December 2010 - Pharo-users

Re: [Pharo-users] Installing Morphic UI designer in Pharo 1.1

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 9:05 PM, Charles Monteiro <charles(a)nycsmalltalk.org>wrote: > > Pardon the newbie question but I yet don't have a grip how Squeaker's load > packages , it seems that there are many, many ways of doing so. Hi Charles. We need to be clear in something: indeed, there are too many things to install. So....you can use Installer or Gofer to script your installation in code, but you can still use the normal Monticello Browser. Installer is not loaded in Pharo, so I suggest: a) Use Monticello Browser: open it, new repository -> MetacelloRepository, you search ConfigurationOfDesigner, select it, and then load. Just like lading any other monticello package. Easy. b) Script it. With Gofer, you can do: Gofer new repository: ' http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/hirschfeld/squeaksource/MetacelloRepository'; package: 'ConfigurationOfDesigner'; load. Once you did a) or b) evaluate: ConfigurationOfDesigner load. Cheers Mariano > In anycase, > to my immediate need I would like to check out Morphic Designer. I've tried > following the instructions on their web site which are: > > (Installer mc http: > 'http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/hirschfeld/squeaksource/') > project: 'MetacelloRepository'; > install: 'ConfigurationOfDesigner'. > ConfigurationOfDesigner load. > > However, on the Pharo 1.1. image under Cog VM, there is no such animal as > an > "Installer", I tried using the Monticello Browser and went fishing for the > package but to no avail. > > thanks in advance > > Charles > www.nycsmalltalk.org > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Installing-Morphic-UI-designer-in-Pharo-1-1-tp3093047… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >

Dec. 17, 2010

Installing Morphic UI designer in Pharo 1.1

by Charles Monteiro

Pardon the newbie question but I yet don't have a grip how Squeaker's load packages , it seems that there are many, many ways of doing so. In anycase, to my immediate need I would like to check out Morphic Designer. I've tried following the instructions on their web site which are: (Installer mc http: 'http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/hirschfeld/squeaksource/') project: 'MetacelloRepository'; install: 'ConfigurationOfDesigner'. ConfigurationOfDesigner load. However, on the Pharo 1.1. image under Cog VM, there is no such animal as an "Installer", I tried using the Monticello Browser and went fishing for the package but to no avail. thanks in advance Charles www.nycsmalltalk.org -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Installing-Morphic-UI-designer-in-Pharo-1-1-tp3093047… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Dec. 17, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Unicode in Pharo1.1

by Stanislav Paskalev

Hi Alex, http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download - scroll down to Virtual Machines and pick the one for your platform. Best regards, Stanislav Paskalev On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 6:05 PM, qpogo <alex.albitov(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Staniskav hi, > > Yes I use CogVM. Where do I download standard VM? > > Thank you, > Alex > > > solar_sea wrote: >> >> Hi, >> I also have to write in cyrilic in pharo 1.1 / 1.1.1 and it works. >> >> You have to first update the fonts from system and then set new, >> unicode enabled fonts on all the elements. Updating the fonts just >> adds them to a list of known fonts, it doesn't make the image to use >> them in other words. >> Also, with the latest build (4 oct) of CogVM, updating fonts from >> system does not work on any system (win,mac,linux) - so use the >> standart VM. >> >> Best regards, >> Stanislav Paskalev >> >> >> >> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 5:45 PM, qpogo <alex.albitov(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> Hi all, I'm a real newbie in Pharo and Smalltalk. I want to type in >>> Cyrillic >>> and Hebrew. However I get question marks. I tried to change fonts, but I >>> have only to available fonts: * Accuny * Bitmap DejaVu Sans Which don't >>> have >>> Unicode glyphs. When I try to update fonts from the system, I don't see >>> any >>> result. Thank you. Alex >>> ________________________________ >>> View this message in context: Unicode in Pharo1.1 >>> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>> >> >> >> > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Unicode-in-Pharo1-1-tp3092706p3092726.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >

