Cmd-o is not opening a new pane?
It does in the moose image. Pity, this is so useful... Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
you have to pay attention to other lists other than moose, Alex :) nah, seriously: we have been discussing on a remap, because it is conflicting with other keybindings we have in pharo (cmd+o+[others]). For now, we have three proposals: cmd+e âexecuteâ cmd+g âgoâ cmd+i, and remap gtinspector to cmd+I personally I prefer the second one. the third one looks like a good idea, but it will introduce an incoherence in the system (unless we remap everything, everywhere), so I prefer to stick with âcmd+gâ Esteban
On 02 Oct 2014, at 23:28, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com> wrote:
It does in the moose image. Pity, this is so useful...
Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
you have to pay attention to other lists other than moose, Alex :)
Sorry for making some question redundant :-)
nah, seriously: we have been discussing on a remap, because it is conflicting with other keybindings we have in pharo (cmd+o+[others]).
I was not aware of keybindings starting with cmd+o Alexandre
For now, we have three proposals:
cmd+e âexecuteâ cmd+g âgoâ cmd+i, and remap gtinspector to cmd+I
personally I prefer the second one. the third one looks like a good idea, but it will introduce an incoherence in the system (unless we remap everything, everywhere), so I prefer to stick with âcmd+gâ
Esteban
On 02 Oct 2014, at 23:28, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com> wrote:
It does in the moose image. Pity, this is so useful...
Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
-- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
Why do you think that the "Cmd+i" option introduces incoherence? Doru On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 11:45 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
you have to pay attention to other lists other than moose, Alex :) nah, seriously: we have been discussing on a remap, because it is conflicting with other keybindings we have in pharo (cmd+o+[others]).
For now, we have three proposals:
cmd+e âexecuteâ cmd+g âgoâ cmd+i, and remap gtinspector to cmd+I
personally I prefer the second one. the third one looks like a good idea, but it will introduce an incoherence in the system (unless we remap everything, everywhere), so I prefer to stick with âcmd+gâ
Esteban
On 02 Oct 2014, at 23:28, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com> wrote:
It does in the moose image. Pity, this is so useful...
Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
-- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"
yes, because it will be "open panel" in playground and "popup an inspector" everyplace else. On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Why do you think that the "Cmd+i" option introduces incoherence?
Doru
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 11:45 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
you have to pay attention to other lists other than moose, Alex :) nah, seriously: we have been discussing on a remap, because it is conflicting with other keybindings we have in pharo (cmd+o+[others]).
For now, we have three proposals:
cmd+e âexecuteâ cmd+g âgoâ cmd+i, and remap gtinspector to cmd+I
personally I prefer the second one. the third one looks like a good idea, but it will introduce an incoherence in the system (unless we remap everything, everywhere), so I prefer to stick with âcmd+gâ
Esteban
On 02 Oct 2014, at 23:28, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com> wrote:
It does in the moose image. Pity, this is so useful...
Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
Hi, What if you see it like this: Cmd+i inspects. If you can inspect in place, you do it, otherwise, you inspect in a new window. I know it would require a bit of getting used to, but imagine what will happen when the class browser will allow you to inspect in place ... oops, perhaps I should have not say it loud :) Cheers, Doru On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
yes, because it will be "open panel" in playground and "popup an inspector" everyplace else.
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Why do you think that the "Cmd+i" option introduces incoherence?
Doru
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 11:45 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
you have to pay attention to other lists other than moose, Alex :) nah, seriously: we have been discussing on a remap, because it is conflicting with other keybindings we have in pharo (cmd+o+[others]).
For now, we have three proposals:
cmd+e âexecuteâ cmd+g âgoâ cmd+i, and remap gtinspector to cmd+I
personally I prefer the second one. the third one looks like a good idea, but it will introduce an incoherence in the system (unless we remap everything, everywhere), so I prefer to stick with âcmd+gâ
Esteban
On 02 Oct 2014, at 23:28, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com> wrote:
It does in the moose image. Pity, this is so useful...
Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
-- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"
well, but thatâs something that *now* you cannot do. what people will see now is âcmd+i does one thing in playground, and other thing in other parts of the system". For me, thatâs not coherent, and introduces a level of pain. We are still trying to fix the annoying introduced by nautilus because commands are different on it than the rest of the system⦠I would like to avoid that. Esteban
On 03 Oct 2014, at 08:17, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Hi,
What if you see it like this: Cmd+i inspects. If you can inspect in place, you do it, otherwise, you inspect in a new window. I know it would require a bit of getting used to, but imagine what will happen when the class browser will allow you to inspect in place ... oops, perhaps I should have not say it loud :)
Cheers, Doru
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>> wrote: yes, because it will be "open panel" in playground and "popup an inspector" everyplace else.
