[Pharo-project] Open Pharo debugger from a Seaside wallback
Hi people, I'm using Pharo RC2 with Seaside 2.8.4 version and it's very slow when I trying to debugging a seaside application. In other words, I press the debug link on the seaside application walback and it take to Pharo over 40 seconds to open de imagen debugger. I tried with Seaside 3 developer image and it was the same situation. I'm using pharo on 32 bits Windows 7 in a Core 2 Duo and 2 GB ram memory. Has anybody experimented the same problem or behavior? Tranks, Facundo ps: Please, excuse my poor english.
This seems to be a known problem: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.seaside/20959 Lukas 2010/4/11 Facundo Vozzi <facundov79@gmail.com>:
Hi people, I'm using Pharo RC2 with Seaside 2.8.4 version and it's very slow when I trying to debugging a seaside application. In other words, I press the debug link on the seaside application walback and it take to Pharo over 40 seconds to open de imagen debugger. I tried with Seaside 3 developer image and it was the same situation. I'm using pharo on 32 bits Windows 7 in a Core 2 Duo and 2 GB ram memory. Has anybody experimented the same problem or behavior? Tranks, Facundo ps: Please, excuse my poor english.
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Yes, it's seems to be that issue but its solution didn't repair my problem. I think that the problem is relationated with a network configuration issue so i will continue trying in that way. Thank you Lukas. Facundo On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Lukas Renggli <renggli@gmail.com> wrote:
This seems to be a known problem:
http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.seaside/20959
Lukas
2010/4/11 Facundo Vozzi <facundov79@gmail.com>:
Hi people, I'm using Pharo RC2 with Seaside 2.8.4 version and it's very slow when I trying to debugging a seaside application. In other words, I press the debug link on the seaside application walback and it take to Pharo over 40 seconds to open de imagen debugger. I tried with Seaside 3 developer image and it was the same situation. I'm using pharo on 32 bits Windows 7 in a Core 2 Duo and 2 GB ram memory. Has anybody experimented the same problem or behavior? Tranks, Facundo ps: Please, excuse my poor english.
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I don't have windows, so I cannot help. It would be cool if some Windows/Firefox user could figure out a permanent solution for our side, as this problem keeps on reappearing. Luas 2010/4/11 Facundo Vozzi <facundov79@gmail.com>:
Yes, it's seems to be that issue but its solution didn't repair my problem. I think that the problem is relationated with a network configuration issue so i will continue trying in that way. Thank you Lukas. Facundo On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Lukas Renggli <renggli@gmail.com> wrote:
This seems to be a known problem:
http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.seaside/20959
Lukas
2010/4/11 Facundo Vozzi <facundov79@gmail.com>:
Hi people, I'm using Pharo RC2 with Seaside 2.8.4 version and it's very slow when I trying to debugging a seaside application. In other words, I press the debug link on the seaside application walback and it take to Pharo over 40 seconds to open de imagen debugger. I tried with Seaside 3 developer image and it was the same situation. I'm using pharo on 32 bits Windows 7 in a Core 2 Duo and 2 GB ram memory. Has anybody experimented the same problem or behavior? Tranks, Facundo ps: Please, excuse my poor english.
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Lukas, It happens on my machine with Windows/(Firefox-Chrome-IE 8) and Pharo. But I test it on the same machine with Squeak 4.1 RC4 and it go very very fast to open de smalltalk debugger. Furthermore, Squeak 4.1 RC4 seem to be faster than Pharo, did you note that too or it's only my sensations? Thanks for your attention. Facundo On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Lukas Renggli <renggli@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't have windows, so I cannot help. It would be cool if some Windows/Firefox user could figure out a permanent solution for our side, as this problem keeps on reappearing.
Luas
2010/4/11 Facundo Vozzi <facundov79@gmail.com>:
Yes, it's seems to be that issue but its solution didn't repair my problem. I think that the problem is relationated with a network configuration issue so i will continue trying in that way. Thank you Lukas. Facundo On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Lukas Renggli <renggli@gmail.com> wrote:
This seems to be a known problem:
http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.seaside/20959
Lukas
2010/4/11 Facundo Vozzi <facundov79@gmail.com>:
Hi people, I'm using Pharo RC2 with Seaside 2.8.4 version and it's very slow when I trying to debugging a seaside application. In other words, I press
the
debug link on the seaside application walback and it take to Pharo over 40 seconds to open de imagen debugger. I tried with Seaside 3 developer image and it was the same situation. I'm using pharo on 32 bits Windows 7 in a Core 2 Duo and 2 GB ram memory. Has anybody experimented the same problem or behavior? Tranks, Facundo ps: Please, excuse my poor english.
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On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:37 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
Lukas, It happens on my machine with Windows/(Firefox-Chrome-IE 8) and Pharo.
But I test it on the same machine with Squeak 4.1 RC4 and it go very very fast to open de smalltalk debugger. Furthermore, Squeak 4.1 RC4 seem to be faster than Pharo, did you note that too or it's only my sensations?
Did you check with Pharo 1.1? https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/26762/PharoCore-1.1-11301-UNSTABLE.... In general, Squeak 4.1 should not be compared to Pharo 1.0 speed-wise, but Pharo 1.1 Marcus Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.
On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:41 PM, Marcus Denker wrote:
On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:37 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
Lukas, It happens on my machine with Windows/(Firefox-Chrome-IE 8) and Pharo.
