Hi people, I share 100% Phill's observations. Pharo is the best technical environment I have ever seen, but it is not "friendly" for those who are forced to use it for "stupid" application, where it is not so easy to find tools for everyday works. IMHO this is the reason for which Smalltalk loosed with Java, which was 100 times worst. Lorenzo -----Messaggio originale----- Da: Pharo-dev [mailto:pharo-dev-bounces@lists.pharo.org] Per conto di horrido Inviato: giovedì 8 gennaio 2015 15:31 A: pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org Oggetto: Re: [Pharo-dev] The Smalltalk Revolution Excellent point, Philippe! I feel similarly. In fact, this is precisely what inspired me to write my very *first* (and one of my most popular) Medium.com articles: https://medium.com/@richardeng/the-zen-of-web2py-ede59769d084 <https://medium.com/@richardeng/the-zen-of-web2py-ede59769d084> Web2py is still my favourite web framework (sorry, Seaside). philippeback wrote
For a project, I've had to look into Python and Django.
After one evening installing and walking through the tutorial, I got the gist of it.
There was a distinct feel: this thing provides out of the box facilities to make basic DB backed applications and neat APIs.
We miss that with Seaside. That's killing us for early adopter traction.
We need scaffholding facilities and database connectivity if we want to compete there. If we want to escape the best kept secret trap that is.
We may be too smart for our own good.
This article "Why Smart People Make Bad Entrepreneurs" / http://www.entrepreneur.com/article/240861#ixzz3ODI6RYR0 is really spot on.
I am not advocating dumbing down what we do but we need to provide easier entry into the system.
Talk is cheap, I know. Maybe could we put this on the table during Pharo Days at the consortium roundtable.
Phil
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Lawrence Kellogg <
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At this point it should probably be "This is not your grandfather's Smalltalk" :-)
Larry
On Jan 8, 2015, at 6:51 AM, horrido <
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I welcome your comments. It's not too late to edit the piece.
Thanks.
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