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com <mailto:tudor@tudorgirba.com>> wrote: Why do you think that the "Cmd+i" option introduces incoherence?
Doru
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 11:45 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>> wrote: you have to pay attention to other lists other than moose, Alex :) nah, seriously: we have been discussing on a remap, because it is conflicting with other keybindings we have in pharo (cmd+o+[others]).
For now, we have three proposals:
cmd+e âexecuteâ cmd+g âgoâ cmd+i, and remap gtinspector to cmd+I
personally I prefer the second one. the third one looks like a good idea, but it will introduce an incoherence in the system (unless we remap everything, everywhere), so I prefer to stick with âcmd+gâ
Esteban
On 02 Oct 2014, at 23:28, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com <mailto:alexandre.bergel@me.com>> wrote:
It does in the moose image. Pity, this is so useful...
Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu <http://www.bergel.eu/> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
-- www.tudorgirba.com <http://www.tudorgirba.com/>
"Every thing has its own flow"
-- www.tudorgirba.com <http://www.tudorgirba.com/>
"Every thing has its own flow"
I understand. But, even now, you associated Cmd+i as a window action. Is it a stretch to see it as a logical action that materializes in different ways? Doru On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
well, but thatâs something that *now* you cannot do. what people will see now is âcmd+i does one thing in playground, and other thing in other parts of the system". For me, thatâs not coherent, and introduces a level of pain. We are still trying to fix the annoying introduced by nautilus because commands are different on it than the rest of the system⦠I would like to avoid that.
Esteban
On 03 Oct 2014, at 08:17, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Hi,
What if you see it like this: Cmd+i inspects. If you can inspect in place, you do it, otherwise, you inspect in a new window. I know it would require a bit of getting used to, but imagine what will happen when the class browser will allow you to inspect in place ... oops, perhaps I should have not say it loud :)
Cheers, Doru
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
yes, because it will be "open panel" in playground and "popup an inspector" everyplace else.
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Why do you think that the "Cmd+i" option introduces incoherence?
Doru
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 11:45 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
you have to pay attention to other lists other than moose, Alex :) nah, seriously: we have been discussing on a remap, because it is conflicting with other keybindings we have in pharo (cmd+o+[others]).
For now, we have three proposals:
cmd+e âexecuteâ cmd+g âgoâ cmd+i, and remap gtinspector to cmd+I
personally I prefer the second one. the third one looks like a good idea, but it will introduce an incoherence in the system (unless we remap everything, everywhere), so I prefer to stick with âcmd+gâ
Esteban
On 02 Oct 2014, at 23:28, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com> wrote:
It does in the moose image. Pity, this is so useful...
Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
-- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"
On a separate note, I played with another variation of a go icon that would be more specific to Pharo. Would you like this better? [image: Inline image 1] Cheers, Doru On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 8:35 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
I understand. But, even now, you associated Cmd+i as a window action. Is it a stretch to see it as a logical action that materializes in different ways?
Doru
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
well, but thatâs something that *now* you cannot do. what people will see now is âcmd+i does one thing in playground, and other thing in other parts of the system". For me, thatâs not coherent, and introduces a level of pain. We are still trying to fix the annoying introduced by nautilus because commands are different on it than the rest of the system⦠I would like to avoid that.
Esteban
On 03 Oct 2014, at 08:17, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Hi,
What if you see it like this: Cmd+i inspects. If you can inspect in place, you do it, otherwise, you inspect in a new window. I know it would require a bit of getting used to, but imagine what will happen when the class browser will allow you to inspect in place ... oops, perhaps I should have not say it loud :)
Cheers, Doru
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
yes, because it will be "open panel" in playground and "popup an inspector" everyplace else.
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Why do you think that the "Cmd+i" option introduces incoherence?
Doru
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 11:45 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com
wrote:
you have to pay attention to other lists other than moose, Alex :) nah, seriously: we have been discussing on a remap, because it is conflicting with other keybindings we have in pharo (cmd+o+[others]).
For now, we have three proposals:
cmd+e âexecuteâ cmd+g âgoâ cmd+i, and remap gtinspector to cmd+I
personally I prefer the second one. the third one looks like a good idea, but it will introduce an incoherence in the system (unless we remap everything, everywhere), so I prefer to stick with âcmd+gâ
Esteban
On 02 Oct 2014, at 23:28, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com> wrote:
It does in the moose image. Pity, this is so useful...
Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
-- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"
Question about those icons, are they DarkTheme ready? I have had to invert them all by hand to have something looking nice (and do all kinds of changes to be able to read the contents). Also, as GT is using Rubric, the default black/dark text has to be turned into white as well as the cursor color in order to see something. Phil On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 8:44 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
On a separate note, I played with another variation of a go icon that would be more specific to Pharo. Would you like this better?