Dec. 17, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Unicode in Pharo1.1

by qpogo

Staniskav hi, Yes I use CogVM. Where do I download standard VM? Thank you, Alex solar_sea wrote: > > Hi, > I also have to write in cyrilic in pharo 1.1 / 1.1.1 and it works. > > You have to first update the fonts from system and then set new, > unicode enabled fonts on all the elements. Updating the fonts just > adds them to a list of known fonts, it doesn't make the image to use > them in other words. > Also, with the latest build (4 oct) of CogVM, updating fonts from > system does not work on any system (win,mac,linux) - so use the > standart VM. > > Best regards, > Stanislav Paskalev > > > > On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 5:45 PM, qpogo <alex.albitov(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi all, I'm a real newbie in Pharo and Smalltalk. I want to type in >> Cyrillic >> and Hebrew. However I get question marks. I tried to change fonts, but I >> have only to available fonts: * Accuny * Bitmap DejaVu Sans Which don't >> have >> Unicode glyphs. When I try to update fonts from the system, I don't see >> any >> result. Thank you. Alex >> ________________________________ >> View this message in context: Unicode in Pharo1.1 >> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> > > > -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Unicode-in-Pharo1-1-tp3092706p3092726.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Dec. 17, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Unicode in Pharo1.1

by Stanislav Paskalev

Hi, I also have to write in cyrilic in pharo 1.1 / 1.1.1 and it works. You have to first update the fonts from system and then set new, unicode enabled fonts on all the elements. Updating the fonts just adds them to a list of known fonts, it doesn't make the image to use them in other words. Also, with the latest build (4 oct) of CogVM, updating fonts from system does not work on any system (win,mac,linux) - so use the standart VM. Best regards, Stanislav Paskalev On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 5:45 PM, qpogo <alex.albitov(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, I'm a real newbie in Pharo and Smalltalk. I want to type in Cyrillic > and Hebrew. However I get question marks. I tried to change fonts, but I > have only to available fonts: * Accuny * Bitmap DejaVu Sans Which don't have > Unicode glyphs. When I try to update fonts from the system, I don't see any > result. Thank you. Alex > ________________________________ > View this message in context: Unicode in Pharo1.1 > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

Dec. 17, 2010

Unicode in Pharo1.1

by qpogo

Hi all, I'm a real newbie in Pharo and Smalltalk. I want to type in Cyrillic and Hebrew. However I get question marks. I tried to change fonts, but I have only to available fonts: * Accuny * Bitmap DejaVu Sans Which don't have Unicode glyphs. When I try to update fonts from the system, I don't see any result. Thank you. Alex -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Unicode-in-Pharo1-1-tp3092706p3092706.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Dec. 17, 2010

serial driver

by Annick Fron

Hi; Is there a serial driver for linux in Pharo ? Annick Fron

Dec. 17, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Money AND Feature requests

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

yes and for that you need an association... On Dec 14, 2010, at 8:50 PM, laurent laffont wrote: > It seems the bank account is the only obstacle to go forward ? > > Laurent > > On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 1:21 PM, andres <andres(a)lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> wrote: > Hi, sorry for being disconnected for a couple of days. > > I think the idea of raising money for supporting feature requests is really cool. And sure, I volunteer to setup a UserVoirce account. So, if we are all ok with it I'll be setting it up at some point between today and tomorrow. > > Regarding the founding process both kickstarter and pledgie looks nice. From the FAQ it seems that kickstarter needs an US bank account, don't know if that may be an issue. > > Cheers, > AndrÃ©s > > laurent laffont escribiÃ³: > > Yes I think it's good to have a real Pharo entity / status / association loi > 1901. > > For architecture, as AndrÃ©s said he/we can set a UserVoice. For raising > money http://pledgie.com/. > > As for Flattr the idea is good but it seems to raise only little money > actually (feedback from pharobyexample and pharocasts. But we haven't tried > to encourage people to donate). > > Laurent. > > > On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 10:20 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < > stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > On Dec 10, 2010, at 11:00 PM, laurent laffont wrote: > > Thinking again about this idea of voting system for features we would > like to see in Pharo. > I won't pay 10 euros / month for someone to develop full time on Pharo on > what I do not control (may not be the best words to explain my feelings :) > But I'm ready to give 30 to 50 euros to raise money to develop the most > wanted feature from a voting system. This give more visibility. > It's easier to make a one shot donation than give XXeuros/month. > Good! > Tell us what architecture we can use for that. I should find some time to > build a association of loi 1901 and get a paypal account for pharo. > > > > So one way to achieve this is to set up a voting system AND associated > raising money system to develop the most wanted feature for one month. > Another way is to pick the most wanted feature for Google Summer of code. > Don't expect anything from it > > With enough money one can stop his work for one month and develop > exclusively for Pharo. If it's too hard to raise money for one month, we can > try 15 days. I've seen that some great developers can do fantastic stuff in > 15 days when he loves it :) > Laurent Laffont > > On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > On 10 December 2010 13:32, Davorin Rusevljan > <davorin.rusevljan(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Alan Rodas <alanrodas(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > I'm relatively new to Pharo, maybe this has been tried before, but > what > about a forum where the ideas are published. > Each idea could be a thread in the forum, and the people that would > like to > contribute may comment there. What it may be interesting is that the > whole > discussion about an idea could live in the thread, and you can keep > track of > old discussions and the state of a feature. > If you keep your ideas for yourself, and you cannot implement > something by > your own, that idea will die there. If you allow people to comment on > ideas, > maybe two or more people have the same, and they can start working on > it together. A forum allows for contacting people, and sharing, and, > in that > way, maybe the community will grow (Some developers feel they can do > something because they don't have the time to do it by their own, or > they > don't have the skills, but they can help to a dev team that share the > same > goals.) > > > Is just a thought. > If you did it before and didn't work, my apologies. > Well, those are all nice thoughts. I am also relatively new to Pharo > though, I am with Smalltalk for quite a long time. In my humble > opinion, while both are always nice to have, at this stage Pharo, much > needs more hands willing to do the work, than hands filling the wish > lists and voting about them. > Abso-freakin-lutely! :) > > The Pharo team did marvelous job, I assume with a lot of investment of > their personal time and energy. They also did quite good job at > setting their targets since they already managed at transforming huge > but sometimes hectic Squeak core into consistent development product. > > The way things currently work nicely reflect this, you can freely > float your ideas on the mailing list, but do not expect that someone > else should do it just because of that. But the better the idea is, > and the larger your contribution to Pharo is, chances of it being > implemented will rise. Otherwise, roll up your sleeves, and do it for > yourself. If that is too complicated, consider doing something else > simpler but usefull. > > I am always discussing ideas before going to implement them. > And for things i do, if i not sure if i doing the best way, or there > are multiple 'nice' > ways to solve the problem, i asking people, what they prefer. > In that way people staying in course of what i do, and sometimes could > give an advice or help by > other means. > But i don't expecting much, because we all busy with own agendas. > > rush > http://www.cloud208.com/ > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. > > > > > > >

