkImage current vmVersion, I get > 'Squeak3.8.1 of ''28 Aug 2006'' [latest update: #6747] Squeak VM 4.2.2b1' > > I think I'm using Seaside 3.0a5 since I have a window entitled "Seaside 3.0a5" but since I've used the World menu > System > Software update to update my system, I don't know if it's been updated. I also don't know what to evaluate to determine what actual version of Seaside I'm running so I'd be grateful if someone could tell me how to do that too. If there's a newer version of Seaside that I've not been getting using "Software update", then would you tell me how to get the most recent, "usable" version also? > > Finally, thanks to everyone who has developed all the above-mentioned components, as well as the people using Pharo and Seaside and have been posting and answering questions. I hope to get to a point of expertise where I can contribute as well. > > - Marco A. > --------- > Marco A. Gonzalez > web: http://www.amagavi.com/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users

May 11, 2010

Request help in using any WYSIWYG Javascript editor, preferably TinyMCE

by Marco A. Gonzalez

Hi, I'm new to Pharo, and think that along with Seaside, it is so well architected that it's compelling me to try it for professional web development. I've created a simple web application in Seaside into which I'd like to incorporate a WYSIWYG Javascript editor for the HTML textarea tags so my users can enter stylized text. I've used TinyMCE in the past in my Java-based web apps, and it's been very simple to integrate. See http://tinymce.moxiecode.com/ . However, I can't get it to work in my Pharo/Seaside web applications. It just doesn't show up in my web browser. I hope I've specified everything below clearly, completely and succinctly. Has anyone else incorporated TinyMCE successfully? What am I missing? What am I doing wrong? Below are the relevant snippets of code: ---- #updateRoot: anHtmlRoot super updateRoot:anHtmlRoot. "Adds tinyMCE javascript code to the document with a 'script src=' anHtmlRoot addScript: self tinyMCEJavascript. #tinyMCEJavascript ^' tinyMCE.init({ // General options // mode : "textareas", mode : "specific_textareas", editor_selector : "useJavascriptWYSIWYGEditor", theme : "advanced", plugins : "safari,spellchecker,pagebreak,style,layer,table,save,advhr,advimage,advlink,emotions,iespell,inlinepopups,insertdatetime,preview,media,searchreplace,print,contextmenu,paste,directionality,fullscreen,noneditable,visualchars,nonbreaking,xhtmlxtras,template,imagemanager,filemanager", // Theme options theme_advanced_buttons1 : "save ,newdocument ,| ,bold ,italic ,underline ,strikethrough ,| ,justifyleft ,justifycenter ,justifyright ,justifyfull,|,styleselect,formatselect,fontselect,fontsizeselect", theme_advanced_buttons2 : "cut ,copy ,paste ,pastetext ,pasteword ,| ,search ,replace ,| ,bullist ,numlist ,| ,outdent ,indent ,blockquote ,| ,undo ,redo ,| ,link ,unlink ,anchor ,image ,cleanup ,help,code,|,insertdate,inserttime,preview,|,forecolor,backcolor", theme_advanced_buttons3 : "tablecontrols ,| ,hr ,removeformat ,visualaid ,| ,sub ,sup ,|,charmap,emotions,iespell,media,advhr,|,print,|,ltr,rtl,|,fullscreen", theme_advanced_buttons4 : "insertlayer ,moveforward ,movebackward ,absolute ,| ,styleprops ,spellchecker ,| ,cite ,abbr ,acronym ,del ,ins ,attribs ,| ,visualchars ,nonbreaking,template,blockquote,pagebreak,|,insertfile,insertimage", theme_advanced_toolbar_location : "top", theme_advanced_toolbar_align : "left", theme_advanced_statusbar_location : "bottom", theme_advanced_resizing : true, // Example content CSS (should be your site CSS) content_css : "css/example.css", // Drop lists for link/image/media/template dialogs template_external_list_url : "js/template_list.js", external_link_list_url : "js/link_list.js", external_image_list_url : "js/image_list.js", media_external_list_url : "js/media_list.js", // Replace values for the template plugin template_replace_values : { username : "Some User", staffid : "991234" } }); '. #renderContentOn: html html document addLoadScript:'tinyMCE.init();'. html div class: 'AmagaviBNIEventEditor'; with: [ html form multipart with: [ html table class: 'rolodex'; with:[ html tableRow:[ html tableHeading:'Descriptive text'. html tableData:[ html textArea "class: 'content';" class: 'useJavascriptWYSIWYGEditor'; columns: '60'; rows: '5'; callback: [ :editedValue | self event descriptiveText: editedValue ]; value: self event descriptiveText. ]. ]. "tableRow" ]. "table" html submitButton callback: [ self save. ]; value: 'Save'. html submitButton callback: [self cancel]; value: 'Cancel'. ]. "form" ]. "div" ---- Using my web browser, when I "view source" to see the HTML, I appropriately see the following HTML in between the <head></head> tags: <script type="text/javascript" src="/amagaviBNI? _s=UOMr33WyYGqoSDx0"></script> Copy/Pasting the "/amagaviBNI?_s=UOMr33WyYGqoSDx0" in my browser appropriately shows the tinyMCE.init() javascript method that is referenced by #tinyMCEJavascript. The textarea HTML appropriately shows <textarea rows="5" cols="60" class="useJavascriptWYSIWYGEditor" name="5">This is an event. </textarea> The body tag looks like this: <body onload="onLoad()"> ... and right above the closing body tag, the HTML is... <script type="text/javascript">/*<![CDATA[*/function onLoad() {tinyMCE.init();}/*]]>*/</script></body> I'm using PharoCore1.0, Latest update: #10517 on a Macintosh MacBookPro with OS X v10.5.8. Using "printIt" on SmalltalkImage current vmVersion, I get 'Squeak3.8.1 of ''28 Aug 2006'' [latest update: #6747] Squeak VM 4.2.2b1' I think I'm using Seaside 3.0a5 since I have a window entitled "Seaside 3.0a5" but since I've used the World menu > System > Software update to update my system, I don't know if it's been updated. I also don't know what to evaluate to determine what actual version of Seaside I'm running so I'd be grateful if someone could tell me how to do that too. If there's a newer version of Seaside that I've not been getting using "Software update", then would you tell me how to get the most recent, "usable" version also? Finally, thanks to everyone who has developed all the above-mentioned components, as well as the people using Pharo and Seaside and have been posting and answering questions. I hope to get to a point of expertise where I can contribute as well. - Marco A. --------- Marco A. Gonzalez web: http://www.amagavi.com/

