Another difference maybe� the tools that are loaded in Squeak and Pharo. I am not aware what is loaded in Squeak images, but in PharoDev you have OB, OCompletion, RefactoringBrowser, TrueType fonts, Shout, etc.

Some of these tools make Pharo a bit more slower than the PharoCore. If they Squeak image you are using doesn't have all those tools, then you should compare to a PharoCore image, not Dev. Pharo core images doesn't have all the dev tools.

Cheers

Mariano

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 3:05 PM, St�phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:

On Apr 12, 2010, at 7:45 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:

> Marcus,
> I can't install Seaside on Pharo 1.1(*) but then i'll try again at home.
>
> It isn't my point to compare Pharo to Squeak performance but I used Squeak to test this particular situation.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Facu
>
> (*) it's very slow to write the log taking minutes to complete the instalation

which log?

Stef

>
> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:
>
> On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:41 PM, Marcus Denker wrote:
>
> >
> > On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:37 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
> >
> >> Lukas,
> >> It happens on my machine with Windows/(Firefox-Chrome-IE 8) and Pharo.
> >>
> >> But I test it on the same machine with Squeak 4.1 RC4 and it go very very fast
> >> to open de smalltalk debugger.
> >> Furthermore, Squeak 4.1 RC4 seem to be faster than Pharo, did you note that too or it's only my sensations?
> >>
> >
> > Did you check with Pharo 1.1?
> >
> > � � � https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/26762/PharoCore-1.1-11301-UNSTABLE.1.zip
> >
> > In general, Squeak 4.1 should not be compared to Pharo 1.0 speed-wise, but Pharo 1.1
> >
>
> My theory for your bug is that it's this:
>
> � � � �http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=860
>
> We added it to 1.1 on Nov. 01, 2009. Not to 1.0, because 1.0 was supposed to be released
> "very soon".
>
> � � � �Marcus
>
>
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