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Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-project] Pharo Talk ESUG 2010

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

yes On Oct 7, 2010, at 12:50 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > What do you think about having these presentations and videos available from the website?? maybe under Community or under a new section "Media" or even inside documentation. > > Adrian? > > On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Hi, > > Now online: > > Slides Slideshare: http://www.slideshare.net/esug/pharo > Slides Download: http://www.marcusdenker.de/talks/10ESUG/2010PharoESUG.pdf > Video Web: http://esug2010.objectfusion.fr/tuesday.html > (part of all the Tuesday Videos) > Video for Download: > flv: http://www.marcusdenker.de/talks/10ESUG/esug2010_0914_denker.flv > mp4: http://www.marcusdenker.de/talks/10ESUG/esug2010_0914_denker.mp4 > > Marcus > > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de > INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Oct. 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-project] Pharo Talk ESUG 2010

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 1:04 AM, GermÃ¡n Arduino <garduino(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I think that is a good idea. > > I was thinking exactly in ask permit to use this one (and other > similars) to present Pharo in other contexts, for example in local > groups, etc. > That's perfectly allowed and even more, a ppt/keypoint template should be available. 2 days ago Marcus borrowed this one for my PhD first year evaliuation ;) > > Cheers. > GermÃ¡n. > > > 2010/10/6 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: > > What do you think about having these presentations and videos available > from > > the website?? maybe under Community or under a new section "Media" or > even > > inside documentation. > > > > Adrian? > > > > On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> > > wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> Now online: > >> > >> Slides Slideshare: http://www.slideshare.net/esug/pharo > >> Slides Download: > http://www.marcusdenker.de/talks/10ESUG/2010PharoESUG.pdf > >> Video Web: http://esug2010.objectfusion.fr/tuesday.html > >> (part of all the Tuesday Videos) > >> Video for Download: > >> flv: > >> http://www.marcusdenker.de/talks/10ESUG/esug2010_0914_denker.flv > >> mp4: > >> http://www.marcusdenker.de/talks/10ESUG/esug2010_0914_denker.mp4 > >> > >> Marcus > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de > >> INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-users mailing list > >> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Oct. 6, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-project] Pharo Talk ESUG 2010

by GermÃ¡n Arduino

I think that is a good idea. I was thinking exactly in ask permit to use this one (and other similars) to present Pharo in other contexts, for example in local groups, etc. Cheers. GermÃ¡n. 2010/10/6 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: > What do you think about having these presentations and videos available from > the website?? maybe under Community or under a new section "Media" or even > inside documentation. > > Adrian? > > On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> > wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Now online: >> >> Slides Slideshare: Â http://www.slideshare.net/esug/pharo >> Slides Download: http://www.marcusdenker.de/talks/10ESUG/2010PharoESUG.pdf >> Video Web: Â http://esug2010.objectfusion.fr/tuesday.html >> Â Â Â Â (part of all the Tuesday Videos) >> Video for Download: >> Â Â Â Â flv: >> http://www.marcusdenker.de/talks/10ESUG/esug2010_0914_denker.flv >> Â Â Â Â mp4: >> http://www.marcusdenker.de/talks/10ESUG/esug2010_0914_denker.mp4 >> >> Â Â Â Â Marcus >> >> >> -- >> Marcus Denker Â -- http://www.marcusdenker.de >> INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-users mailing list >> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Oct. 6, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] I'm trying to call markdown as an external process

by Mariano Martinez Peck

David may help you. Cheers Mariano On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 2:27 AM, Pat Maddox <patmaddox(a)me.com> wrote: > On Oct 5, 2010, at 5:05 PM, Pat Maddox wrote: > > > I'm trying to do something which (I think) is very simple: I just want to > run a line of text through Markdown and get the output. > > > > I've spent all day reading through the code for OSProcess and > CommandShell. It took me a while, but I finally figured out I can run a > command and get its output with: > > > > UnixProcess waitForCommandOutput: 'ls ~' > > > > The next problem I'm having is getting markdown to run on an arbitrary > string. If I go into my shell and do: > > > > $ /usr/local/bin/markdown <<END > >> # This is a heading > >> This is a paragraph with _emphasis_ > >> END > > <h1>This is a heading</h1> > > > > Then I get the output that I expect: > > <p>This is a paragraph with <em>emphasis</em></p> > > > > I can't figure out how to do this with OSProcess though. I've tried: > > > > UnixProcess waitForCommand: ('/usr/local/bin/markdown <<END > > hello world > > END') > > > > but with no luck. I've also tried using OSProcess at a lower level, > setting up the stream input object, but it seems to require a reference to > an actual file, rather than just a stream. > > > > Anyone have any ideas? I want to take an arbitrary string and use that > as the input to my markdown command, and then store that output in an > instance variable. I could use some help. > > > > Thanks, > > Pat > > Okay I've got something which appears to work fine. > > (OSProcess thisOSProcess command: '/usr/local/bin/markdown' input: '#this > is a heading > this is a paragraph _with emphasis_') output > > Kind of a painful day, but glad to be moving on :) > > Pat > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >

Oct. 6, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Talk ESUG 2010

by Mariano Martinez Peck

What do you think about having these presentations and videos available from the website?? maybe under Community or under a new section "Media" or even inside documentation. Adrian? On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr>wrote: > Hi, > > Now online: > > Slides Slideshare: http://www.slideshare.net/esug/pharo > Slides Download: http://www.marcusdenker.de/talks/10ESUG/2010PharoESUG.pdf > Video Web: http://esug2010.objectfusion.fr/tuesday.html > (part of all the Tuesday Videos) > Video for Download: > flv: > http://www.marcusdenker.de/talks/10ESUG/esug2010_0914_denker.flv > mp4: > http://www.marcusdenker.de/talks/10ESUG/esug2010_0914_denker.mp4 > > Marcus > > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de > INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >

Oct. 6, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Breakpoints in Pharo

by S Krish

Sure will update it, I just checked out on I think it was Lukas's Toggle Breakpoint stuff.. it works differently but overall neater, except for bugs in using it in some places viz: bitShift: methods et al.. -skrish On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 2:33 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck < marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks for this feature, is really useful. > > I've just checked latest OB where this should be integrated. I saw a > "toogle breakpoint". You area talking about, aren't you? > > In addition, it would be nice to have such think also in the context menu > in the code panel. So you don't need to go to the method and right click > there. > > cheers > > Mariano > > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:11 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < > stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >> Did you see that there was a breakPoint class and BreakPointManager? >> >> Stef >> >> >> On Sep 20, 2010, at 12:14 PM, S Krish wrote: >> >> > >> http://skrishnamachari.wordpress.com/2010/09/20/debugger-point-in-pharo-cod… >> > >> > Unit tests from the browser do this automatically for now.. >> > >> > Any corrections and inputs are welcome.. it will help in becoming that >> bit more productive on Pharo.. >> > >> > -Skrish >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Pharo-users mailing list >> > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-users mailing list >> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > >

Oct. 6, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Talk ESUG 2010

by GermÃ¡n Arduino

Thanks! 2010/10/6 Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr>: > Hi, > > Now online: > > Slides Slideshare: Â http://www.slideshare.net/esug/pharo > Slides Download: http://www.marcusdenker.de/talks/10ESUG/2010PharoESUG.pdf > Video Web: Â http://esug2010.objectfusion.fr/tuesday.html > Â Â Â Â (part of all the Tuesday Videos) > Video for Download: > Â Â Â Â flv: http://www.marcusdenker.de/talks/10ESUG/esug2010_0914_denker.flv > Â Â Â Â mp4: http://www.marcusdenker.de/talks/10ESUG/esug2010_0914_denker.mp4 > > Â Â Â Â Marcus > > > -- > Marcus Denker Â -- http://www.marcusdenker.de > INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > -- ================================================= GermÃ¡n S. ArduinoÂ <gsa @ arsol.net>Â Â Twitter: garduino Arduino Software & Web HostingÂ Â http://www.arduinosoftware.com PasswordsProÂ http://www.passwordspro.com =================================================

Oct. 6, 2010

Pharo Talk ESUG 2010

by Marcus Denker

Hi, Now online: Slides Slideshare: http://www.slideshare.net/esug/pharo Slides Download: http://www.marcusdenker.de/talks/10ESUG/2010PharoESUG.pdf Video Web: http://esug2010.objectfusion.fr/tuesday.html (part of all the Tuesday Videos) Video for Download: flv: http://www.marcusdenker.de/talks/10ESUG/esug2010_0914_denker.flv mp4: http://www.marcusdenker.de/talks/10ESUG/esug2010_0914_denker.mp4 Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