But I test it on the same machine with Squeak 4.1 RC4 and it go very very fast to open de smalltalk debugger. Furthermore, Squeak 4.1 RC4 seem to be faster than Pharo, did you note that too or it's only my sensations?
Did you check with Pharo 1.1?
https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/26762/PharoCore-1.1-11301-UNSTABLE....
In general, Squeak 4.1 should not be compared to Pharo 1.0 speed-wise, but Pharo 1.1
My theory for your bug is that it's this: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=860 We added it to 1.1 on Nov. 01, 2009. Not to 1.0, because 1.0 was supposed to be released "very soon". Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.
Yes we have to kick our asses more often... but squeak is that for that :) Stef On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:54 PM, Marcus Denker wrote:
On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:41 PM, Marcus Denker wrote:
On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:37 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
Lukas, It happens on my machine with Windows/(Firefox-Chrome-IE 8) and Pharo.
But I test it on the same machine with Squeak 4.1 RC4 and it go very very fast to open de smalltalk debugger. Furthermore, Squeak 4.1 RC4 seem to be faster than Pharo, did you note that too or it's only my sensations?
Did you check with Pharo 1.1?
https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/26762/PharoCore-1.1-11301-UNSTABLE....
In general, Squeak 4.1 should not be compared to Pharo 1.0 speed-wise, but Pharo 1.1
My theory for your bug is that it's this:
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=860
We added it to 1.1 on Nov. 01, 2009. Not to 1.0, because 1.0 was supposed to be released "very soon".
Marcus
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On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:54 59PM, Marcus Denker wrote:
On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:41 PM, Marcus Denker wrote:
On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:37 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
Lukas, It happens on my machine with Windows/(Firefox-Chrome-IE 8) and Pharo.
But I test it on the same machine with Squeak 4.1 RC4 and it go very very fast to open de smalltalk debugger. Furthermore, Squeak 4.1 RC4 seem to be faster than Pharo, did you note that too or it's only my sensations?
Did you check with Pharo 1.1?
https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/26762/PharoCore-1.1-11301-UNSTABLE....
In general, Squeak 4.1 should not be compared to Pharo 1.0 speed-wise, but Pharo 1.1
My theory for your bug is that it's this:
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=860
We added it to 1.1 on Nov. 01, 2009. Not to 1.0, because 1.0 was supposed to be released "very soon".
Marcus
It can still be slow in 1.1, depending on where the log is written to. F.ex. I opened an image on Windows under Parallells, which decided it wanted to write to somewhere in the mounted OSX home directory, took a few good seconds for the debugger to open. Cheers, Henry
Marcus, I can't install Seaside on Pharo 1.1(*) but then i'll try again at home. It isn't my point to compare Pharo to Squeak performance but I used Squeak to test this particular situation. Thank you, Facu (*) it's very slow to write the log taking minutes to complete the instalation On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr>wrote:
On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:41 PM, Marcus Denker wrote:
On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:37 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
Lukas, It happens on my machine with Windows/(Firefox-Chrome-IE 8) and Pharo.
But I test it on the same machine with Squeak 4.1 RC4 and it go very
very fast
to open de smalltalk debugger. Furthermore, Squeak 4.1 RC4 seem to be faster than Pharo, did you note that too or it's only my sensations?
Did you check with Pharo 1.1?
https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/26762/PharoCore-1.1-11301-UNSTABLE....
In general, Squeak 4.1 should not be compared to Pharo 1.0 speed-wise,
but Pharo 1.1
My theory for your bug is that it's this:
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=860
We added it to 1.1 on Nov. 01, 2009. Not to 1.0, because 1.0 was supposed to be released "very soon".
Marcus
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On Apr 12, 2010, at 7:45 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
Marcus, I can't install Seaside on Pharo 1.1(*) but then i'll try again at home.
It isn't my point to compare Pharo to Squeak performance but I used Squeak to test this particular situation.
Thank you,
Facu
(*) it's very slow to write the log taking minutes to complete the instalation
which log? Stef
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:
On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:41 PM, Marcus Denker wrote:
On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:37 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
Lukas, It happens on my machine with Windows/(Firefox-Chrome-IE 8) and Pharo.
But I test it on the same machine with Squeak 4.1 RC4 and it go very very fast to open de smalltalk debugger. Furthermore, Squeak 4.1 RC4 seem to be faster than Pharo, did you note that too or it's only my sensations?
Did you check with Pharo 1.1?
https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/26762/PharoCore-1.1-11301-UNSTABLE....
In general, Squeak 4.1 should not be compared to Pharo 1.0 speed-wise, but Pharo 1.1
My theory for your bug is that it's this:
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=860
We added it to 1.1 on Nov. 01, 2009. Not to 1.0, because 1.0 was supposed to be released "very soon".
Marcus
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Another difference maybe the tools that are loaded in Squeak and Pharo. I am not aware what is loaded in Squeak images, but in PharoDev you have OB, OCompletion, RefactoringBrowser, TrueType fonts, Shout, etc. Some of these tools make Pharo a bit more slower than the PharoCore. If they Squeak image you are using doesn't have all those tools, then you should compare to a PharoCore image, not Dev. Pharo core images doesn't have all the dev tools. Cheers Mariano On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr
wrote:
On Apr 12, 2010, at 7:45 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
Marcus, I can't install Seaside on Pharo 1.1(*) but then i'll try again at home.