May 11, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] ecompletion - smart characters

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

I saw but I want that on http://book.pharo-project.org On May 11, 2010, at 10:41 AM, Lukas Renggli wrote: > See http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2407. > > Lukas > > On 11 May 2010 10:39, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> mariano >> >> can you create a page on the book with that? >> >> Stef >> >> On May 11, 2010, at 12:18 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:04 AM, Ron Jeffries <ronjeffries(a)acm.org> wrote: >>> Hello, Tudor. On Monday, May 10, 2010, at 5:38:07 PM, you wrote: >>> >>>> If I understood correctly it is about the matching of brackets and >>>> quotes. In this regard, the completion behaves exactly like TextMate. >>> >>>> So, why is this a bug? >>> >>> How do you manage to type a single quote in TextMate? Does that work >>> in Pharo? >>> >>> >>> Good question. But I don't know. This "feature" is from the package Shout that is installed in Pharo dev images. If you take a PharoCore for example, it doesn't happen. >>> >>> I keep winding up with too many right parens. It is possible that I >>> am typing too many. My suspicion is that Pharo is providing too >>> many. >>> >>> This is how it works: >>> >>> 1) when you type the LEFT side of: { , [ , ( , " , ' etc .... it will AUTOMATICALLY open the other pair. This is because this is usually the case: you open the left one, you will probably need to open the right one. >>> >>> 2) when you type the RIGHT side, it only writes the right side. >>> >>> 3) When you remove a left side of the two recently created ( like 1) ) , just after creating it, it removes both of them: left and right >>> >>> >>> Let me remark something. The style to work with this tool, is not to go to left, type, then go to right, and type. I mean, suppose I have this >>> >>> Transcript show: 5 timesRepeat: ['something'] >>> >>> and I need to have it like this: >>> >>> >>> Transcript show: (5 timesRepeat: ['something']) >>> >>> the whay to work with Pharo is not: >>> >>> Transcript show: (5 timesRepeat: ['something'] >>> >>> then >>> >>> Transcript show: (5 timesRepeat: ['something']) >>> >>> The idea is that you FIRST select the code you want, and then, you press the LEFT side of what you want. In that case, you select "5 timesRepeat: ['something']" and with that selected you press "(" . And the same with all those characters. >>> >>> It is difficult to explain by chat hahahaha. I think they are very very useful, but you have to get use to. When I started with Pharo I was still a java developer..so I was the whole day with Eclipse and then at night with Pharo...and it was incredible how I was trying to work this way in Eclipse, in gmail, in TextEdit etc hahahahha >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Mariano >>> >>> >>> >>> Ron Jeffries >>> www.XProgramming.com >>> www.xprogramming.com/blog >>> New and stirring things are belittled because if they are not belittled, >>> the humiliating question arises, "Why then are you not taking part in >>> them?" -- H. G. Wells >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-users mailing list >>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-users mailing list >>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-users mailing list >> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >> > > > > -- > Lukas Renggli > www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users

