On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 1:26 PM, Cédrick Béler <cdrick65@gmail.com <mailto:cdrick65@gmail.com>> wrote: Little feedback too.
I was surprised by the new download as some students had to install on windows⦠hopefully, I had old win versions but it has disturbed me :) Still handy and straightforward to just put an image on the VM.
Butâ¦this being said, I just tried on Mac and this works nicely and this is true that launcher makes the management of image clearer and easier.. I donât know about windows but I have to care about as 98% of students uses Pharo on windows...
I was thinking of some adjustments: 1) maybe a default/advanced mode on the launcher to show only, as default, Mooc/PBE5/Official distributions.
did you see that the Launcher already includes this? There is a Pharo Mooc item.
Yes but I was more thinking about hiding most of elements of the tree, especially Jenkins. To me a newcomer only need to see (at first) official distributions + MOOC + PBE5. I canât find the official PBE5 image. It doesnât seem to be the raw Pharo5 ? If not present, is it possible to add it ? I think this is important (if doc cannot be updated) to keep the proper book related images.
2) a proper icon name to display in OSâs task bars. When several image are opened, they should have different icons, at least different name when hovering, and not only Pharo.
The PharoLauncher should be named Pharo Launcher :). Now we should get a nice icon.
Yes :) I would go for a circle containing three circles (circle being the pharo logo like the quick pic hack below) :) => image all the way downsâ¦
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A more general feedback is about cloud drive OSâs (iCloud Drive, Dropbox, â¦). I have 3 macâs (pro and personal). I put often files in a directory that are synchronized across these devices. - sometimes I get a message that an image are in different states - sync image might be long (+changes) depending on network conditions
I think the question is important as the launcher download in the Document folder (OSX) and this directory is synchronized by default. What do you think about such common situation ? What are your common practices ? - lets says on two Macs and works on both - or I use a dropbox folder
=> cloud drive are cool and my impression is that we could take a better advantage of them for data that could be shared between (personal) images (Play-Cache ? Packages-cache ? ⦠) ==> would it be possible to have several files for one image (chunked over time so only the last chunk is modified and then less file would be synchronized) - (I donât know at all if possible) ? ==> same for changes⦠but this one should be easier I think.
=> I also find longer to share pharo system the old ways - zipping (or not) via USB - I think git integration produces a large number of files that relies slows down system copy paste (if only image this is ok)â¦
No idea about that ? I finally resolved to change the default image and VM dir⦠Documents is syncing on Macs, and when your connection is slow⦠thatâs quite problematics (especially when you do image experiments like trying to graphs more than 2Million objects ^^). I finally got my space low warning (I may retry on a better computer with a 64 bits image) ^^ Side note: ok image grows, but the default is about 200MB in memory for me (Launcher is 115MB here)⦠when you see safari tab being always more Thant 200MB (and this time I have only one opened tab which is rare)⦠Safari is not an exception, I find Pharo memory related concern still very reasonable (+ it will improve once the bootstrap is production ready). Cheers, Cédrick
