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Jan. 8, 2015

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Jan. 8, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ OT ] Je suis Charlie

by kilon alios

Our condolences from Greece, very sad day for mankind and freedom of speech. Any form of fanatism can only damage and unfortunately we have witnessed its worst form yesterday. On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 5:14 PM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > Extremely sad. I cried. When you see the violence with which the guy > kills the policeman lying on the floor, > you can vomit. > I cannot imagine the violence in the building. Imagine killing 80 year old > men like Wolinsky with a kalashnikov. > These comics were really fun I often laugh a lot because they jokes all > powers. > > Stef > > > Le 8/1/15 09:46, Sven Van Caekenberghe a Ã©crit : > > I am shocked by yesterday's events in Paris. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Hebdo_shooting > > Freedom of speech, including satire, is a fundamental right. > > > I am sure that LibertÃ©, Ã©galitÃ©, fraternitÃ© will prevail. > > > The way we work together in our little community, building and > supporting free & open source software as a way to contribute to society, > with diverse people from all over the world respecting each other, is one > example of what humans can do. I am proud of that. > > > Sven > > >

Jan. 8, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] FogBugsz issue assignment

by Benjamin Pollack

On Wed, Jan 7, 2015, at 05:50 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: > > > On 06 Jan 2015, at 15:13, MartinW <wm(a)fastmail.fm> wrote: > > > > Whenever I reply to an issue or resolve an issue, everybody gets > > automatically removed from "assigned to this issue" and I am set as the only > > one the issue is assigned to. > > > > Is this intended? > > > > I just entered a new bug > > (https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14679/Fix-layout-glitch-in-FileDialogWind…) > > then it is assigned to everybody. > > After i resolved it as "fix review needed" it gets automatically only > > assigned to me. But exactly now it should be assigned to everybody, so that > > someone can review it? Or do i misunderstand the mechanism? > > > > For me the whole âto whom the issue is asking toâ is confusing, too. > I think that the issue is always assigned back to the âownerâ after every > step. > So, the idea here is pretty simple: when you resolve a case, the person who opened the case should be the one to decide whether you *actually* fully handled their issue, because *they're* the one who reported it in the first place. If they agree, they close it. If they don't agree, they reopen it. If you've ever had to deal with a major company's help desk helpfully "resolving" your issue while you can still trivially reproduce it, you'll appreciate why FogBugz works this way by default. But many open source projects don't quite work that way. If Pharo's one of them, just change away from FogBugz' default workflow to one that's more to your choosing. An Administrator just needs to click on Settings -> Workflow, find the relevant workflow, and change what happens to assignment when a case is resolved. You can pick "-- No Change --", or "Everybody", or a specific user, or a virtual user, or whatever you feel is appropriate. You can even vary this by the type of thing getting resolved, so if e.g. you feel that features should resolve to Everybody, but bugs should resolve to the original reporter, you can easily make that distinction. Hope that helps. --Benjamin (Note that, regardless of whether you alter the workflow or not, if you just want to make a comment, you should simply "Edit" the case. This will allow you to leave a note without altering who it's assigned to or its resolution state, which should leave it assigned to "Everybody".)

Jan. 8, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo CI down?

by Marcus Denker

> On 08 Jan 2015, at 07:29, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > >> On 08 Jan 2015, at 04:58, Max Leske <maxleske(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> ci.inria.fr/pharo seems to be down... >> > > Yes, I have send a mail to the support before going to bedâ¦ no results yet. > > Has been fixed, it is online again Marcus

Jan. 8, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Athens/Morphic

by stepharo

Hi nicolai should we include your change in Pharo4.0? Stef Le 8/1/15 12:27, Nicolai Hess a Ã©crit : > A new Version of the AthensWrapWorldMorph (useful for testing Athens based > drawing for morphs). And some changes for using Athens with the existing > Morphs: > > Many things are working, some important not. > I had some terrible, terrible hours fighting with clipping, > MorphTransformation and Textrendering. > > MorphTreeTransform still doesn't work. > > Textrendering: > I solved by using some of > AthensText-classes. Those aren't fully working. > Tabs or similiar control characters don't work. > Text emphasis doesn't work. > Different fonts and different colors in one TextMorph is working now! > And I still don't know if this is the right way and I did not get any > review/feedback on this (issue 13449). > (In the meantime we have similiar TxTextModel based classes in the image, > maybe I am wasting my time). > > I had to make one change for creating a pattern paint > from a form: AthensCairoSurface>>#fromForm: > I am not sure about this change, but image fillstyle with 1 pixel > height didn't work, > but now they do (for example, change to vistary or watery theme, they > make some heavy use on fillstyles, and it works now with athens). > > > athens_wrap_world.cs is a new AthensWrapWorldMorph for testing > Athens rendering, every Morph put on this WrapWorld will be drawn > by athens. > > athens_morphic_support.cs and athens_morphic_textsupports.cs > add/fix athens related methods. > > athens_morphic_drawonathens.cs defines some more drawOnAthensCanvas: > methods. > > >

Jan. 8, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ OT ] Je suis Charlie

by stepharo

Extremely sad. I cried. When you see the violence with which the guy kills the policeman lying on the floor, you can vomit. I cannot imagine the violence in the building. Imagine killing 80 year old men like Wolinsky with a kalashnikov. These comics were really fun I often laugh a lot because they jokes all powers. Stef Le 8/1/15 09:46, Sven Van Caekenberghe a Ã©crit : > I am shocked by yesterday's events in Paris. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Hebdo_shooting > > Freedom of speech, including satire, is a fundamental right. > > > I am sure that LibertÃ©, Ã©galitÃ©, fraternitÃ© will prevail. > > > The way we work together in our little community, building and > supporting free & open source software as a way to contribute to > society, with diverse people from all over the world respecting each > other, is one example of what humans can do. I am proud of that. > > > Sven >