[image: Inline image 1]
Cheers, Doru
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 8:35 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
I understand. But, even now, you associated Cmd+i as a window action. Is it a stretch to see it as a logical action that materializes in different ways?
Doru
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
well, but thatâs something that *now* you cannot do. what people will see now is âcmd+i does one thing in playground, and other thing in other parts of the system". For me, thatâs not coherent, and introduces a level of pain. We are still trying to fix the annoying introduced by nautilus because commands are different on it than the rest of the system⦠I would like to avoid that.
Esteban
On 03 Oct 2014, at 08:17, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Hi,
What if you see it like this: Cmd+i inspects. If you can inspect in place, you do it, otherwise, you inspect in a new window. I know it would require a bit of getting used to, but imagine what will happen when the class browser will allow you to inspect in place ... oops, perhaps I should have not say it loud :)
Cheers, Doru
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
yes, because it will be "open panel" in playground and "popup an inspector" everyplace else.
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Why do you think that the "Cmd+i" option introduces incoherence?
Doru
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 11:45 PM, Esteban Lorenzano < estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
you have to pay attention to other lists other than moose, Alex :) nah, seriously: we have been discussing on a remap, because it is conflicting with other keybindings we have in pharo (cmd+o+[others]).
For now, we have three proposals:
cmd+e âexecuteâ cmd+g âgoâ cmd+i, and remap gtinspector to cmd+I
personally I prefer the second one. the third one looks like a good idea, but it will introduce an incoherence in the system (unless we remap everything, everywhere), so I prefer to stick with âcmd+gâ
Esteban
On 02 Oct 2014, at 23:28, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com> wrote:
It does in the moose image. Pity, this is so useful...
Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
On 03 Oct 2014, at 09:30, phil@highoctane.be wrote:
Question about those icons, are they DarkTheme ready? I have had to invert them all by hand to have something looking nice (and do all kinds of changes to be able to read the contents).
Also, as GT is using Rubric, the default black/dark text has to be turned into white as well as the cursor color in order to see something.
As far as I know: no, this is work on progress. Marcus
No, they are not "Pharo ready" in general. I'm working in a change proposal...
On 3 Oct 2014, at 09:30, "phil@highoctane.be" <phil@highoctane.be> wrote:
Question about those icons, are they DarkTheme ready? I have had to invert them all by hand to have something looking nice (and do all kinds of changes to be able to read the contents).
Also, as GT is using Rubric, the default black/dark text has to be turned into white as well as the cursor color in order to see something.
Phil
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 8:44 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote: On a separate note, I played with another variation of a go icon that would be more specific to Pharo. Would you like this better?
<go-icon.png>
Cheers, Doru
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 8:35 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote: I understand. But, even now, you associated Cmd+i as a window action. Is it a stretch to see it as a logical action that materializes in different ways?
Doru
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote: well, but thatâs something that *now* you cannot do. what people will see now is âcmd+i does one thing in playground, and other thing in other parts of the system". For me, thatâs not coherent, and introduces a level of pain. We are still trying to fix the annoying introduced by nautilus because commands are different on it than the rest of the system⦠I would like to avoid that.
Esteban
On 03 Oct 2014, at 08:17, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Hi,
What if you see it like this: Cmd+i inspects. If you can inspect in place, you do it, otherwise, you inspect in a new window. I know it would require a bit of getting used to, but imagine what will happen when the class browser will allow you to inspect in place ... oops, perhaps I should have not say it loud :)
Cheers, Doru
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote: yes, because it will be "open panel" in playground and "popup an inspector" everyplace else.
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote: Why do you think that the "Cmd+i" option introduces incoherence?
Doru
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 11:45 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote: you have to pay attention to other lists other than moose, Alex :) nah, seriously: we have been discussing on a remap, because it is conflicting with other keybindings we have in pharo (cmd+o+[others]).
For now, we have three proposals:
cmd+e âexecuteâ cmd+g âgoâ cmd+i, and remap gtinspector to cmd+I
personally I prefer the second one. the third one looks like a good idea, but it will introduce an incoherence in the system (unless we remap everything, everywhere), so I prefer to stick with âcmd+gâ
Esteban
On 02 Oct 2014, at 23:28, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com> wrote:
It does in the moose image. Pity, this is so useful...
Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
Hi, Indeed, they are not ready for the dark theme. As for Pharo-ready, I would rather take the opportunity to create a set of icons that are Pharo specific. I can try to play with that. @Esteban: could you point me to where I should look for the currently used icons? Cheers, Doru On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 9:52 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
No, they are not "Pharo ready" in general. I'm working in a change proposal...