It isn't my point to compare Pharo to Squeak performance but I used Squeak to test this particular situation.
Thank you,
Facu
(*) it's very slow to write the log taking minutes to complete the instalation
which log?
Stef
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr>
wrote:
On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:41 PM, Marcus Denker wrote:
On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:37 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
Lukas, It happens on my machine with Windows/(Firefox-Chrome-IE 8) and Pharo.
But I test it on the same machine with Squeak 4.1 RC4 and it go very
very fast
to open de smalltalk debugger. Furthermore, Squeak 4.1 RC4 seem to be faster than Pharo, did you note that too or it's only my sensations?
Did you check with Pharo 1.1?
https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/26762/PharoCore-1.1-11301-UNSTABLE....
In general, Squeak 4.1 should not be compared to Pharo 1.0 speed-wise,
but Pharo 1.1
My theory for your bug is that it's this:
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=860
We added it to 1.1 on Nov. 01, 2009. Not to 1.0, because 1.0 was supposed to be released "very soon".
Marcus
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Mariano, I don't what is loaded in Squeak because I only open it to check this particular problem but Squeak 4.1 RC4 looks like Pharo. I used it because it was easy to me load seaside and discard a network connection problem on the operative system level. Cheers, Facu 2010/4/12 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck@gmail.com>
Another difference maybe the tools that are loaded in Squeak and Pharo. I am not aware what is loaded in Squeak images, but in PharoDev you have OB, OCompletion, RefactoringBrowser, TrueType fonts, Shout, etc.
Some of these tools make Pharo a bit more slower than the PharoCore. If they Squeak image you are using doesn't have all those tools, then you should compare to a PharoCore image, not Dev. Pharo core images doesn't have all the dev tools.
Cheers
Mariano
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Stéphane Ducasse < stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
On Apr 12, 2010, at 7:45 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
Marcus, I can't install Seaside on Pharo 1.1(*) but then i'll try again at home.
It isn't my point to compare Pharo to Squeak performance but I used Squeak to test this particular situation.
Thank you,
Facu
(*) it's very slow to write the log taking minutes to complete the instalation
which log?
Stef
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr>
wrote:
On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:41 PM, Marcus Denker wrote:
On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:37 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
Lukas, It happens on my machine with Windows/(Firefox-Chrome-IE 8) and
Pharo.
But I test it on the same machine with Squeak 4.1 RC4 and it go very
very fast
to open de smalltalk debugger. Furthermore, Squeak 4.1 RC4 seem to be faster than Pharo, did you note that too or it's only my sensations?
Did you check with Pharo 1.1?
https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/26762/PharoCore-1.1-11301-UNSTABLE....
In general, Squeak 4.1 should not be compared to Pharo 1.0 speed-wise,
but Pharo 1.1
My theory for your bug is that it's this:
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=860
We added it to 1.1 on Nov. 01, 2009. Not to 1.0, because 1.0 was supposed to be released "very soon".
Marcus
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Stef, It took to me over 20 minutes to complete the Seaside 2.8 installation and when I interrupted it the debugger opened when the system was writting the pharoXXX.changes always but I couldn't check what is happening. I will check it again. Facu ps: I refered to pharoXXX.changes as "log" because of Visual Smalltalk where the "changes" are called changes.log, excuse me. On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr
wrote:
On Apr 12, 2010, at 7:45 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
Marcus, I can't install Seaside on Pharo 1.1(*) but then i'll try again at home.
It isn't my point to compare Pharo to Squeak performance but I used Squeak to test this particular situation.
Thank you,
Facu
(*) it's very slow to write the log taking minutes to complete the instalation
which log?
Stef
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr>
wrote:
On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:41 PM, Marcus Denker wrote:
On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:37 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
Lukas, It happens on my machine with Windows/(Firefox-Chrome-IE 8) and Pharo.
But I test it on the same machine with Squeak 4.1 RC4 and it go very
very fast
to open de smalltalk debugger. Furthermore, Squeak 4.1 RC4 seem to be faster than Pharo, did you note that too or it's only my sensations?
Did you check with Pharo 1.1?
https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/26762/PharoCore-1.1-11301-UNSTABLE....
In general, Squeak 4.1 should not be compared to Pharo 1.0 speed-wise,
but Pharo 1.1
My theory for your bug is that it's this:
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=860
We added it to 1.1 on Nov. 01, 2009. Not to 1.0, because 1.0 was supposed to be released "very soon".
Marcus
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This is really strange. Can you describe your setup? Do you have an antivirus? And with Squeak you do not have that behavior? We are loading larger code than seaside in Pharo and we do not have this problem. So I would really like to understand. Could you post your image somewhere? Stef On Apr 12, 2010, at 9:27 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
Stef, It took to me over 20 minutes to complete the Seaside 2.8 installation and when I interrupted it the debugger opened when the system was writting the pharoXXX.changes always but I couldn't check what is happening.
I will check it again.
Facu
ps: I refered to pharoXXX.changes as "log" because of Visual Smalltalk where the "changes" are called changes.log, excuse me.
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
On Apr 12, 2010, at 7:45 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
Marcus, I can't install Seaside on Pharo 1.1(*) but then i'll try again at home.
It isn't my point to compare Pharo to Squeak performance but I used Squeak to test this particular situation.
Thank you,
Facu
(*) it's very slow to write the log taking minutes to complete the instalation
which log?