May 11, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] ecompletion - smart characters

by Lukas Renggli

Yes, of course :-) Lukas On 11 May 2010 10:43, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> See http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2407. >> > > I thought it was Shout who did that...is ECompletion instead ? > > >> >> Lukas >> >> On 11 May 2010 10:39, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> > mariano >> > >> > can you create a page on the book with that? >> > >> > Stef >> > >> > On May 11, 2010, at 12:18 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:04 AM, Ron Jeffries <ronjeffries(a)acm.org> >> >> wrote: >> >> Hello, Tudor. Â On Monday, May 10, 2010, at 5:38:07 PM, you wrote: >> >> >> >> > If I understood correctly it is about the matching of brackets and >> >> > quotes. In this regard, the completion behaves exactly like TextMate. >> >> >> >> > So, why is this a bug? >> >> >> >> How do you manage to type a single quote in TextMate? Does that work >> >> in Pharo? >> >> >> >> >> >> Good question. But I don't know. This "feature" is from the package >> >> Shout that is installed in Pharo dev images. If you take a PharoCore for >> >> example, it doesn't happen. >> >> >> >> I keep winding up with too many right parens. It is possible that I >> >> am typing too many. My suspicion is that Pharo is providing too >> >> many. >> >> >> >> This is how it works: >> >> >> >> 1) when you type the LEFT side of: Â { , [ Â , ( , " , ' Â Â etc .... it >> >> will AUTOMATICALLY open the other pair. This is because this is usually the >> >> case: you open the left one, you will probably need to open the right one. >> >> >> >> 2) when you type the RIGHT side, it only writes the right side. >> >> >> >> 3) When you remove a left side of the two recently created ( like 1) ) >> >> , just after creating it, it removes both of them: left and right >> >> >> >> >> >> Let me remark something. The style to work with this tool, is not to go >> >> to left, type, then go to right, and type. I mean, suppose I have Â this >> >> >> >> Transcript show: 5 timesRepeat: ['something'] >> >> >> >> and I need to have it like this: >> >> >> >> >> >> Transcript show: (5 timesRepeat: ['something']) >> >> >> >> the whay to work with Pharo is not: >> >> >> >> Transcript show: (5 timesRepeat: ['something'] >> >> >> >> then >> >> >> >> Transcript show: (5 timesRepeat: ['something']) >> >> >> >> The idea is that you FIRST select the code you want, and then, you >> >> press the LEFT side of what you want. In that case, you select "5 >> >> timesRepeat: ['something']" and with that selected you press "(" . And the >> >> same with all those characters. >> >> >> >> It is difficult to explain by chat hahahaha. I think they are very very >> >> useful, but you have to get use to. When I started with Pharo I was still a >> >> java developer..so I was the whole day with Eclipse and then at night with >> >> Pharo...and it was incredible how I was trying to work this way in Eclipse, >> >> in gmail, in TextEdit etc hahahahha >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> >> >> Mariano >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Ron Jeffries >> >> www.XProgramming.com >> >> www.xprogramming.com/blog >> >> New and stirring things are belittled because if they are not >> >> belittled, >> >> the humiliating question arises, "Why then are you not taking part in >> >> them?" Â -- H. G. Wells >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Pharo-users mailing list >> >> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Pharo-users mailing list >> >> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Pharo-users mailing list >> > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Lukas Renggli >> www.lukas-renggli.ch >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-users mailing list >> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