On 3 Oct 2014, at 09:30, "phil@highoctane.be" <phil@highoctane.be> wrote:
Question about those icons, are they DarkTheme ready? I have had to invert them all by hand to have something looking nice (and do all kinds of changes to be able to read the contents).
Also, as GT is using Rubric, the default black/dark text has to be turned into white as well as the cursor color in order to see something.
Phil
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 8:44 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
On a separate note, I played with another variation of a go icon that would be more specific to Pharo. Would you like this better?
<go-icon.png>
Cheers, Doru
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 8:35 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
I understand. But, even now, you associated Cmd+i as a window action. Is it a stretch to see it as a logical action that materializes in different ways?
Doru
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
well, but thatâs something that *now* you cannot do. what people will see now is âcmd+i does one thing in playground, and other thing in other parts of the system". For me, thatâs not coherent, and introduces a level of pain. We are still trying to fix the annoying introduced by nautilus because commands are different on it than the rest of the system⦠I would like to avoid that.
Esteban
On 03 Oct 2014, at 08:17, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Hi,
What if you see it like this: Cmd+i inspects. If you can inspect in place, you do it, otherwise, you inspect in a new window. I know it would require a bit of getting used to, but imagine what will happen when the class browser will allow you to inspect in place ... oops, perhaps I should have not say it loud :)
Cheers, Doru
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
yes, because it will be "open panel" in playground and "popup an inspector" everyplace else.
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Why do you think that the "Cmd+i" option introduces incoherence?
Doru
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 11:45 PM, Esteban Lorenzano < estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
you have to pay attention to other lists other than moose, Alex :) nah, seriously: we have been discussing on a remap, because it is conflicting with other keybindings we have in pharo (cmd+o+[others]).
For now, we have three proposals:
cmd+e âexecuteâ cmd+g âgoâ cmd+i, and remap gtinspector to cmd+I
personally I prefer the second one. the third one looks like a good idea, but it will introduce an incoherence in the system (unless we remap everything, everywhere), so I prefer to stick with âcmd+gâ
Esteban
On 02 Oct 2014, at 23:28, Alexandre Bergel < alexandre.bergel@me.com> wrote:
It does in the moose image. Pity, this is so useful...
Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
-- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"
On 03 Oct 2014, at 11:40, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Hi,
Indeed, they are not ready for the dark theme.
As for Pharo-ready, I would rather take the opportunity to create a set of icons that are Pharo specific. I can try to play with that.
@Esteban: could you point me to where I should look for the currently used icons?
current icons are in: EclipseUIThemeIcons and around. but Iâm starting to refactorise all that monolithic crap we have now. I was just now discussing an idea (more or less same we discussed before around themes) to solve this (still not completely doneâ¦) Esteban
Cheers, Doru
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 9:52 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>> wrote: No, they are not "Pharo ready" in general. I'm working in a change proposal...
On 3 Oct 2014, at 09:30, "phil@highoctane.be <mailto:phil@highoctane.be>" <phil@highoctane.be <mailto:phil@highoctane.be>> wrote:
Question about those icons, are they DarkTheme ready? I have had to invert them all by hand to have something looking nice (and do all kinds of changes to be able to read the contents).
Also, as GT is using Rubric, the default black/dark text has to be turned into white as well as the cursor color in order to see something.
Phil
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 8:44 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com <mailto:tudor@tudorgirba.com>> wrote: On a separate note, I played with another variation of a go icon that would be more specific to Pharo. Would you like this better?
<go-icon.png>
Cheers, Doru
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 8:35 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com <mailto:tudor@tudorgirba.com>> wrote: I understand. But, even now, you associated Cmd+i as a window action. Is it a stretch to see it as a logical action that materializes in different ways?
Doru
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>> wrote: well, but thatâs something that *now* you cannot do. what people will see now is âcmd+i does one thing in playground, and other thing in other parts of the system". For me, thatâs not coherent, and introduces a level of pain. We are still trying to fix the annoying introduced by nautilus because commands are different on it than the rest of the system⦠I would like to avoid that.
Esteban
On 03 Oct 2014, at 08:17, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com <mailto:tudor@tudorgirba.com>> wrote:
Hi,
What if you see it like this: Cmd+i inspects. If you can inspect in place, you do it, otherwise, you inspect in a new window. I know it would require a bit of getting used to, but imagine what will happen when the class browser will allow you to inspect in place ... oops, perhaps I should have not say it loud :)
Cheers, Doru
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>> wrote: yes, because it will be "open panel" in playground and "popup an inspector" everyplace else.
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com <mailto:tudor@tudorgirba.com>> wrote: Why do you think that the "Cmd+i" option introduces incoherence?
Doru
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 11:45 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>> wrote: you have to pay attention to other lists other than moose, Alex :) nah, seriously: we have been discussing on a remap, because it is conflicting with other keybindings we have in pharo (cmd+o+[others]).