Stef
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:
On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:41 PM, Marcus Denker wrote:
On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:37 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
Lukas, It happens on my machine with Windows/(Firefox-Chrome-IE 8) and Pharo.
But I test it on the same machine with Squeak 4.1 RC4 and it go very very fast to open de smalltalk debugger. Furthermore, Squeak 4.1 RC4 seem to be faster than Pharo, did you note that too or it's only my sensations?
Did you check with Pharo 1.1?
https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/26762/PharoCore-1.1-11301-UNSTABLE....
In general, Squeak 4.1 should not be compared to Pharo 1.0 speed-wise, but Pharo 1.1
My theory for your bug is that it's this:
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=860
We added it to 1.1 on Nov. 01, 2009. Not to 1.0, because 1.0 was supposed to be released "very soon".
Marcus
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Stef, I'm using Pharo 1.0 RC2 with Seaside 2.8.4 and all is fine but it took over 15 seconds open a smalltalk debugger from a Seaside wallback. It was the reason of my first mail. I tried with Squeak 4.1 RC4, to discard a network configuration problem at operative system level, and i don't have the problem. It takes 1 second to open the debugger. Then, Marcus ask to me if i had the same problem with "PharoCore-1.1-11301-UNSTABLE", at that time I download it, installed Seaside and try again. To Install Seaside took to me over 20 minutes but I had been instaled it on Pharo 1.0 and was been fine. Is it more clear now ?. Please, sorry for my poor English. Facu On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr
wrote:
This is really strange. Can you describe your setup? Do you have an antivirus? And with Squeak you do not have that behavior? We are loading larger code than seaside in Pharo and we do not have this problem. So I would really like to understand. Could you post your image somewhere?
Stef
On Apr 12, 2010, at 9:27 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
Stef, It took to me over 20 minutes to complete the Seaside 2.8 installation and when I interrupted it the debugger opened when the system was writting the pharoXXX.changes always but I couldn't check what is happening.
I will check it again.
Facu
ps: I refered to pharoXXX.changes as "log" because of Visual Smalltalk where the "changes" are called changes.log, excuse me.
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Stéphane Ducasse < stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
On Apr 12, 2010, at 7:45 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
Marcus, I can't install Seaside on Pharo 1.1(*) but then i'll try again at home.
It isn't my point to compare Pharo to Squeak performance but I used Squeak to test this particular situation.
Thank you,
Facu
(*) it's very slow to write the log taking minutes to complete the instalation
which log?
Stef
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Marcus Denker <
marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:
On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:41 PM, Marcus Denker wrote:
On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:37 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
Lukas, It happens on my machine with Windows/(Firefox-Chrome-IE 8) and
Pharo.
But I test it on the same machine with Squeak 4.1 RC4 and it go very
very fast
to open de smalltalk debugger. Furthermore, Squeak 4.1 RC4 seem to be faster than Pharo, did you note that too or it's only my sensations?
Did you check with Pharo 1.1?
https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/26762/PharoCore-1.1-11301-UNSTABLE....
In general, Squeak 4.1 should not be compared to Pharo 1.0
speed-wise, but Pharo 1.1
My theory for your bug is that it's this:
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=860
We added it to 1.1 on Nov. 01, 2009. Not to 1.0, because 1.0 was supposed to be released "very soon".
Marcus
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On Apr 12, 2010, at 10:18 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
Stef, I'm using Pharo 1.0 RC2 with Seaside 2.8.4 and all is fine but it took over 15 seconds open a smalltalk debugger from a Seaside wallback. It was the reason of my first mail. I tried with Squeak 4.1 RC4, to discard a network configuration problem at operative system level, and i don't have the problem. It takes 1 second to open the debugger. Then, Marcus ask to me if i had the same problem with "PharoCore-1.1-11301-UNSTABLE", at that time I download it, installed Seaside and try again. To Install Seaside took to me over 20 minutes but I had been instaled it on Pharo 1.0 and was been fine.
ok so with 1.1 this is working? There were a **lot** of changes in 1.1. We will release shortly after 1.0 and much much faster :)
Is it more clear now ?. Please, sorry for my poor English.
Don;t worry. write simple sentences and we will understand you.
Facu
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote: This is really strange. Can you describe your setup? Do you have an antivirus? And with Squeak you do not have that behavior? We are loading larger code than seaside in Pharo and we do not have this problem. So I would really like to understand. Could you post your image somewhere?
Stef
On Apr 12, 2010, at 9:27 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
Stef, It took to me over 20 minutes to complete the Seaside 2.8 installation and when I interrupted it the debugger opened when the system was writting the pharoXXX.changes always but I couldn't check what is happening.
I will check it again.
Facu
ps: I refered to pharoXXX.changes as "log" because of Visual Smalltalk where the "changes" are called changes.log, excuse me.
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
On Apr 12, 2010, at 7:45 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
Marcus, I can't install Seaside on Pharo 1.1(*) but then i'll try again at home.
It isn't my point to compare Pharo to Squeak performance but I used Squeak to test this particular situation.
Thank you,
Facu
(*) it's very slow to write the log taking minutes to complete the instalation
which log?
Stef
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:
On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:41 PM, Marcus Denker wrote:
On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:37 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
Lukas, It happens on my machine with Windows/(Firefox-Chrome-IE 8) and Pharo.
