On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 1:26 PM, C��drick B��ler <cdrick65@gmail.com> wrote:
Little feedback too.

I was surprised by the new download as some students had to install on windows��� hopefully, I had old win versions but it has disturbed me :)
Still handy and straightforward to just put an image on the VM.

But���this being said, I just tried on Mac and this works nicely and this is true that launcher makes the management of image clearer and easier..
I don���t know about windows but I have to care about as 98% of students uses Pharo on windows...

I was thinking of some adjustments:
1) maybe a default/advanced mode on the launcher to show only, as default,  Mooc/PBE5/Official distributions.


did you see that the Launcher already includes this?
There is a Pharo Mooc item.

Yes but I was more thinking about hiding most of elements of the tree, especially Jenkins.

To me a newcomer only need to see (at first) official distributions + MOOC + PBE5.

I can���t find the official PBE5 image. It doesn���t seem to be the raw Pharo5 ?
If not present, is it possible to add it ? I think this is important (if doc cannot be updated) to keep the proper book related images.



 
2)  a proper icon name to display in OS���s task bars.
When several image are opened, they should have different icons, at least different name when hovering, and not only Pharo.

The PharoLauncher should be named Pharo Launcher :). 
Now we should get a nice icon. 

Yes :)
I would go for a circle containing three circles (circle being the pharo logo like the quick pic hack below) :) => image all the way downs���



 
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A more general feedback is about cloud drive OS���s (iCloud Drive, Dropbox, ���).
I have 3 mac���s (pro and personal). I put often files in a directory that are synchronized across these devices. 
- sometimes I get a message that an image are in different states
- sync image might be long (+changes) depending on network conditions

I think the question is important as the launcher download in the Document folder (OSX) and this directory is synchronized by default.
What do you think about such common situation ? What are your common practices ?
- lets says on two Macs and works on both
- or I use a dropbox folder 

=> cloud drive are cool and my impression is that we could take a better advantage of them for data that could be shared between (personal) images (Play-Cache ? Packages-cache ? ��� )
==> would it be possible to have several files for one image (chunked over time so only the last chunk is modified and then less file would be synchronized) - (I don���t know at all if possible) ?
==> same for changes��� but this one should be easier I think.

=> I also find longer to share pharo system the old ways - zipping (or not) via USB - I think git integration produces a large number of files that relies slows down system copy paste (if only image this is ok)��� 


No idea about that ?

I finally resolved to change the default image and VM dir���
Documents is syncing on Macs, and when your connection is slow��� that���s quite problematics (especially when you do image experiments like trying to graphs more than 2Million objects ^^). I finally got my space low warning (I may retry on a better computer with a 64 bits image) ^^

Side note: ok image grows, but the default is about 200MB in memory for me (Launcher is 115MB here)��� when you see safari tab being always more Thant 200MB (and this time I have only one opened tab which is rare)��� Safari is not an exception, I find Pharo memory related concern still very reasonable (+ it will improve once the bootstrap is production ready).


Cheers,

C��drick