For now, we have three proposals:
cmd+e âexecuteâ cmd+g âgoâ cmd+i, and remap gtinspector to cmd+I
personally I prefer the second one. the third one looks like a good idea, but it will introduce an incoherence in the system (unless we remap everything, everywhere), so I prefer to stick with âcmd+gâ
Esteban
On 02 Oct 2014, at 23:28, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com <mailto:alexandre.bergel@me.com>> wrote:
It does in the moose image. Pity, this is so useful...
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"Every thing has its own flow"
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Le 3 oct. 2014 à 08:26, Esteban Lorenzano a écrit :
well, but thatâs something that *now* you cannot do. what people will see now is âcmd+i does one thing in playground, and other thing in other parts of the system".
Maybe it is me but what I see is cmd+i => inspect. I will be more confused to use cmd+o in GT and cmd+i everywhere else. My 2 cents, Christophe.
On 03 Oct 2014, at 10:08, Christophe Demarey <Christophe.Demarey@inria.fr> wrote:
Le 3 oct. 2014 à 08:26, Esteban Lorenzano a écrit :
well, but thatâs something that *now* you cannot do. what people will see now is âcmd+i does one thing in playground, and other thing in other parts of the system".
Maybe it is me but what I see is cmd+i => inspect. I will be more confused to use cmd+o in GT and cmd+i everywhere else.
another argument: everyone agrees that we open too many windows (*far* too many windows) and that we need to change the IDE to do that less. Now if we declare âevery keystroke that used to open a window needs to open a window forever and in all contextsâ, then it will be hard to solve the window-plague⦠Marcus
Window plague maybe, but Ctrl-w is closing them quite fast too. As well as the Windows > Delete Unchanged windows menu entry. Tiling Windows Manager kind of helps too. It is important to have all of those windows when drilling down into a complicated feature with senders and implementors. That is a differentiating factor vs other IDEs. (Ok, Vim can :sp and :vsp a lot but this is not the same feeling). Phil On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 10:13 AM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:
On 03 Oct 2014, at 10:08, Christophe Demarey <Christophe.Demarey@inria.fr> wrote:
Le 3 oct. 2014 à 08:26, Esteban Lorenzano a écrit :
well, but thatâs something that *now* you cannot do. what people will see now is âcmd+i does one thing in playground, and
other thing in other parts of the system".
Maybe it is me but what I see is cmd+i => inspect. I will be more confused to use cmd+o in GT and cmd+i everywhere else.
another argument: everyone agrees that we open too many windows (*far* too many windows) and that we need to change the IDE to do that less.
Now if we declare âevery keystroke that used to open a window needs to open a window forever and in all contextsâ, then it will be hard to solve the window-plagueâ¦
Marcus
Hi, Well, the same argument was used for inspectors before the GTInspector. And now, the amount of inspector windows reduces significantly and you actually gain value in the process (because you keep track of the session). Having windows popping up everywhere is a technical solution, but it does not mean we cannot find a better cognitive solution. I think that the overhead imposed by those windows is quite high and reducing the amount is a worthy goal. Cheers, Doru On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 10:30 AM, phil@highoctane.be <phil@highoctane.be> wrote:
Window plague maybe, but Ctrl-w is closing them quite fast too.
As well as the Windows > Delete Unchanged windows menu entry.
Tiling Windows Manager kind of helps too.
It is important to have all of those windows when drilling down into a complicated feature with senders and implementors. That is a differentiating factor vs other IDEs. (Ok, Vim can :sp and :vsp a lot but this is not the same feeling).
Phil
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 10:13 AM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:
On 03 Oct 2014, at 10:08, Christophe Demarey <Christophe.Demarey@inria.fr> wrote:
Le 3 oct. 2014 à 08:26, Esteban Lorenzano a écrit :
well, but thatâs something that *now* you cannot do. what people will see now is âcmd+i does one thing in playground, and
other thing in other parts of the system".
Maybe it is me but what I see is cmd+i => inspect. I will be more confused to use cmd+o in GT and cmd+i everywhere else.
another argument: everyone agrees that we open too many windows (*far* too many windows) and that we need to change the IDE to do that less.
Now if we declare âevery keystroke that used to open a window needs to open a window forever and in all contextsâ, then it will be hard to solve the window-plagueâ¦
Marcus
-- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"
well⦠but I still keep my argument: current cmd+i semantics is âpopup a new inspectorâ, if we change that *just in the playgroundâ, it will be annoying. anyway, looks like opinions are divided: I believe that using cmd+i is bad, while the rest of the world believe is the best way to go. but since Iâm not sure, Iâm making a poll to see the general opinion :) Esteban
On 03 Oct 2014, at 10:13, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:
On 03 Oct 2014, at 10:08, Christophe Demarey <Christophe.Demarey@inria.fr> wrote:
Le 3 oct. 2014 à 08:26, Esteban Lorenzano a écrit :
well, but thatâs something that *now* you cannot do. what people will see now is âcmd+i does one thing in playground, and other thing in other parts of the system".