But I test it on the same machine with Squeak 4.1 RC4 and it go very very fast to open de smalltalk debugger. Furthermore, Squeak 4.1 RC4 seem to be faster than Pharo, did you note that too or it's only my sensations?
Did you check with Pharo 1.1?
https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/26762/PharoCore-1.1-11301-UNSTABLE....
In general, Squeak 4.1 should not be compared to Pharo 1.0 speed-wise, but Pharo 1.1
My theory for your bug is that it's this:
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=860
We added it to 1.1 on Nov. 01, 2009. Not to 1.0, because 1.0 was supposed to be released "very soon".
Marcus
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It continues taking longer 15 seconds on 1.1 too, there isn't change. I will try to compare with Squeak looking for the possible problem and its solution. nobody has the same problem? Thank you, Facu On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr
wrote:
On Apr 12, 2010, at 10:18 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
Stef, I'm using Pharo 1.0 RC2 with Seaside 2.8.4 and all is fine but it took over 15 seconds open a smalltalk debugger from a Seaside wallback. It was the reason of my first mail. I tried with Squeak 4.1 RC4, to discard a network configuration problem at operative system level, and i don't have the problem. It takes 1 second to open the debugger. Then, Marcus ask to me if i had the same problem with "PharoCore-1.1-11301-UNSTABLE", at that time I download it, installed Seaside and try again. To Install Seaside took to me over 20 minutes but I had been instaled it on Pharo 1.0 and was been fine.
ok so with 1.1 this is working? There were a **lot** of changes in 1.1. We will release shortly after 1.0 and much much faster :)
Is it more clear now ?. Please, sorry for my poor English.
Don;t worry. write simple sentences and we will understand you.
Facu
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <
stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
This is really strange. Can you describe your setup? Do you have an antivirus? And with Squeak you do not have that behavior? We are loading larger code than seaside in Pharo and we do not have this problem. So I would really like to understand. Could you post your image somewhere?
Stef
On Apr 12, 2010, at 9:27 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
Stef, It took to me over 20 minutes to complete the Seaside 2.8 installation and when I interrupted it the debugger opened when the system was writting the pharoXXX.changes always but I couldn't check what is happening.
I will check it again.
Facu
ps: I refered to pharoXXX.changes as "log" because of Visual Smalltalk where the "changes" are called changes.log, excuse me.
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Stéphane Ducasse < stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
On Apr 12, 2010, at 7:45 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
Marcus, I can't install Seaside on Pharo 1.1(*) but then i'll try again at home.
It isn't my point to compare Pharo to Squeak performance but I used Squeak to test this particular situation.
Thank you,
Facu
(*) it's very slow to write the log taking minutes to complete the instalation
which log?
Stef
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Marcus Denker <
marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:
On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:41 PM, Marcus Denker wrote:
On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:37 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
Lukas, It happens on my machine with Windows/(Firefox-Chrome-IE 8) and
Pharo.
But I test it on the same machine with Squeak 4.1 RC4 and it go
very very fast
to open de smalltalk debugger. Furthermore, Squeak 4.1 RC4 seem to be faster than Pharo, did you note that too or it's only my sensations?
Did you check with Pharo 1.1?
https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/26762/PharoCore-1.1-11301-UNSTABLE....
In general, Squeak 4.1 should not be compared to Pharo 1.0
speed-wise, but Pharo 1.1
My theory for your bug is that it's this:
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=860
We added it to 1.1 on Nov. 01, 2009. Not to 1.0, because 1.0 was supposed to be released "very soon".
Marcus
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On Apr 12, 2010, at 10:46 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
It continues taking longer 15 seconds on 1.1 too, there isn't change. I will try to compare with Squeak looking for the possible problem and its solution.
nobody has the same problem?
No and this is strange because 1.1 got a lot of the stream changes that made squeak faster.
Thank you, Facu
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
On Apr 12, 2010, at 10:18 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
Stef, I'm using Pharo 1.0 RC2 with Seaside 2.8.4 and all is fine but it took over 15 seconds open a smalltalk debugger from a Seaside wallback. It was the reason of my first mail. I tried with Squeak 4.1 RC4, to discard a network configuration problem at operative system level, and i don't have the problem. It takes 1 second to open the debugger. Then, Marcus ask to me if i had the same problem with "PharoCore-1.1-11301-UNSTABLE", at that time I download it, installed Seaside and try again. To Install Seaside took to me over 20 minutes but I had been instaled it on Pharo 1.0 and was been fine.
ok so with 1.1 this is working? There were a **lot** of changes in 1.1. We will release shortly after 1.0 and much much faster :)
Is it more clear now ?. Please, sorry for my poor English.
Don;t worry. write simple sentences and we will understand you.
Facu
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote: This is really strange. Can you describe your setup? Do you have an antivirus? And with Squeak you do not have that behavior? We are loading larger code than seaside in Pharo and we do not have this problem. So I would really like to understand. Could you post your image somewhere?
Stef
On Apr 12, 2010, at 9:27 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
Stef, It took to me over 20 minutes to complete the Seaside 2.8 installation and when I interrupted it the debugger opened when the system was writting the pharoXXX.changes always but I couldn't check what is happening.
I will check it again.
Facu
ps: I refered to pharoXXX.changes as "log" because of Visual Smalltalk where the "changes" are called changes.log, excuse me.
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
On Apr 12, 2010, at 7:45 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
Marcus, I can't install Seaside on Pharo 1.1(*) but then i'll try again at home.
