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Re: [Pharo-project] Submitting changes to upstream repositories

by Lukas Renggli

> from pharo. Sure, it would be easier if MC and Squeaksource supported > branches, butâ¦ The central concept of MC *is* branching and merging. In fact, with every commit you create a branch. I guess you are talking about named branches. This was broken for a while as people used dots in their initials, but Julien and I provided patches that are included in recent versions of Pharo. We use named-branches in Seaside and in various commercial projects extensively. > Another solution, for a small package like regex, would be to just > mark the latest not-pharo version, and take ownership of the project. > After all, the only non-pharo guy there is Avi. My take on this is the following: If you fork you create your own branch. It is not the job of people that fork to keep compatible with the rest of the world or to merge changes back into the main trunk. Sometimes it happens that original project merges changes from a fork, but the initiative has to come from the original maintainers. This is a good read on the topic: <http://producingoss.com/en/forks.html>. Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch

May 9, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Error when trying to create a package

by Jim Menard

Alexandre, On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu> wrote: > I just tried and it works as expected. I fix the bug you mentioned on > April 20, 2009. Which version of OB-Enhancements do you use? I don't know. How can I tell? Jim -- Jim Menard, jimm(a)io.com, jim.menard(a)gmail.com http://www.io.com/~jimm/

May 9, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Submitting changes to upstream repositories

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On May 9, 2009, at 7:42 PM, Damien Pollet wrote: > On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 18:59, StÃ©phane Ducasse > <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> Come on this is only possible if the changes you do don't break on >> other code. >> else people will start to complain that we are polluting the >> repository with pharo specific version. > > Maybe, but I don't think so, provided it's clear the snapshots come > from pharo. Sure, it would be easier if MC and Squeaksource supported > branches, butâ¦ OK I understand. > I'm just asking for some communication on what you fork, not for > backporting everything to Squeak. I think at least the minimum would > be to edit the project descriptions to indicate that they have a pharo > branch and where to look for it. Yes please do it since you are an admin > Another solution, for a small package like regex, would be to just > mark the latest not-pharo version, and take ownership of the project. I would prefer to make sure that people understand that they can use it and get a working version for their environment. So if you can publish a more recent version there and make sure that this is clear that this is working on pharo. This would be good. > > After all, the only non-pharo guy there is Avi. > > > -- > Damien Pollet > type less, do more [ | ] http://people.untyped.org/damien.pollet > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

May 9, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] windowsesque theme

by Alexandre Bergel

Really nice! It really looks like Window 95 Cheers, Alexandre On 9 May 2009, at 00:46, Steve Wirts wrote: > I've attached a rough draft of a windowsesque UITheme called > UIThemeXP, > I was hoping it could be added to the themes in the main distribution. > It may need to be renamed, and certainly put into the proper package. > > After you filein, evaluate.... > > UIThemeXP setup. > > then to see some examples of it, evaluate > > UITheme exampleBasicControls > > > The "UIThemeXP<<setup" function assumes you are on a windows machine > as it requires Tahoma font be installed. > Otherwise you can just set it as the preferred look and feel, and it > will use the standard Accuny font. > > It would be nice if the FreeType fonts could be somehow persisted > inside methods like images so they would be available on other > platforms. > <windowsesque.st>_______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

May 9, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Error when trying to create a package

by Alexandre Bergel

I just tried and it works as expected. I fix the bug you mentioned on April 20, 2009. Which version of OB-Enhancements do you use? Cheers, Alexandre On 9 May 2009, at 21:17, Jim Menard wrote: > When every I try to create a package in the browser, I see an error. > Inside OBPackageOrClassNode>>shouldRefresh: the value of "ann event" > is nil, so the call to itemKind blows up. > > I believe I have the latest version of Pharo, with all updates as of a > day or two ago. This has been happening for a long time, though. > > Am I doing something wrong, or is this a bug? > > Jim > -- > Jim Menard, jimm(a)io.com, jim.menard(a)gmail.com > http://www.io.com/~jimm/ > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