Oct. 6, 2010

Tool for: Image2 - Image1 > FileOut?

by Stefan Marr

Hello: I got here two images without sufficient development history, source code management, or change sets. One of the images is the basis point and the other contains all the relevant code I need to file out somehow so that it represents a diff which can be filed into the base point image easily. I am only interested in classes, methods, and their meta infos, so general state in the image is not a problem at the moment. If it would be only about methods, that would be easy, since I can find out whether it is a changed/new method by locking at the fileIndex. However, for classes that does not work out. How can I find out whether they changed or were added? That seems to be only possible if they were actually commented... Is there any known tool which could produce me a diff/fileOut/changeSet from two given images? Or might there be any other information in the image I could use to create one myself? Thanks and best regards Stefan -- Stefan Marr Software Languages Lab Vrije Universiteit Brussel Pleinlaan 2 / B-1050 Brussels / Belgium http://soft.vub.ac.be/~smarr Phone: +32 2 629 2974 Fax: +32 2 629 3525

Oct. 6, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] I'm trying to call markdown as an external process

by Pat Maddox

On Oct 5, 2010, at 5:05 PM, Pat Maddox wrote: > I'm trying to do something which (I think) is very simple: I just want to run a line of text through Markdown and get the output. > > I've spent all day reading through the code for OSProcess and CommandShell. It took me a while, but I finally figured out I can run a command and get its output with: > > UnixProcess waitForCommandOutput: 'ls ~' > > The next problem I'm having is getting markdown to run on an arbitrary string. If I go into my shell and do: > > $ /usr/local/bin/markdown <<END >> # This is a heading >> This is a paragraph with _emphasis_ >> END > <h1>This is a heading</h1> > > Then I get the output that I expect: > <p>This is a paragraph with <em>emphasis</em></p> > > I can't figure out how to do this with OSProcess though. I've tried: > > UnixProcess waitForCommand: ('/usr/local/bin/markdown <<END > hello world > END') > > but with no luck. I've also tried using OSProcess at a lower level, setting up the stream input object, but it seems to require a reference to an actual file, rather than just a stream. > > Anyone have any ideas? I want to take an arbitrary string and use that as the input to my markdown command, and then store that output in an instance variable. I could use some help. > > Thanks, > Pat Okay I've got something which appears to work fine. (OSProcess thisOSProcess command: '/usr/local/bin/markdown' input: '#this is a heading this is a paragraph _with emphasis_') output Kind of a painful day, but glad to be moving on :) Pat

Oct. 6, 2010

I'm trying to call markdown as an external process

by Pat Maddox

I'm trying to do something which (I think) is very simple: I just want to run a line of text through Markdown and get the output. I've spent all day reading through the code for OSProcess and CommandShell. It took me a while, but I finally figured out I can run a command and get its output with: UnixProcess waitForCommandOutput: 'ls ~' The next problem I'm having is getting markdown to run on an arbitrary string. If I go into my shell and do: $ /usr/local/bin/markdown <<END > # This is a heading > This is a paragraph with _emphasis_ > END <h1>This is a heading</h1> Then I get the output that I expect: <p>This is a paragraph with <em>emphasis</em></p> I can't figure out how to do this with OSProcess though. I've tried: UnixProcess waitForCommand: ('/usr/local/bin/markdown <<END hello world END') but with no luck. I've also tried using OSProcess at a lower level, setting up the stream input object, but it seems to require a reference to an actual file, rather than just a stream. Anyone have any ideas? I want to take an arbitrary string and use that as the input to my markdown command, and then store that output in an instance variable. I could use some help. Thanks, Pat

Oct. 6, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] [Seaside] Pharocasts: Getting started with Pier CMS

by Tudor Girba

Nice job: http://www.piercms.com/blog/getting-started-screencast Cheers, Doru On 3 Oct 2010, at 22:19, laurent laffont wrote: > Pier is a content management system that is light, flexible and free. > > This screencast shows > - how to setup Pier for a minimal web site > - configure persistency. > > http://www.pharocasts.com/2010/10/getting-started-with-pier-cms.html > > Recorded by Damien Cassou, voice by Christoph Budzinsky, edited by Laurent Laffont. This video is a real team work :) > > Cheers, > > Laurent Laffont > > Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/ > Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ > _______________________________________________ > seaside mailing list > seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside -- www.tudorgirba.com "Some battles are better lost than fought."