May 11, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] ecompletion - smart characters

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com> wrote: > See http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2407. > > I thought it was Shout who did that...is ECompletion instead ? > Lukas > > On 11 May 2010 10:39, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > mariano > > > > can you create a page on the book with that? > > > > Stef > > > > On May 11, 2010, at 12:18 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:04 AM, Ron Jeffries <ronjeffries(a)acm.org> > wrote: > >> Hello, Tudor. On Monday, May 10, 2010, at 5:38:07 PM, you wrote: > >> > >> > If I understood correctly it is about the matching of brackets and > >> > quotes. In this regard, the completion behaves exactly like TextMate. > >> > >> > So, why is this a bug? > >> > >> How do you manage to type a single quote in TextMate? Does that work > >> in Pharo? > >> > >> > >> Good question. But I don't know. This "feature" is from the package > Shout that is installed in Pharo dev images. If you take a PharoCore for > example, it doesn't happen. > >> > >> I keep winding up with too many right parens. It is possible that I > >> am typing too many. My suspicion is that Pharo is providing too > >> many. > >> > >> This is how it works: > >> > >> 1) when you type the LEFT side of: { , [ , ( , " , ' etc .... it > will AUTOMATICALLY open the other pair. This is because this is usually the > case: you open the left one, you will probably need to open the right one. > >> > >> 2) when you type the RIGHT side, it only writes the right side. > >> > >> 3) When you remove a left side of the two recently created ( like 1) ) , > just after creating it, it removes both of them: left and right > >> > >> > >> Let me remark something. The style to work with this tool, is not to go > to left, type, then go to right, and type. I mean, suppose I have this > >> > >> Transcript show: 5 timesRepeat: ['something'] > >> > >> and I need to have it like this: > >> > >> > >> Transcript show: (5 timesRepeat: ['something']) > >> > >> the whay to work with Pharo is not: > >> > >> Transcript show: (5 timesRepeat: ['something'] > >> > >> then > >> > >> Transcript show: (5 timesRepeat: ['something']) > >> > >> The idea is that you FIRST select the code you want, and then, you press > the LEFT side of what you want. In that case, you select "5 timesRepeat: > ['something']" and with that selected you press "(" . And the same with all > those characters. > >> > >> It is difficult to explain by chat hahahaha. I think they are very very > useful, but you have to get use to. When I started with Pharo I was still a > java developer..so I was the whole day with Eclipse and then at night with > Pharo...and it was incredible how I was trying to work this way in Eclipse, > in gmail, in TextEdit etc hahahahha > >> > >> Cheers > >> > >> Mariano > >> > >> > >> > >> Ron Jeffries > >> www.XProgramming.com > >> www.xprogramming.com/blog > >> New and stirring things are belittled because if they are not belittled, > >> the humiliating question arises, "Why then are you not taking part in > >> them?" -- H. G. Wells > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-users mailing list > >> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-users mailing list > >> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-users mailing list > > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > > > > -- > Lukas Renggli > www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >

May 11, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] ecompletion - smart characters