Jan. 8, 2015

R: The Smalltalk Revolution

by Lorenzo Schiavina

Hi people, I share 100% Phill's observations. Pharo is the best technical environment I have ever seen, but it is not "friendly" for those who are forced to use it for "stupid" application, where it is not so easy to find tools for everyday works. IMHO this is the reason for which Smalltalk loosed with Java, which was 100 times worst. Lorenzo -----Messaggio originale----- Da: Pharo-dev [mailto:pharo-dev-bounces@lists.pharo.org] Per conto di horrido Inviato: giovedÃ¬ 8 gennaio 2015 15:31 A: pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org Oggetto: Re: [Pharo-dev] The Smalltalk Revolution Excellent point, Philippe! I feel similarly. In fact, this is precisely what inspired me to write my very *first* (and one of my most popular) Medium.com articles: https://medium.com/@richardeng/the-zen-of-web2py-ede59769d084 <https://medium.com/@richardeng/the-zen-of-web2py-ede59769d084> Web2py is still my favourite web framework (sorry, Seaside). philippeback wrote > For a project, I've had to look into Python and Django. > > After one evening installing and walking through the tutorial, I got > the gist of it. > > There was a distinct feel: this thing provides out of the box > facilities to make basic DB backed applications and neat APIs. > > We miss that with Seaside. That's killing us for early adopter traction. > > We need scaffholding facilities and database connectivity if we want > to compete there. > If we want to escape the best kept secret trap that is. > > We may be too smart for our own good. > > This article "Why Smart People Make Bad Entrepreneurs" / > http://www.entrepreneur.com/article/240861#ixzz3ODI6RYR0 is really > spot on. > > I am not advocating dumbing down what we do but we need to provide > easier entry into the system. > > Talk is cheap, I know. Maybe could we put this on the table during > Pharo Days at the consortium roundtable. > > Phil > > > On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Lawrence Kellogg < > mac.hive@ > > wrote: > >> At this point it should probably be "This is not your grandfather's >> Smalltalk" :-) >> >> Larry >> >> >> >> > On Jan 8, 2015, at 6:51 AM, horrido < > horrido.hobbies@ > > wrote: >> > >> > https://medium.com/@richardeng/the-smalltalk-revolution-ee245c281f5 >> > 1 >> > >> <https://medium.com/@richardeng/the-smalltalk-revolution-ee245c281 >> f51> >> > >> > I welcome your comments. It's not too late to edit the piece. >> > >> > Thanks. >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > View this message in context: >> http://forum.world.st/The-Smalltalk-Revolution-tp4798320.html >> > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at >> Nabble.com. >> > >> >> -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/The-Smalltalk-Revolution-tp4798320p4798344.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Jan. 8, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] The Smalltalk Revolution

by horrido

In *the 3 hours* since this article was published at Medium, it has garnered *178 views* and *96 reads*, and counting! This makes it easily the most "hot" article I've ever written. It is currently at the top of Medium's front page <https://medium.com/> which is reserved for "hot" or "trending" articles. Thanks to everyone! horrido wrote > https://medium.com/@richardeng/the-smalltalk-revolution-ee245c281f51 <https://medium.com/@richardeng/the-smalltalk-revolution-ee245c281f51> > > I welcome your comments. It's not too late to edit the piece. > > Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/The-Smalltalk-Revolution-tp4798320p4798348.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Jan. 8, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] The Smalltalk Revolution

by horrido

Excellent point, Philippe! I feel similarly. In fact, this is precisely what inspired me to write my very *first* (and one of my most popular) Medium.com articles: https://medium.com/@richardeng/the-zen-of-web2py-ede59769d084 <https://medium.com/@richardeng/the-zen-of-web2py-ede59769d084> Web2py is still my favourite web framework (sorry, Seaside). philippeback wrote > For a project, I've had to look into Python and Django. > > After one evening installing and walking through the tutorial, I got the > gist of it. > > There was a distinct feel: this thing provides out of the box facilities > to > make basic DB backed applications and neat APIs. > > We miss that with Seaside. That's killing us for early adopter traction. > > We need scaffholding facilities and database connectivity if we want to > compete there. > If we want to escape the best kept secret trap that is. > > We may be too smart for our own good. > > This article "Why Smart People Make Bad Entrepreneurs" / > http://www.entrepreneur.com/article/240861#ixzz3ODI6RYR0 is really spot > on. > > I am not advocating dumbing down what we do but we need to provide easier > entry into the system. > > Talk is cheap, I know. Maybe could we put this on the table during Pharo > Days at the consortium roundtable. > > Phil > > > On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Lawrence Kellogg < > mac.hive@ > > wrote: > >> At this point it should probably be "This is not your grandfather's >> Smalltalk" :-) >> >> Larry >> >> >> >> > On Jan 8, 2015, at 6:51 AM, horrido < > horrido.hobbies@ > > wrote: >> > >> > https://medium.com/@richardeng/the-smalltalk-revolution-ee245c281f51 >> > >> <https://medium.com/@richardeng/the-smalltalk-revolution-ee245c281f51> >> > >> > I welcome your comments. It's not too late to edit the piece. >> > >> > Thanks. >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > View this message in context: >> http://forum.world.st/The-Smalltalk-Revolution-tp4798320.html >> > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at >> Nabble.com. >> > >> >> -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/The-Smalltalk-Revolution-tp4798320p4798344.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Jan. 8, 2015