It isn't my point to compare Pharo to Squeak performance but I used Squeak to test this particular situation.
Thank you,
Facu
(*) it's very slow to write the log taking minutes to complete the instalation
which log?
Stef
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:
On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:41 PM, Marcus Denker wrote:
On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:37 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
Lukas, It happens on my machine with Windows/(Firefox-Chrome-IE 8) and Pharo.
But I test it on the same machine with Squeak 4.1 RC4 and it go very very fast to open de smalltalk debugger. Furthermore, Squeak 4.1 RC4 seem to be faster than Pharo, did you note that too or it's only my sensations?
Did you check with Pharo 1.1?
https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/26762/PharoCore-1.1-11301-UNSTABLE....
In general, Squeak 4.1 should not be compared to Pharo 1.0 speed-wise, but Pharo 1.1
My theory for your bug is that it's this:
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=860
We added it to 1.1 on Nov. 01, 2009. Not to 1.0, because 1.0 was supposed to be released "very soon".
Marcus
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As Stef said...do you have some anti-virus program like nod-32 or something like that ? in such case you should exclude the directory where you have your Pharo image. On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr
wrote:
On Apr 12, 2010, at 10:46 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
It continues taking longer 15 seconds on 1.1 too, there isn't change. I will try to compare with Squeak looking for the possible problem and its solution.
nobody has the same problem?
No and this is strange because 1.1 got a lot of the stream changes that made squeak faster.
Thank you, Facu
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <
stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
On Apr 12, 2010, at 10:18 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
Stef, I'm using Pharo 1.0 RC2 with Seaside 2.8.4 and all is fine but it took
over 15 seconds open a smalltalk debugger from a Seaside wallback. It was the reason of my first mail.
I tried with Squeak 4.1 RC4, to discard a network configuration problem at operative system level, and i don't have the problem. It takes 1 second to open the debugger. Then, Marcus ask to me if i had the same problem with "PharoCore-1.1-11301-UNSTABLE", at that time I download it, installed Seaside and try again. To Install Seaside took to me over 20 minutes but I had been instaled it on Pharo 1.0 and was been fine.
ok so with 1.1 this is working? There were a **lot** of changes in 1.1. We will release shortly after 1.0 and much much faster :)
Is it more clear now ?. Please, sorry for my poor English.
Don;t worry. write simple sentences and we will understand you.
Facu
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <
stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
This is really strange. Can you describe your setup? Do you have an antivirus? And with Squeak you do not have that behavior? We are loading larger code than seaside in Pharo and we do not have this problem. So I would really like to understand. Could you post your image somewhere?
Stef
On Apr 12, 2010, at 9:27 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
Stef, It took to me over 20 minutes to complete the Seaside 2.8 installation and when I interrupted it the debugger opened when the system was writting the pharoXXX.changes always but I couldn't check what is happening.
I will check it again.
Facu
ps: I refered to pharoXXX.changes as "log" because of Visual Smalltalk where the "changes" are called changes.log, excuse me.
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Stéphane Ducasse < stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
On Apr 12, 2010, at 7:45 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
Marcus, I can't install Seaside on Pharo 1.1(*) but then i'll try again at home.
It isn't my point to compare Pharo to Squeak performance but I used Squeak to test this particular situation.
Thank you,
Facu
(*) it's very slow to write the log taking minutes to complete the instalation
which log?
Stef
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Marcus Denker <
marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:
On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:41 PM, Marcus Denker wrote:
On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:37 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
Lukas, It happens on my machine with Windows/(Firefox-Chrome-IE 8) and
Pharo.
But I test it on the same machine with Squeak 4.1 RC4 and it go
very very fast
to open de smalltalk debugger. Furthermore, Squeak 4.1 RC4 seem to be faster than Pharo, did you note that too or it's only my sensations?
Did you check with Pharo 1.1?
https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/26762/PharoCore-1.1-11301-UNSTABLE....
In general, Squeak 4.1 should not be compared to Pharo 1.0
speed-wise, but Pharo 1.1
My theory for your bug is that it's this:
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=860
We added it to 1.1 on Nov. 01, 2009. Not to 1.0, because 1.0 was supposed to be released "very soon".
Marcus
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Mariano, I had to uninstall nod-32 and the problem disappeared. I don't know why the problem doesn't happen with Squeak but it's ok on Pharo now. Thanks and sorry by my confusion, Facu 2010/4/12 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck@gmail.com>
As Stef said...do you have some anti-virus program like nod-32 or something like that ? in such case you should exclude the directory where you have your Pharo image.
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Stéphane Ducasse < stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
On Apr 12, 2010, at 10:46 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
It continues taking longer 15 seconds on 1.1 too, there isn't change. I will try to compare with Squeak looking for the possible problem and its solution.
nobody has the same problem?
No and this is strange because 1.1 got a lot of the stream changes that made squeak faster.
Thank you, Facu
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <
stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
On Apr 12, 2010, at 10:18 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
Stef, I'm using Pharo 1.0 RC2 with Seaside 2.8.4 and all is fine but it took
over 15 seconds open a smalltalk debugger from a Seaside wallback. It was the reason of my first mail.
