Hi Chris 2014-05-21 18:11 GMT+02:00 Chris Muller <asqueaker@gmail.com>:
One reason might be that Phratch is kind of redundant isn't it?
For sure, not !
Smalltalk already has a foothold on the Pi in the form of Squeak, and Tim Rowledge is being paid by that organization right now to improve Scratch. So if you're interested in helping kids learn programming with Scratch, why not check with Tim see if you can find a way help with what he's doing..?
Yes, we already discussed about that with Tim. Our goal is not the same. I don't want to say something wrong, but Tim want to do Scratch on a recent Squeak, then including BYOB. He is working hard to integrate it on RPi. Phratch is something different: it is based on Scratch, but the goal is to be as much extendable as possible. For example, I use it for robotics. This is not possible in Scratch. Yes there is Enchanting, but it is based on a plugin if I understood well. Another goal is to access to Smalltalk code. As a good learning language, I think that using phratch should help developers to learn smalltalk, which is not a goal of Scratch. So, as I said, we already discussed with Tim, and I am sure we will reuse our work. If I remember, Tim already has a look at phratch source code. For my part, if Tim do plugins that work on RPi, I will probably use them. And I hope to meet Tim at ESUG if he will come to discuss about all of that. Cheers, Jannik
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com> wrote:
Hi!
My point was the following: why Phratch is not included in the default setting of Rasbian?
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On May 20, 2014, at 9:36 AM, jannik laval <jannik.laval@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
Probably he does not know phratch for Rasberry-Pi: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/view/Phratch/job/Phratch-OneClick-RPi...
Cheers :)
2014-05-20 15:32 GMT+02:00 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com>: Hi!
A friend of mine recently bought a Raspberry pi and installed Rasbian, a Debian-like OS for Raspberry. Squeak and Scratch are installed per default. There is room to fill here...
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