Dec. 14, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Money AND Feature requests

by laurent laffont

It seems the bank account is the only obstacle to go forward ? Laurent On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 1:21 PM, andres <andres(a)lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar>wrote: > Hi, sorry for being disconnected for a couple of days. > > I think the idea of raising money for supporting feature requests is really > cool. And sure, I volunteer to setup a UserVoirce account. So, if we are all > ok with it I'll be setting it up at some point between today and tomorrow. > > Regarding the founding process both kickstarter and pledgie looks nice. > From the FAQ it seems that kickstarter needs an US bank account, don't know > if that may be an issue. > Cheers, > AndrÃ©s > > laurent laffont escribiÃ³: > > Yes I think it's good to have a real Pharo entity / status / association >> loi >> 1901. >> >> For architecture, as AndrÃ©s said he/we can set a UserVoice. For raising >> money http://pledgie.com/. >> >> As for Flattr the idea is good but it seems to raise only little money >> actually (feedback from pharobyexample and pharocasts. But we haven't >> tried >> to encourage people to donate). >> >> Laurent. >> >> >> On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 10:20 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < >> stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> >> On Dec 10, 2010, at 11:00 PM, laurent laffont wrote: >>> >>> Thinking again about this idea of voting system for features we would >>>> >>> like to see in Pharo. >>> >>>> I won't pay 10 euros / month for someone to develop full time on Pharo >>>> on >>>> >>> what I do not control (may not be the best words to explain my feelings >>> :) >>> >>>> But I'm ready to give 30 to 50 euros to raise money to develop the most >>>> >>> wanted feature from a voting system. This give more visibility. >>> >>>> It's easier to make a one shot donation than give XXeuros/month. >>>> >>> Good! >>> Tell us what architecture we can use for that. I should find some time to >>> build a association of loi 1901 and get a paypal account for pharo. >>> >>> >>> >>> So one way to achieve this is to set up a voting system AND associated >>>> >>> raising money system to develop the most wanted feature for one month. >>> >>>> Another way is to pick the most wanted feature for Google Summer of >>>> code. >>>> >>> Don't expect anything from it >>> >>> With enough money one can stop his work for one month and develop >>>> >>> exclusively for Pharo. If it's too hard to raise money for one month, we >>> can >>> try 15 days. I've seen that some great developers can do fantastic stuff >>> in >>> 15 days when he loves it :) >>> >>>> Laurent Laffont >>>> >>>> On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> >>>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On 10 December 2010 13:32, Davorin Rusevljan >>>> <davorin.rusevljan(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Alan Rodas <alanrodas(a)gmail.com> >>>>> >>>> wrote: >>> >>>> I'm relatively new to Pharo, maybe this has been tried before, but >>>>>> >>>>> what >>> >>>> about a forum where the ideas are published. >>>>>> Each idea could be a thread in the forum, and the people that would >>>>>> >>>>> like to >>> >>>> contribute may comment there. What it may be interesting is that the >>>>>> >>>>> whole >>> >>>> discussion about an idea could live in the thread, and you can keep >>>>>> >>>>> track of >>> >>>> old discussions and the state of a feature. >>>>>> If you keep your ideas for yourself, and you cannot implement >>>>>> >>>>> something by >>> >>>> your own, that idea will die there. If you allow people to comment on >>>>>> >>>>> ideas, >>> >>>> maybe two or more people have the same, and they can start working on >>>>>> it together. A forum allows for contacting people, and sharing, and, >>>>>> >>>>> in that >>> >>>> way, maybe the community will grow (Some developers feel they can do >>>>>> something because they don't have the time to do it by their own, or >>>>>> >>>>> they >>> >>>> don't have the skills, but they can help to a dev team that share the >>>>>> >>>>> same >>> >>>> goals.) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Is just a thought. >>>>>> If you did it before and didn't work, my apologies. >>>>>> >>>>> Well, those are all nice thoughts. I am also relatively new to Pharo >>>>> though, I am with Smalltalk for quite a long time. In my humble >>>>> opinion, while both are always nice to have, at this stage Pharo, much >>>>> needs more hands willing to do the work, than hands filling the wish >>>>> lists and voting about them. >>>>> >>>> Abso-freakin-lutely! :) >>>> >>>> The Pharo team did marvelous job, I assume with a lot of investment of >>>>> their personal time and energy. They also did quite good job at >>>>> setting their targets since they already managed at transforming huge >>>>> but sometimes hectic Squeak core into consistent development product. >>>>> >>>>> The way things currently work nicely reflect this, you can freely >>>>> float your ideas on the mailing list, but do not expect that someone >>>>> else should do it just because of that. But the better the idea is, >>>>> and the larger your contribution to Pharo is, chances of it being >>>>> implemented will rise. Otherwise, roll up your sleeves, and do it for >>>>> yourself. If that is too complicated, consider doing something else >>>>> simpler but usefull. >>>>> >>>>> I am always discussing ideas before going to implement them. >>>> And for things i do, if i not sure if i doing the best way, or there >>>> are multiple 'nice' >>>> ways to solve the problem, i asking people, what they prefer. >>>> In that way people staying in course of what i do, and sometimes could >>>> give an advice or help by >>>> other means. >>>> But i don't expecting much, because we all busy with own agendas. >>>> >>>> rush >>>>> http://www.cloud208.com/ >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Best regards, >>>> Igor Stasenko AKA sig. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >

Dec. 14, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Cassandra Database access question

by Miguel CobÃ¡

I already answered his mail personally. Hasn't heard of his though since then. I copy paste the answer here: El lun, 13-12-2010 a las 17:39 +0530, nithiya nithiya escribiÃ³: > Sir, > > I follow the web link http://miguel.leugim.com.mx/index.php/tag/pharo/. > I installed the Pharo smalltalk for Accessing Cassandra Database. > > > PharoCore images and thrift0.4.0,cassandra0.6.6 are downloaded. > > Can you please help me ,how to load the cassandra.st,thrift.st images in the pharo. Sure, but I prefer to answer this on the Pharo mailing list, so that a record remains for other users to read. So, to load a smalltalk file, you need to "file-in" its source code into the image. This is done in Pharo the following way: 1. Open your image. 2. Open world menu (in linux is left-click) 3. Select the Tools menu 4. Choose the File Browser 5. In the window that appears navigate to the directory where the .st files are 6. When you select a .st file, the row of buttons on the top of the window change and show a new filein button. Press it. This will load the files, compile it and install it on your image. Hope this help. Cheers El mar, 14-12-2010 a las 10:56 +0100, StÃ©phane Ducasse escribiÃ³: > > Begin forwarded message: > > > From: nithiya nithiya <spnithi.87(a)gmail.com> > > > > Date: December 13, 2010 11:33:59 AM GMT+01:00 > > > > To: pharo-project-owner(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > > > Subject: Help me > > > > > > Sir, > > > > I follow the web link http://miguel.leugim.com.mx/index.php/tag/pharo/. > > > > > > > > I installed the Pharo smalltalk for Accessing Cassandra Database. > > > > > > > > PharoCore images and thrift0.4.0,cassandra0.6.6 are downloaded. > > > > Can you please help me ,how to load the cassandra.st,thrift.st images in the pharo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Nithya.S > -- Miguel CobÃ¡ http://twitter.com/MiguelCobaMtz http://miguel.leugim.com.mx

Dec. 14, 2010