I tried with Squeak 4.1 RC4, to discard a network configuration problem at operative system level, and i don't have the problem. It takes 1 second to open the debugger. Then, Marcus ask to me if i had the same problem with "PharoCore-1.1-11301-UNSTABLE", at that time I download it, installed Seaside and try again. To Install Seaside took to me over 20 minutes but I had been instaled it on Pharo 1.0 and was been fine.
ok so with 1.1 this is working? There were a **lot** of changes in 1.1. We will release shortly after 1.0 and much much faster :)
Is it more clear now ?. Please, sorry for my poor English.
Don;t worry. write simple sentences and we will understand you.
Facu
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <
stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
This is really strange. Can you describe your setup? Do you have an antivirus? And with Squeak you do not have that behavior? We are loading larger code than seaside in Pharo and we do not have this problem. So I would really like to understand. Could you post your image somewhere?
Stef
On Apr 12, 2010, at 9:27 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
Stef, It took to me over 20 minutes to complete the Seaside 2.8 installation and when I interrupted it the debugger opened when the system was writting the pharoXXX.changes always but I couldn't check what is happening.
I will check it again.
Facu
ps: I refered to pharoXXX.changes as "log" because of Visual Smalltalk where the "changes" are called changes.log, excuse me.
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Stéphane Ducasse < stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
On Apr 12, 2010, at 7:45 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
Marcus, I can't install Seaside on Pharo 1.1(*) but then i'll try again at home.
It isn't my point to compare Pharo to Squeak performance but I used Squeak to test this particular situation.
Thank you,
Facu
(*) it's very slow to write the log taking minutes to complete the instalation
which log?
Stef
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Marcus Denker <
marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:
On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:41 PM, Marcus Denker wrote:
On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:37 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
Lukas, It happens on my machine with Windows/(Firefox-Chrome-IE 8) and
Pharo.
But I test it on the same machine with Squeak 4.1 RC4 and it go
very very fast
to open de smalltalk debugger. Furthermore, Squeak 4.1 RC4 seem to be faster than Pharo, did you note that too or it's only my sensations?
Did you check with Pharo 1.1?
https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/26762/PharoCore-1.1-11301-UNSTABLE....
In general, Squeak 4.1 should not be compared to Pharo 1.0
speed-wise, but Pharo 1.1
My theory for your bug is that it's this:
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=860
We added it to 1.1 on Nov. 01, 2009. Not to 1.0, because 1.0 was supposed to be released "very soon".
Marcus
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Thanks for asking and answering the problem. I've add an item to www.pharo-project.org/documentation/faq as it has become a FAQ. Adrian On Apr 14, 2010, at 15:21 , Facundo Vozzi wrote:
Mariano, I had to uninstall nod-32 and the problem disappeared. I don't know why the problem doesn't happen with Squeak but it's ok on Pharo now.
Thanks and sorry by my confusion, Facu
2010/4/12 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck@gmail.com>
As Stef said...do you have some anti-virus program like nod-32 or something like that ? in such case you should exclude the directory where you have your Pharo image.
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Stéphane Ducasse < stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
On Apr 12, 2010, at 10:46 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
It continues taking longer 15 seconds on 1.1 too, there isn't change. I will try to compare with Squeak looking for the possible problem and its solution.
nobody has the same problem?
No and this is strange because 1.1 got a lot of the stream changes that made squeak faster.
Thank you, Facu
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <
stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
On Apr 12, 2010, at 10:18 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
Stef, I'm using Pharo 1.0 RC2 with Seaside 2.8.4 and all is fine but it took
over 15 seconds open a smalltalk debugger from a Seaside wallback. It was the reason of my first mail.
I tried with Squeak 4.1 RC4, to discard a network configuration problem at operative system level, and i don't have the problem. It takes 1 second to open the debugger. Then, Marcus ask to me if i had the same problem with "PharoCore-1.1-11301-UNSTABLE", at that time I download it, installed Seaside and try again. To Install Seaside took to me over 20 minutes but I had been instaled it on Pharo 1.0 and was been fine.
ok so with 1.1 this is working? There were a **lot** of changes in 1.1. We will release shortly after 1.0 and much much faster :)
Is it more clear now ?. Please, sorry for my poor English.
Don;t worry. write simple sentences and we will understand you.
Facu
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <
stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
This is really strange. Can you describe your setup? Do you have an antivirus? And with Squeak you do not have that behavior? We are loading larger code than seaside in Pharo and we do not have this problem. So I would really like to understand. Could you post your image somewhere?
Stef
On Apr 12, 2010, at 9:27 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
Stef, It took to me over 20 minutes to complete the Seaside 2.8 installation and when I interrupted it the debugger opened when the system was writting the pharoXXX.changes always but I couldn't check what is happening.
I will check it again.
Facu
ps: I refered to pharoXXX.changes as "log" because of Visual Smalltalk where the "changes" are called changes.log, excuse me.
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Stéphane Ducasse < stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
On Apr 12, 2010, at 7:45 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
Marcus, I can't install Seaside on Pharo 1.1(*) but then i'll try again at home.
It isn't my point to compare Pharo to Squeak performance but I used Squeak to test this particular situation.
Thank you,
Facu
(*) it's very slow to write the log taking minutes to complete the instalation
which log?
Stef
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Marcus Denker <
marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:
On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:41 PM, Marcus Denker wrote:
On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:37 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
Lukas, It happens on my machine with Windows/(Firefox-Chrome-IE 8) and
Pharo.
But I test it on the same machine with Squeak 4.1 RC4 and it go
very very fast
to open de smalltalk debugger. Furthermore, Squeak 4.1 RC4 seem to be faster than Pharo, did you note that too or it's only my sensations?