Maybe it is me but what I see is cmd+i => inspect. I will be more confused to use cmd+o in GT and cmd+i everywhere else.
another argument: everyone agrees that we open too many windows (*far* too many windows) and that we need to change the IDE to do that less.
Now if we declare âevery keystroke that used to open a window needs to open a window forever and in all contextsâ, then it will be hard to solve the window-plagueâ¦
Marcus
I suggest another thing. We keep Cmd+g as the "ginspect". And when we will work on the next tools will add this command when possible. So, in essence, Cmd+i will become the Cmd+Shift+i from my proposal, and Cmd+g will become the Cmd+i from my proposal. What do you think? Cheers, Doru On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
well⦠but I still keep my argument: current cmd+i semantics is âpopup a new inspectorâ, if we change that *just in the playgroundâ, it will be annoying. anyway, looks like opinions are divided: I believe that using cmd+i is bad, while the rest of the world believe is the best way to go. but since Iâm not sure, Iâm making a poll to see the general opinion :)
Esteban
On 03 Oct 2014, at 10:13, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:
On 03 Oct 2014, at 10:08, Christophe Demarey < Christophe.Demarey@inria.fr> wrote:
Le 3 oct. 2014 à 08:26, Esteban Lorenzano a écrit :
well, but thatâs something that *now* you cannot do. what people will see now is âcmd+i does one thing in playground, and
other thing in other parts of the system".
Maybe it is me but what I see is cmd+i => inspect. I will be more confused to use cmd+o in GT and cmd+i everywhere else.
another argument: everyone agrees that we open too many windows (*far* too many windows) and that we need to change the IDE to do that less.
Now if we declare âevery keystroke that used to open a window needs to open a window forever and in all contextsâ, then it will be hard to solve the window-plagueâ¦
Marcus
-- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"
yeah, I can agree with that :)
On 03 Oct 2014, at 14:27, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
I suggest another thing.
We keep Cmd+g as the "ginspect". And when we will work on the next tools will add this command when possible.
So, in essence, Cmd+i will become the Cmd+Shift+i from my proposal, and Cmd+g will become the Cmd+i from my proposal.
What do you think?
Cheers, Doru
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>> wrote: well⦠but I still keep my argument: current cmd+i semantics is âpopup a new inspectorâ, if we change that *just in the playgroundâ, it will be annoying. anyway, looks like opinions are divided: I believe that using cmd+i is bad, while the rest of the world believe is the best way to go. but since Iâm not sure, Iâm making a poll to see the general opinion :)
Esteban
On 03 Oct 2014, at 10:13, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote:
On 03 Oct 2014, at 10:08, Christophe Demarey <Christophe.Demarey@inria.fr <mailto:Christophe.Demarey@inria.fr>> wrote:
Le 3 oct. 2014 à 08:26, Esteban Lorenzano a écrit :
well, but thatâs something that *now* you cannot do. what people will see now is âcmd+i does one thing in playground, and other thing in other parts of the system".
Maybe it is me but what I see is cmd+i => inspect. I will be more confused to use cmd+o in GT and cmd+i everywhere else.
another argument: everyone agrees that we open too many windows (*far* too many windows) and that we need to change the IDE to do that less.
Now if we declare âevery keystroke that used to open a window needs to open a window forever and in all contextsâ, then it will be hard to solve the window-plagueâ¦
Marcus
-- www.tudorgirba.com <http://www.tudorgirba.com/>
"Every thing has its own flow"
Ok. Then how do we call the action? I like "gInspect", but that is not useful for non-deeply-into-the-joke-people. Would "Go" be fine? Cheers, Doru On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
yeah, I can agree with that :)
On 03 Oct 2014, at 14:27, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
I suggest another thing.
We keep Cmd+g as the "ginspect". And when we will work on the next tools will add this command when possible.
So, in essence, Cmd+i will become the Cmd+Shift+i from my proposal, and Cmd+g will become the Cmd+i from my proposal.
What do you think?
Cheers, Doru
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
well⦠but I still keep my argument: current cmd+i semantics is âpopup a new inspectorâ, if we change that *just in the playgroundâ, it will be annoying. anyway, looks like opinions are divided: I believe that using cmd+i is bad, while the rest of the world believe is the best way to go. but since Iâm not sure, Iâm making a poll to see the general opinion :)
Esteban
On 03 Oct 2014, at 10:13, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:
On 03 Oct 2014, at 10:08, Christophe Demarey < Christophe.Demarey@inria.fr> wrote:
Le 3 oct. 2014 à 08:26, Esteban Lorenzano a écrit :
well, but thatâs something that *now* you cannot do. what people will see now is âcmd+i does one thing in playground, and
other thing in other parts of the system".