Oct. 4, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] [Seaside] Pharocasts: Getting started with Pier CMS

by stephane ducasse

cool! Stef On Oct 3, 2010, at 10:19 PM, laurent laffont wrote: > Pier is a content management system that is light, flexible and free. > > This screencast shows > - how to setup Pier for a minimal web site > - configure persistency. > > http://www.pharocasts.com/2010/10/getting-started-with-pier-cms.html > > Recorded by Damien Cassou, voice by Christoph Budzinsky, edited by Laurent Laffont. This video is a real team work :) > > Cheers, > > Laurent Laffont > > Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/ > Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ > _______________________________________________ > seaside mailing list > seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside

Oct. 3, 2010

Pharocasts: Getting started with Pier CMS

by laurent laffont

Pier is a content management system that is light, flexible and free. This screencast shows - how to setup Pier for a minimal web site - configure persistency. http://www.pharocasts.com/2010/10/getting-started-with-pier-cms.html Recorded by Damien Cassou, voice by Christoph Budzinsky, edited by Laurent Laffont. This video is a real team work :) Cheers, Laurent Laffont Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/ Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/

Oct. 3, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Distributing 'minimal' image

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: > > On 01 Oct 2010, at 01:48, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > - Is there an easy way to strip this image of dev tools et cetera? >> > > Not really. The easiest way is to have a Configuration of Metacello that > takes care of loading all your code with all your dependencies. Then, take a > PharoCore and load your code there. > > > Pity, that. It would be a nice addition to Pharo I think... > The problem are, as always, the overrides. Sure, you can unload all the packages that were loaded on top of the core image to build the Dev one, but the problem are the overrides. We cannot (yet?) recover the original overwritten method I think. > > In addition, you may want to evaluate "ScriptLoader cleanUpForProduction" > at the end. Check the method to see what it does. > > > Thanks, I'll look at that. > > > >> - How can I make it so that I can distribute it without the changes file? >> (Right now the image complains of a missing changes file if it is not there >> ...) >> >> > I am aware of "Smalltalk abandonSources" to avoid using .sources. You > won't see things like the temp names, and stuff will be decompiled instead. > > > > OK I'll try that. > > For the .changes you can start the image without them, there will raise a > popup at the beginning. The problem is if you then do sometthing that should > be written there. Not sure here... > > > Is there a way for this popup to be inhibited? Or can I just make a > zero-line changes file and distribute that? I am assuming the users will not > use a browser, and if they do get to that point they are experts and fully > responsible for shooting themselves in the foot :-) > > -- > Johan Fabry > jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl - http://dcc.uchile.cl/~jfabry<http://dcc.uchile.cl/%7Ejfabry> > PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > >

Oct. 1, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Distributing 'minimal' image

by Johan Fabry

On 01 Oct 2010, at 15:34, Daniel Galdames wrote: > > Is there a way for this popup to be inhibited? Or can I just make a zero-line changes file and distribute that? I am assuming the users will not use a browser, and if they do get to that point they are experts and fully responsible for shooting themselves in the foot :-) > > > On Settings Browser, under System, you can uncheck "Check changes file availability", to inhibit the warning. Cool, thanks Daniel! -- Johan Fabry jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl - http://dcc.uchile.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

Oct. 1, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Distributing 'minimal' image

by Daniel Galdames

> > Is there a way for this popup to be inhibited? Or can I just make a > zero-line changes file and distribute that? I am assuming the users will not > use a browser, and if they do get to that point they are experts and fully > responsible for shooting themselves in the foot :-) > > On Settings Browser, under System, you can uncheck "Check changes file availability", to inhibit the warning. Saludos, Daniel Galdames G.

Oct. 1, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo-1.1.1-dev10.09.1

by Tudor Girba

Great! Doru On 1 Oct 2010, at 09:55, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > Hi folks. We are releasing Pharo 1.1.1. This image is exactly same as Pharo 1.1 but based on PharoCore 1.1.1. The versions of the external packages is the same as in Pharo 1.1. The difference is that PharoCore1.1.1 has integrated some fixes and the support for CogVM. This means that Pharo-1.1.1-dev10.09.1 can be run with both, normal PharoVM and CogVM. For CogVM we recommend to use the last binaries that can be found in http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/. Right now the last one is http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/VM.r2313/ > > This CogVM version fixes the problem with "Objects as methods", and thus, all the #run:with:with are working. This means that tools like TestCoverage and AutoTest are working correctly with CogVM. > > The link to the image is: https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/27543/Pharo-1.1.1-dev10.09.1.zip > > Cheers > > Mariano > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users -- www.tudorgirba.com "Being happy is a matter of choice."