Did you check with Pharo 1.1?
https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/26762/PharoCore-1.1-11301-UNSTABLE....
In general, Squeak 4.1 should not be compared to Pharo 1.0
speed-wise, but Pharo 1.1
My theory for your bug is that it's this:
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=860
We added it to 1.1 on Nov. 01, 2009. Not to 1.0, because 1.0 was supposed to be released "very soon".
Marcus
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The problem SHOULD happens with both, Squeak and Pharo. The problem is basically that when using Monticello (mostly) some files like .changes are modifying a lot and then, the Antivirus is trying to analyze it. This problem has appeared several times. Mostly with Nod32 but also with other antivirus. The easiest solution is to add the directory where the .image and .changes are, to the "excluded" folders in the Nod32 configuration. Cheers Mariano On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Adrian Lienhard <adi@netstyle.ch> wrote:
Thanks for asking and answering the problem. I've add an item to www.pharo-project.org/documentation/faq as it has become a FAQ.
Adrian
On Apr 14, 2010, at 15:21 , Facundo Vozzi wrote:
Mariano, I had to uninstall nod-32 and the problem disappeared. I don't know why the problem doesn't happen with Squeak but it's ok on Pharo now.
Thanks and sorry by my confusion, Facu
2010/4/12 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck@gmail.com>
As Stef said...do you have some anti-virus program like nod-32 or something like that ? in such case you should exclude the directory where you have your Pharo image.
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Stéphane Ducasse < stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
On Apr 12, 2010, at 10:46 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
It continues taking longer 15 seconds on 1.1 too, there isn't change.
I
will try to compare with Squeak looking for the possible problem and its solution.
nobody has the same problem?
No and this is strange because 1.1 got a lot of the stream changes that made squeak faster.
Thank you, Facu
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <
stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
On Apr 12, 2010, at 10:18 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
Stef, I'm using Pharo 1.0 RC2 with Seaside 2.8.4 and all is fine but it
took over 15 seconds open a smalltalk debugger from a Seaside wallback. It was the reason of my first mail.
I tried with Squeak 4.1 RC4, to discard a network configuration problem at operative system level, and i don't have the problem. It takes 1 second to open the debugger. Then, Marcus ask to me if i had the same problem with "PharoCore-1.1-11301-UNSTABLE", at that time I download it, installed Seaside and try again. To Install Seaside took to me over 20 minutes but I had been instaled it on Pharo 1.0 and was been fine.
ok so with 1.1 this is working? There were a **lot** of changes in 1.1. We will release shortly after 1.0 and much much faster :)
Is it more clear now ?. Please, sorry for my poor English.
Don;t worry. write simple sentences and we will understand you.
Facu
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <
stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
This is really strange. Can you describe your setup? Do you have an antivirus? And with Squeak you do not have that behavior? We are loading larger code than seaside in Pharo and we do not have this problem. So I would really like to understand. Could you post your image somewhere?
Stef
On Apr 12, 2010, at 9:27 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
Stef, It took to me over 20 minutes to complete the Seaside 2.8 installation and when I interrupted it the debugger opened when the system was writting the pharoXXX.changes always but I couldn't check what is happening.
I will check it again.
Facu
ps: I refered to pharoXXX.changes as "log" because of Visual Smalltalk where the "changes" are called changes.log, excuse me.
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Stéphane Ducasse < stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
On Apr 12, 2010, at 7:45 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
Marcus, I can't install Seaside on Pharo 1.1(*) but then i'll try again at home.
It isn't my point to compare Pharo to Squeak performance but I used Squeak to test this particular situation.
Thank you,
Facu
(*) it's very slow to write the log taking minutes to complete the instalation
which log?
Stef
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Marcus Denker <
marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:
On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:41 PM, Marcus Denker wrote:
On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:37 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
Lukas, It happens on my machine with Windows/(Firefox-Chrome-IE 8) and
Pharo.
But I test it on the same machine with Squeak 4.1 RC4 and it go
very very fast
to open de smalltalk debugger. Furthermore, Squeak 4.1 RC4 seem to be faster than Pharo, did you note that too or it's only my sensations?
Did you check with Pharo 1.1?
https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/26762/PharoCore-1.1-11301-UNSTABLE....
In general, Squeak 4.1 should not be compared to Pharo 1.0
speed-wise, but Pharo 1.1
My theory for your bug is that it's this:
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=860
We added it to 1.1 on Nov. 01, 2009. Not to 1.0, because 1.0 was supposed to be released "very soon".
Marcus
-- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.
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Marcus, it's took to me over 20 minutes complete the Seaside 2.8 instalation and the problem persist. It takes 15 seconds to open the smalltalk debugger from the seaside wallback page. Facu On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr>wrote:
On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:37 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
Lukas, It happens on my machine with Windows/(Firefox-Chrome-IE 8) and Pharo.
But I test it on the same machine with Squeak 4.1 RC4 and it go very very fast to open de smalltalk debugger. Furthermore, Squeak 4.1 RC4 seem to be faster than Pharo, did you note that too or it's only my sensations?
Did you check with Pharo 1.1?
https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/26762/PharoCore-1.1-11301-UNSTABLE....
In general, Squeak 4.1 should not be compared to Pharo 1.0 speed-wise, but Pharo 1.1
Marcus
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