by Lukas Renggli

See http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2407. Lukas On 11 May 2010 10:39, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > mariano > > can you create a page on the book with that? > > Stef > > On May 11, 2010, at 12:18 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > >> >> >> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:04 AM, Ron Jeffries <ronjeffries(a)acm.org> wrote: >> Hello, Tudor. Â On Monday, May 10, 2010, at 5:38:07 PM, you wrote: >> >> > If I understood correctly it is about the matching of brackets and >> > quotes. In this regard, the completion behaves exactly like TextMate. >> >> > So, why is this a bug? >> >> How do you manage to type a single quote in TextMate? Does that work >> in Pharo? >> >> >> Good question. But I don't know. This "feature" is from the package Shout that is installed in Pharo dev images. If you take a PharoCore for example, it doesn't happen. >> >> I keep winding up with too many right parens. It is possible that I >> am typing too many. My suspicion is that Pharo is providing too >> many. >> >> This is how it works: >> >> 1) when you type the LEFT side of: Â { , [ Â , ( , " , ' Â Â etc .... it will AUTOMATICALLY open the other pair. This is because this is usually the case: you open the left one, you will probably need to open the right one. >> >> 2) when you type the RIGHT side, it only writes the right side. >> >> 3) When you remove a left side of the two recently created ( like 1) ) , just after creating it, it removes both of them: left and right >> >> >> Let me remark something. The style to work with this tool, is not to go to left, type, then go to right, and type. I mean, suppose I have Â this >> >> Transcript show: 5 timesRepeat: ['something'] >> >> and I need to have it like this: >> >> >> Transcript show: (5 timesRepeat: ['something']) >> >> the whay to work with Pharo is not: >> >> Transcript show: (5 timesRepeat: ['something'] >> >> then >> >> Transcript show: (5 timesRepeat: ['something']) >> >> The idea is that you FIRST select the code you want, and then, you press the LEFT side of what you want. In that case, you select "5 timesRepeat: ['something']" and with that selected you press "(" . And the same with all those characters. >> >> It is difficult to explain by chat hahahaha. I think they are very very useful, but you have to get use to. When I started with Pharo I was still a java developer..so I was the whole day with Eclipse and then at night with Pharo...and it was incredible how I was trying to work this way in Eclipse, in gmail, in TextEdit etc hahahahha >> >> Cheers >> >> Mariano >> >> >> >> Ron Jeffries >> www.XProgramming.com >> www.xprogramming.com/blog >> New and stirring things are belittled because if they are not belittled, >> the humiliating question arises, "Why then are you not taking part in >> them?" Â -- H. G. Wells >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-users mailing list >> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-users mailing list >> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

May 11, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] ecompletion - smart characters

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

mariano can you create a page on the book with that? Stef On May 11, 2010, at 12:18 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:04 AM, Ron Jeffries <ronjeffries(a)acm.org> wrote: > Hello, Tudor. On Monday, May 10, 2010, at 5:38:07 PM, you wrote: > > > If I understood correctly it is about the matching of brackets and > > quotes. In this regard, the completion behaves exactly like TextMate. > > > So, why is this a bug? > > How do you manage to type a single quote in TextMate? Does that work > in Pharo? > > > Good question. But I don't know. This "feature" is from the package Shout that is installed in Pharo dev images. If you take a PharoCore for example, it doesn't happen. > > I keep winding up with too many right parens. It is possible that I > am typing too many. My suspicion is that Pharo is providing too > many. > > This is how it works: > > 1) when you type the LEFT side of: { , [ , ( , " , ' etc .... it will AUTOMATICALLY open the other pair. This is because this is usually the case: you open the left one, you will probably need to open the right one. > > 2) when you type the RIGHT side, it only writes the right side. > > 3) When you remove a left side of the two recently created ( like 1) ) , just after creating it, it removes both of them: left and right > > > Let me remark something. The style to work with this tool, is not to go to left, type, then go to right, and type. I mean, suppose I have this > > Transcript show: 5 timesRepeat: ['something'] > > and I need to have it like this: > > > Transcript show: (5 timesRepeat: ['something']) > > the whay to work with Pharo is not: > > Transcript show: (5 timesRepeat: ['something'] > > then > > Transcript show: (5 timesRepeat: ['something']) > > The idea is that you FIRST select the code you want, and then, you press the LEFT side of what you want. In that case, you select "5 timesRepeat: ['something']" and with that selected you press "(" . And the same with all those characters. > > It is difficult to explain by chat hahahaha. I think they are very very useful, but you have to get use to. When I started with Pharo I was still a java developer..so I was the whole day with Eclipse and then at night with Pharo...and it was incredible how I was trying to work this way in Eclipse, in gmail, in TextEdit etc hahahahha > > Cheers > > Mariano > > > > Ron Jeffries > www.XProgramming.com > www.xprogramming.com/blog > New and stirring things are belittled because if they are not belittled, > the humiliating question arises, "Why then are you not taking part in > them?" -- H. G. Wells > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users

May 11, 2010