Hi Chris


2014-05-21 18:11 GMT+02:00 Chris Muller <asqueaker@gmail.com>:
One reason might be that Phratch is kind of redundant isn't it?

For sure, not !
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Smalltalk already has a foothold on the Pi in the form of Squeak, and
Tim Rowledge is being paid by that organization right now to improve
Scratch. ��So if you're interested in helping kids learn programming
with Scratch, why not check with Tim see if you can find a way help
with what he's doing..?

Yes, we already discussed about that with Tim.
Our goal is not the same.
I don't want to say something wrong, but Tim want to do Scratch on a recent Squeak, then including BYOB. He is working hard to integrate it on RPi.
Phratch is something different: it is based on Scratch, but the goal is to be as much extendable as possible. For example, I use it for robotics. This is not possible in Scratch. Yes there is Enchanting, but it is based on a plugin if I understood well.
Another goal is to access to Smalltalk code. As a good learning language, I think that using phratch should help developers to learn smalltalk, which is not a goal of Scratch.

So, as I said, we already discussed with Tim, and I am sure we will reuse our work. If I remember, Tim already has a look at phratch source code. For my part, if Tim do plugins that work on RPi, I will probably use them.
And I hope to meet Tim at ESUG if he will come to discuss about all of that.

Cheers,
Jannik

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On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Alexandre Bergel
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> My point was the following: why Phratch is not included in the default setting of Rasbian?
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> On May 20, 2014, at 9:36 AM, jannik laval <jannik.laval@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Hi,
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>> Probably he does not know phratch for Rasberry-Pi: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/view/Phratch/job/Phratch-OneClick-RPi/
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>> Cheers :)
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>> 2014-05-20 15:32 GMT+02:00 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com>:
>> Hi!
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>> A friend of mine recently bought a Raspberry pi and installed Rasbian, a Debian-like OS for Raspberry. Squeak and Scratch are installed per default. There is room to fill here...
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>> Cheers,
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