May 9, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Error when trying to create a package

by Jim Menard

Alexandre, >> Am I doing something wrong, or is this a bug? > > This is a bug. I bumped in it already. > It was introduced when David and I worked on improving the speed of OB Thanks for the quick response. I'm not familiar enough with the internals of the browser code to offer a solution. I can see from travelling down the stack that the OBPackageBrowser object's changeEvent is nil, but that's all. Jim -- Jim Menard, jimm(a)io.com, jim.menard(a)gmail.com http://www.io.com/~jimm/

May 9, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Error when trying to create a package

by Alexandre Bergel

> Am I doing something wrong, or is this a bug? This is a bug. I bumped in it already. It was introduced when David and I worked on improving the speed of OB Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

May 9, 2009

[Pharo-project] Error when trying to create a package

by Jim Menard

When every I try to create a package in the browser, I see an error. Inside OBPackageOrClassNode>>shouldRefresh: the value of "ann event" is nil, so the call to itemKind blows up. I believe I have the latest version of Pharo, with all updates as of a day or two ago. This has been happening for a long time, though. Am I doing something wrong, or is this a bug? Jim -- Jim Menard, jimm(a)io.com, jim.menard(a)gmail.com http://www.io.com/~jimm/

May 9, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Submitting changes to upstream repositories

by Damien Pollet

On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 18:59, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Come on this is only possible if the changes you do don't break on > other code. > else people will start to complain that we are polluting the > repository with pharo specific version. Maybe, but I don't think so, provided it's clear the snapshots come from pharo. Sure, it would be easier if MC and Squeaksource supported branches, butâ¦ I'm just asking for some communication on what you fork, not for backporting everything to Squeak. I think at least the minimum would be to edit the project descriptions to indicate that they have a pharo branch and where to look for it. Another solution, for a small package like regex, would be to just mark the latest not-pharo version, and take ownership of the project. After all, the only non-pharo guy there is Avi. -- Damien Pollet type less, do more [ | ] http://people.untyped.org/damien.pollet

May 9, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Submitting changes to upstream repositories

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On May 9, 2009, at 6:36 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > I agree with you Damien. We should not take this dangerous path. If > Pharo enhances a package picked from somewhere else, the enhancement > must be push back from where it come from. Come on this is only possible if the changes you do don't break on other code. else people will start to complain that we are polluting the repository with pharo specific version. So either you take the time and check that this is ok (have the rights to publish, and that the version does not break on Etoy, Squeak3.8, 3.9, 3.10, croquet) and we can publish the code there. Or we don't. Now there is the HUGE question of ressources. I think that pharo is making progress and this comes at a certain prices. as we say: on ne fait pas d'omelette sans cassser d'oeuf because this applies also to SUnit and others. Stef > > > Alexandre > > > On 9 May 2009, at 18:32, Damien Pollet wrote: > >> On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 18:05, StÃ©phane Ducasse >> <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>>> There are recent versions of VB-Regex in the images, but they are >>>> not >>>> at http://www.squeaksource.com/Regex >>> >>> which images? >> >> Recent Pharo-cores >> >>>> I will copy them but that's just on of those things that make >>>> people >>>> say Pharo is not playing nice with other forksâ¦ >>> >>> we consider Regex are part of the core of pharo so what would be the >>> solution? >> >> Depends what you mean by "part of the core". >> >> If it's "included by default", then submit the fixes back to the >> original project then copy the mcz in the pharo repository if it's >> practical. >> >> If it means "part of the fork", then you take responsibility for >> maintaining your versions, but I don't see the point since it's code >> that is quite platform-agnostic, and still it would be nice to notify >> the original project (i know, it's not possible with squeaksource). >> Maybe a feature request for SourceTalk, keeping track of branches >> across repositories. >> >> -- >> Damien Pollet >> type less, do more [ | ] http://people.untyped.org/damien.pollet >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

May 9, 2009