Oct. 1, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Distributing 'minimal' image

by Johan Fabry

On 01 Oct 2010, at 01:48, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > - Is there an easy way to strip this image of dev tools et cetera? > > Not really. The easiest way is to have a Configuration of Metacello that takes care of loading all your code with all your dependencies. Then, take a PharoCore and load your code there. Pity, that. It would be a nice addition to Pharo I think... > In addition, you may want to evaluate "ScriptLoader cleanUpForProduction" at the end. Check the method to see what it does. Thanks, I'll look at that. > > - How can I make it so that I can distribute it without the changes file? (Right now the image complains of a missing changes file if it is not there ...) > > > I am aware of "Smalltalk abandonSources" to avoid using .sources. You won't see things like the temp names, and stuff will be decompiled instead. OK I'll try that. > For the .changes you can start the image without them, there will raise a popup at the beginning. The problem is if you then do sometthing that should be written there. Not sure here... Is there a way for this popup to be inhibited? Or can I just make a zero-line changes file and distribute that? I am assuming the users will not use a browser, and if they do get to that point they are experts and fully responsible for shooting themselves in the foot :-) -- Johan Fabry jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl - http://dcc.uchile.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

Oct. 1, 2010

[ANN] Pharo-1.1.1-dev10.09.1

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Hi folks. We are releasing Pharo 1.1.1. This image is exactly same as Pharo 1.1 but based on PharoCore 1.1.1. The versions of the external packages is the same as in Pharo 1.1. The difference is that PharoCore1.1.1 has integrated some fixes and the support for CogVM. This means that Pharo-1.1.1-dev10.09.1 can be run with both, normal PharoVM and CogVM. For CogVM we recommend to use the last binaries that can be found in http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/. Right now the last one is http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/VM.r2313/ This CogVM version fixes the problem with "Objects as methods", and thus, all the #run:with:with are working. This means that tools like TestCoverage and AutoTest are working correctly with CogVM. The link to the image is: https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/27543/Pharo-1.1.1-dev10.09.1.zip Cheers Mariano

Oct. 1, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Distributing 'minimal' image

by Igor Stasenko

On 1 October 2010 08:48, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 11:07 PM, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I am planning to put online a minimal image that contains AspectMaps, with >> some models pre-loaded. Two questions: >> - Is there an easy way to strip this image of dev tools et cetera? > > Not really. The easiest way is to have a Configuration of Metacello that > takes care of loading all your code with all your dependencies. Then, take a > PharoCore and load your code there. > In addition, you may want to evaluate "ScriptLoader cleanUpForProduction" at > the end. Check the method to see what it does. > >> >> - How can I make it so that I can distribute it without the changes file? >> (Right now the image complains of a missing changes file if it is not there >> ...) >> > > I am aware of "Smalltalk abandonSources"Â to avoid using .sources. You won't > see things like the temp names, and stuff will be decompiled instead. With a little effort, you can embed source code into method trailers. Then you won't need .sources nor .chanes to see the real source instead of decompiling it. But you will loose method stamps. > For the .changes you can start the image without them, there will raise a > popup at the beginning. The problem is if you then do sometthing that should > be written there. Not sure here... > yeah. > cheers > > Mariano > > > >> >> Thanks in advance! >> -- >> Johan Fabry >> jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl - http://dcc.uchile.cl/~jfabry >> PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-users mailing list >> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

Oct. 1, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Distributing 'minimal' image

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 11:07 PM, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: > Hi all, > > I am planning to put online a minimal image that contains AspectMaps, with > some models pre-loaded. Two questions: > - Is there an easy way to strip this image of dev tools et cetera? > Not really. The easiest way is to have a Configuration of Metacello that takes care of loading all your code with all your dependencies. Then, take a PharoCore and load your code there. In addition, you may want to evaluate "ScriptLoader cleanUpForProduction" at the end. Check the method to see what it does. > - How can I make it so that I can distribute it without the changes file? > (Right now the image complains of a missing changes file if it is not there > ...) > > I am aware of "Smalltalk abandonSources" to avoid using .sources. You won't see things like the temp names, and stuff will be decompiled instead. For the .changes you can start the image without them, there will raise a popup at the beginning. The problem is if you then do sometthing that should be written there. Not sure here... cheers Mariano > Thanks in advance! > -- > Johan Fabry > jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl - http://dcc.uchile.cl/~jfabry<http://dcc.uchile.cl/%7Ejfabry> > PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >

Oct. 1, 2010

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo-users Digest, Vol 9, Issue 32

by -Martin Ramos

hi guillermo, i Â´m from Quilmes, Argentina, im study in the UNQ university, iÂ´m very happy to share experiences with you. 2010/9/30 <pharo-users-request(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> > Send Pharo-users mailing list submissions to > pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pharo-users-request(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pharo-users-owner(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Pharo-users digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Pharo 1.1.1 OneClickCogVm > (Mariano Martinez Peck) > 2. Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Pharo 1.1.1 OneClickCogVm > (Igor Stasenko) > 3. Hello (-Martin Ramos) > 4. Re: Hello (St?phane Ducasse) > 5. Re: Hello (Guillermo Polito) > 6. Distributing 'minimal' image (Johan Fabry) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 14:16:32 +0200 > From: Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-project] [ANN] Pharo 1.1.1 > OneClickCogVm > To: A friendly place where any question about pharo is welcome > <pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> > Message-ID: > <AANLkTikyc=kbqo+tWoCP_-MNsUnSwJgAJivkNkXVg+im(a)mail.gmail.com<kbqo%2BtWoCP_-MNsUnSwJgAJivkNkXVg%2Bim(a)mail.gmail.com> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Hi Mariano, > > > > Is the 1.1.1 dev image available for the old VM? > > > > No, but you can do it by yourself. Just take the PharoCore 1.1.1 ( > https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/27526/PharoCore-1.1.1.zip) > And evaluate: > > > Gofer new > squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; > package: 'ConfigurationOfPharo'; > load. > > ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfPharo) project version: '1.1') perform: > #silently: with: true; perform: #load. > > > > > > > I was a bit away, and I am not sure of the status. If there is something > I > > can do, please let me know. > > > > Cheers, > > Doru > > > > > > On 25 Sep 2010, at 19:49, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 7:09 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > Hi Mariano, > > > > > > This is a good and needed step. > > > > > > Now, just a problem: 1.1.1dev image does not work with the regular VM. > > This is probably because you saved it again after you opened it with the > Cog > > VM. It would be great if the released dev image would work with both. > > > > > > Excellent suggestion :) > > > Thanks doru. > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Doru > > > > > > > > > > > > On 25 Sep 2010, at 17:56, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > > > > > Hi. This is not an official release. I didn't do all the formal > > procedure for releasing a Pharo image. My idea is try to push CogVM and > try > > to get as much as testers as possible. Try to report issues and help > Eliot. > > For that purpose, I think having a one click image is worth it. > > > > > > > > So.....I build a Pharo dev on top of the PharoCore 1.1.1 (which has > > some fixes over 1.1 and the CogVM necessary changes). I build the image > with > > exactly the same versions of the external packages than Pharo 1.1. > > > > > > > > If you want to download that this Pharo1.1.1 dev image that works > with > > Cog here is the link: > > > > > > > > > > > https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/27516/Pharo-1.1.1-dev10.09.1.zip > > > > > > > > In addition, and thanks to Lukas, we could generate OneClicks with > > CogVM. Here you can have a OneClick using the above image: > > > > > > > > > > > https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/27524/Pharo-1.1.1-OneClickCogVM.zip > > > > > > > > Notice that this is not an official release and that there are > > failing/errors tests. I've already sent emails for them and hopefully > > someone may fix them. The only thing is not supported is the TestCoverage > > (since it uses objects as methods, with is not yet supported in CogVM). > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > > Mariano > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Pharo-users mailing list > > > > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > > > > -- > > > www.tudorgirba.com > > > > > > "The coherence of a trip is given by the clearness of the goal." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Pharo-project mailing list > > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Pharo-project mailing list > > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > -- > > www.tudorgirba.com > > > > "In a world where everything is moving ever faster, > > one might have better chances to win by moving slower." > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-users mailing list > > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > >

Oct. 1, 2010