Maybe it is me but what I see is cmd+i => inspect. I will be more confused to use cmd+o in GT and cmd+i everywhere else.
another argument: everyone agrees that we open too many windows (*far* too many windows) and that we need to change the IDE to do that less.
Now if we declare âevery keystroke that used to open a window needs to open a window forever and in all contextsâ, then it will be hard to solve the window-plagueâ¦
Marcus
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
-- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"
Or it can be "Do it and go". Doru On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Ok. Then how do we call the action?
I like "gInspect", but that is not useful for non-deeply-into-the-joke-people. Would "Go" be fine?
Cheers, Doru
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
yeah, I can agree with that :)
On 03 Oct 2014, at 14:27, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
I suggest another thing.
We keep Cmd+g as the "ginspect". And when we will work on the next tools will add this command when possible.
So, in essence, Cmd+i will become the Cmd+Shift+i from my proposal, and Cmd+g will become the Cmd+i from my proposal.
What do you think?
Cheers, Doru
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
well⦠but I still keep my argument: current cmd+i semantics is âpopup a new inspectorâ, if we change that *just in the playgroundâ, it will be annoying. anyway, looks like opinions are divided: I believe that using cmd+i is bad, while the rest of the world believe is the best way to go. but since Iâm not sure, Iâm making a poll to see the general opinion :)
Esteban
On 03 Oct 2014, at 10:13, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:
On 03 Oct 2014, at 10:08, Christophe Demarey < Christophe.Demarey@inria.fr> wrote:
Le 3 oct. 2014 à 08:26, Esteban Lorenzano a écrit :
well, but thatâs something that *now* you cannot do. what people will see now is âcmd+i does one thing in playground, and
other thing in other parts of the system".
Maybe it is me but what I see is cmd+i => inspect. I will be more confused to use cmd+o in GT and cmd+i everywhere else.
another argument: everyone agrees that we open too many windows (*far* too many windows) and that we need to change the IDE to do that less.
Now if we declare âevery keystroke that used to open a window needs to open a window forever and in all contextsâ, then it will be hard to solve the window-plagueâ¦
Marcus
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
-- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"
On 03 Oct 2014, at 14:53, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Or it can be "Do it and goâ.
+1
Doru
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com <mailto:tudor@tudorgirba.com>> wrote: Ok. Then how do we call the action?
I like "gInspect", but that is not useful for non-deeply-into-the-joke-people. Would "Go" be fine?
Cheers, Doru
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>> wrote: yeah, I can agree with that :)
On 03 Oct 2014, at 14:27, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com <mailto:tudor@tudorgirba.com>> wrote:
I suggest another thing.
We keep Cmd+g as the "ginspect". And when we will work on the next tools will add this command when possible.
So, in essence, Cmd+i will become the Cmd+Shift+i from my proposal, and Cmd+g will become the Cmd+i from my proposal.
What do you think?
Cheers, Doru
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>> wrote: well⦠but I still keep my argument: current cmd+i semantics is âpopup a new inspectorâ, if we change that *just in the playgroundâ, it will be annoying. anyway, looks like opinions are divided: I believe that using cmd+i is bad, while the rest of the world believe is the best way to go. but since Iâm not sure, Iâm making a poll to see the general opinion :)
Esteban
On 03 Oct 2014, at 10:13, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote:
On 03 Oct 2014, at 10:08, Christophe Demarey <Christophe.Demarey@inria.fr <mailto:Christophe.Demarey@inria.fr>> wrote:
Le 3 oct. 2014 à 08:26, Esteban Lorenzano a écrit :
well, but thatâs something that *now* you cannot do. what people will see now is âcmd+i does one thing in playground, and other thing in other parts of the system".
Maybe it is me but what I see is cmd+i => inspect. I will be more confused to use cmd+o in GT and cmd+i everywhere else.
another argument: everyone agrees that we open too many windows (*far* too many windows) and that we need to change the IDE to do that less.
Now if we declare âevery keystroke that used to open a window needs to open a window forever and in all contextsâ, then it will be hard to solve the window-plagueâ¦
Marcus
-- www.tudorgirba.com <http://www.tudorgirba.com/>
"Every thing has its own flow"
-- www.tudorgirba.com <http://www.tudorgirba.com/>
"Every thing has its own flow"
-- www.tudorgirba.com <http://www.tudorgirba.com/>
"Every thing has its own flow"
+1 On 03 Oct 2014, at 14:53, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Or it can be "Do it and go".
