November 2012 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] when do we go beta?

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 21 Nov 2012, at 17:19, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > when do we go beta? I have been using 2.0 for months now, it has been very stable (apart from some hiccups). It is so much better that it would be immoral to keep this from the world ;-) We just have to declare a stabilization period in which we refrain from big/dangerous changes and work more on stability and testing. My 2c, Sven

Nov. 21, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] when do we go beta?

by Gary Chambers

Who knows... despite the (1.4 to 2.0 transition) we've had to stay on 1.4 for stability/sanity since we have a live product. Will take a while to ascertain the impact. Guess we go once final for us. Sorry not had the time to follow the 2.0 progression in use. Regards, Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "StÃ©phane Ducasse" <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> To: "Pharo Development" <Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 4:19 PM Subject: [Pharo-project] when do we go beta? > Stef >

Nov. 21, 2012

[Pharo-project] when do we go beta?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Stef

Nov. 21, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] I don't agree with DummyXXX

by Max Leske

How about "void" or "noon"? On 21.11.2012, at 17:07, Sebastian Sastre <sebastian(a)flowingconcept.com> wrote: > DeafX > > Deaf suggesting "an X that's non reactive as you would normally expect" > > > > > > On Nov 21, 2012, at 1:47 PM, Fernando Olivero wrote: > >> I totally agree. Dummy does not tell me about the class. >> >> Are there just 3 uses of Dummy in the core? >> >> We should either use Null or use a specific prefix always, so its form a consisten pattern. >> >> DummyUIManager -> NullUIManager >> >> Fernando >> >> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> From what I understand, Dummy means something different. I have using that for class names. More accurate names can be found. >> I would rename: >> >> DummyUIManager -> HeadlessUIManager >> DummySystemProgressItem -> NullSystemProgressItem >> DummySoundSystem -> NullSoundSystem >> >> what do you think? do you have better names? >> >> -- >> Mariano >> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com >> >> >

Nov. 21, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] I don't agree with DummyXXX

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Yes I would prefer. Stef On Nov 21, 2012, at 4:34 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > From what I understand, Dummy means something different. I have using that for class names. More accurate names can be found. > I would rename: > > DummyUIManager -> HeadlessUIManager > DummySystemProgressItem -> NullSystemProgressItem > DummySoundSystem -> NullSoundSystem > > what do you think? do you have better names? > > -- > Mariano > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com >

Nov. 21, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Loading NBOpenGL in pharo 2

by Javier PimÃ¡s

ok, I'll update the config. About the fonts, do you know if these clases were removed from pharo? On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 21 November 2012 12:28, Javier PimÃ¡s <elpochodelagente(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > Igor, while loading ConfigurationOfNBOpenGL this things are missing: > > > > NBUnsignedLong > > > hmm.. this is because latest version of NativeBoost renamed this class > to NBUInt32 > that means we need to update config of opengl, > and of course update this dependency. > > > TTFontReader > > TTFontDescription > > TTGlyph > > > this needs for demo to work.. but sure , it is not required for opengl > to function. > > > > are they still needed? > > > > -- > > Lic. Javier PimÃ¡s > > Ciudad de Buenos Aires > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko. > > -- Lic. Javier PimÃ¡s Ciudad de Buenos Aires

Nov. 21, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] I don't agree with DummyXXX

by Sebastian Sastre

DeafX Deaf suggesting "an X that's non reactive as you would normally expect" On Nov 21, 2012, at 1:47 PM, Fernando Olivero wrote: > I totally agree. Dummy does not tell me about the class. > > Are there just 3 uses of Dummy in the core? > > We should either use Null or use a specific prefix always, so its form a consisten pattern. > > DummyUIManager -> NullUIManager > > Fernando > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > From what I understand, Dummy means something different. I have using that for class names. More accurate names can be found. > I would rename: > > DummyUIManager -> HeadlessUIManager > DummySystemProgressItem -> NullSystemProgressItem > DummySoundSystem -> NullSoundSystem > > what do you think? do you have better names? > > -- > Mariano > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com > >

Nov. 21, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] I don't agree with DummyXXX

by Camillo Bruni

On 2012-11-21, at 12:34, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > From what I understand, Dummy means something different. I have using that > for class names. More accurate names can be found. > I would rename: > > DummyUIManager -> HeadlessUIManager it's actually more like NullUImanager :) since we have the CommandLineUIManager which is headless but interactive. > DummySystemProgressItem -> NullSystemProgressItem > DummySoundSystem -> NullSoundSystem > > what do you think? do you have better names? I prefer them, yes.

Nov. 21, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] I don't agree with DummyXXX

by Marten Feldtmann

Nicht um 1600 Uhr ? Wolltest Du nicht noch Unterlagen rumschicken ? marten On 21.11.2012 16:47, Fernando Olivero wrote: > I totally agree. Dummy does not tell me about the class. > > Are there just 3 uses of Dummy in the core? > > We should either use Null or use a specific prefix always, so its form > a consisten pattern. > > DummyUIManager -> NullUIManager > > Fernando > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck > <marianopeck(a)gmail.com <mailto:marianopeck@gmail.com>> wrote: > > From what I understand, Dummy means something different. I have > using that for class names. More accurate names can be found. > I would rename: > > DummyUIManager -> HeadlessUIManager > DummySystemProgressItem -> NullSystemProgressItem > DummySoundSystem -> NullSoundSystem > > what do you think? do you have better names? > > -- > Mariano > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com > >

Nov. 21, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] I don't agree with DummyXXX

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Fernando Olivero <fernando.olivero(a)usi.ch>wrote: > I totally agree. Dummy does not tell me about the class. > > Are there just 3 uses of Dummy in the core? > > there are some other about Spec but I don't know what they do. > We should either use Null or use a specific prefix always, so its form a > consisten pattern. > > +1 > DummyUIManager -> NullUIManager > But it is not a complete NULL UIManager. It does stuff, but it makes sures not to end up calling the UI (like progress bar, notifications, confirmations, etc). So, in this particular case, HeadlessUIManager is much more accurate for me than Null. In the others, Null is the most accurate for me. > > > Fernando > > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck < > marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> From what I understand, Dummy means something different. I have using >> that for class names. More accurate names can be found. >> I would rename: >> >> DummyUIManager -> HeadlessUIManager >> DummySystemProgressItem -> NullSystemProgressItem >> DummySoundSystem -> NullSoundSystem >> >> what do you think? do you have better names? >> >> -- >> Mariano >> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com >> >> > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

Nov. 21, 2012