Doru
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote: Ok. Then how do we call the action?
I like "gInspect", but that is not useful for non-deeply-into-the-joke-people. Would "Go" be fine?
Cheers, Doru
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote: yeah, I can agree with that :)
On 03 Oct 2014, at 14:27, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
I suggest another thing.
We keep Cmd+g as the "ginspect". And when we will work on the next tools will add this command when possible.
So, in essence, Cmd+i will become the Cmd+Shift+i from my proposal, and Cmd+g will become the Cmd+i from my proposal.
What do you think?
Cheers, Doru
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote: well⦠but I still keep my argument: current cmd+i semantics is âpopup a new inspectorâ, if we change that *just in the playgroundâ, it will be annoying. anyway, looks like opinions are divided: I believe that using cmd+i is bad, while the rest of the world believe is the best way to go. but since Iâm not sure, Iâm making a poll to see the general opinion :)
Esteban
On 03 Oct 2014, at 10:13, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:
On 03 Oct 2014, at 10:08, Christophe Demarey <Christophe.Demarey@inria.fr> wrote:
Le 3 oct. 2014 à 08:26, Esteban Lorenzano a écrit :
well, but thatâs something that *now* you cannot do. what people will see now is âcmd+i does one thing in playground, and other thing in other parts of the system".
Maybe it is me but what I see is cmd+i => inspect. I will be more confused to use cmd+o in GT and cmd+i everywhere else.
another argument: everyone agrees that we open too many windows (*far* too many windows) and that we need to change the IDE to do that less.
Now if we declare âevery keystroke that used to open a window needs to open a window forever and in all contextsâ, then it will be hard to solve the window-plagueâ¦
Marcus
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
Marcus Denker wrote:
On 03 Oct 2014, at 10:08, Christophe Demarey <Christophe.Demarey@inria.fr> wrote:
Le 3 oct. 2014 à 08:26, Esteban Lorenzano a écrit :
well, but thatâs something that *now* you cannot do. what people will see now is âcmd+i does one thing in playground, and other thing in other parts of the system". Maybe it is me but what I see is cmd+i => inspect. I will be more confused to use cmd+o in GT and cmd+i everywhere else.
another argument: everyone agrees that we open too many windows (*far* too many windows) and that we need to change the IDE to do that less.
Now if we declare âevery keystroke that used to open a window needs to open a window forever and in all contextsâ, then it will be hard to solve the window-plagueâ¦
Marcus
Maybe we should be opening tabs by default. Its a paradigm that worked for web browsers. -ben
On 03 Oct 2014, at 07:47, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Why do you think that the "Cmd+i" option introduces incoherence?
I like the idea of cmd-i for opening in the playground and cmd-I (big I) for spawning a new one. (and the nice popper the we get when âprint itâ should have a play button⦠the âiâ is already great, but I sometimes "print itâ and would like to play it insteadâ¦
Doru
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 11:45 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote: you have to pay attention to other lists other than moose, Alex :) nah, seriously: we have been discussing on a remap, because it is conflicting with other keybindings we have in pharo (cmd+o+[others]).
For now, we have three proposals:
cmd+e âexecuteâ cmd+g âgoâ cmd+i, and remap gtinspector to cmd+I
personally I prefer the second one. the third one looks like a good idea, but it will introduce an incoherence in the system (unless we remap everything, everywhere), so I prefer to stick with âcmd+gâ
Esteban
On 02 Oct 2014, at 23:28, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com> wrote:
It does in the moose image. Pity, this is so useful...
Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
Hi, Exactly, that is the idea behind the "i", but the problem is that we still have to find a nice way of implementing it :). Cheers, Doru On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 8:14 AM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:
On 03 Oct 2014, at 07:47, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Why do you think that the "Cmd+i" option introduces incoherence?
I like the idea of cmd-i for opening in the playground and cmd-I (big I) for spawning a new one.
(and the nice popper the we get when âprint itâ should have a play button⦠the âiâ is already great, but I sometimes "print itâ and would like to play it insteadâ¦
Doru
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 11:45 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
you have to pay attention to other lists other than moose, Alex :) nah, seriously: we have been discussing on a remap, because it is conflicting with other keybindings we have in pharo (cmd+o+[others]).
For now, we have three proposals:
cmd+e âexecuteâ cmd+g âgoâ cmd+i, and remap gtinspector to cmd+I
personally I prefer the second one. the third one looks like a good idea, but it will introduce an incoherence in the system (unless we remap everything, everywhere), so I prefer to stick with âcmd+gâ
Esteban
On 02 Oct 2014, at 23:28, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com> wrote:
It does in the moose image. Pity, this is so useful...
Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
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"Every thing has its own flow"
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