June 2008 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] random cleanups

by Norbert Hartl

On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 09:28 +0200, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > Hi Norbert, > > I tried to load your slice, but I got "can't find dependency > MorphicExtras-NorbertHartl.38" > > How such a situation may occur? > I don't know. I didn't get an error while uploading. I saved the package again with the same name. Norbert > Cheers, > Alexandre > > On 20 Jun 2008, at 22:54, Norbert Hartl wrote: > > > I browsed a little bit through the image and found > > odd things. I deleted them in > > > > SLICE-RandomCleanup > > > > I think all of them a pretty harmless changes. > > > > Norbert > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > >

June 21, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] random cleanups

by Alexandre Bergel

Hi Norbert, I tried to load your slice, but I got "can't find dependency MorphicExtras-NorbertHartl.38" How such a situation may occur? Cheers, Alexandre On 20 Jun 2008, at 22:54, Norbert Hartl wrote: > I browsed a little bit through the image and found > odd things. I deleted them in > > SLICE-RandomCleanup > > I think all of them a pretty harmless changes. > > Norbert > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

June 21, 2008

[Pharo-project] test run

by Norbert Hartl

I applied all changes from the inbox and the test run showed expected results, 2 expected, 4 failures. Norbert

June 20, 2008

[Pharo-project] random cleanups

by Norbert Hartl

I browsed a little bit through the image and found odd things. I deleted them in SLICE-RandomCleanup I think all of them a pretty harmless changes. Norbert

June 20, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Unimplemented calls

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

thanks I will have to fix some part of my house tomorrow but I will issue MVC 3 and some other items. stef On Jun 20, 2008, at 10:13 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > I uploaded a new slice > > SLICE-UnimplementedCallsFix1 > > that fixes a couple of unimplemented calls. The situation > isn't that worse. There were 211 and now there are 203. > A bigger part of the rest seems to be etoys related and > should go away automatically. > > Norbert > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

June 20, 2008

[Pharo-project] Unimplemented calls

by Norbert Hartl

I uploaded a new slice SLICE-UnimplementedCallsFix1 that fixes a couple of unimplemented calls. The situation isn't that worse. There were 211 and now there are 203. A bigger part of the rest seems to be etoys related and should go away automatically. Norbert

June 20, 2008

[Pharo-project] Re: Missing PluggableTextController andPluggableTextView

by Andrew Tween

Hi Alain & Damien, Thanks to both of you. I have merged in the changes... http://source.wiresong.ca/ob/OB-Morphic-tween.48.mcz http://www.squeaksource.com/shout/Shout.3.15-tween.72.mcz Damien, please could you update the Universe Shout entry like you did before? Thanks. Andy "Damien Cassou" <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:6ac749c10806180110p68d6175bh724a814586fe2a46@mail.gmail.com... On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 9:32 AM, Alain Plantec <alain.plantec(a)free.fr> wrote: > On Tuesday 17 June 2008 14:43:29 Alain Plantec wrote: >> On Tuesday 17 June 2008 14:25:28 Damien Cassou wrote: >>> >> I've found another problem related to view instance variable + OB. >> I will report it tonight. > Hi Damien and Andrew, > Controller 'view' instance variable has been removed. > In pharo-dev, Undeclared shows a 'view' key which is referenced from > OBTextMorphEditor, > OBTextMorphEditorWithShout and TextMorphForShoutEditor. > I've attached 2 separated fixes (for OB and for shout). Are these fixes compatible with the new Shout (published yesterday)? Are these fixes compatible with Squeak? If both answers are yes, please commit your fix to OB directly to source.wiresong.ca/ob (no need for a password). And send the Shout fix to Andrew. Bye -- Damien Cassou Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)

June 20, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] About getting supersending methods

by Lukas Renggli

Using OB-Refectory you can do: Open Environment | Select Methods And enter: [ :each | each sendsToSuper ] If you do that on an already scoped browser (e.g. Open Environment | Subclasses), you get what you want even with less coding. If you think this is generally useful to find super-sends, I could even integrate such an environment. Cheers, Lukas On 6/20/08, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu> wrote: > Pfff... > Stupid are we. We haven't seen CompiledMethod>>sendsToSuper > > Thanks Adrian, > Alexandre > > > > On 20 Jun 2008, at 15:55, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > > > > Hi Stef, > > > > It seems like the code you posted is more complex than it needs to be. > Wouldn't the following three lines of code do the same? > > > > Getting all super sending methods of a class: > > Morph methods select: #sendsToSuper > > > > Getting all super sending methods of a class and its subclasses: > > Morph withAllSubclasses inject: Set new into: [ :result :class | > > result addAll: (class methods select: #sendsToSuper); yourself ] > > > > HTH, > > Adrian > > > > On Jun 20, 2008, at 11:39 , StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > > > > > > > it would be nice to have a better version with tests for getting method > perfomring super send > > > > > > Stef > > > > > > We did that in a rush with alex sthis morning > > > > > > > <gettingSupercalls.2.cs>_______________________________________________ > > > Pharo-project mailing list > > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch

June 20, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] slive mvc removeal 3

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

I did not checked but indeed you removed already a lot of MCV core classes :) So the next step is to do the same for etoy :) On Jun 20, 2008, at 9:51 AM, Alain Plantec wrote: > On Friday 20 June 2008 09:34:49 StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> so after we should remove the MVC classes? > Which classes do you have in mind ? > Have I missed something about mvc? let me know and I will investigate. > alain >> >> Stef >> >> On Jun 19, 2008, at 4:56 PM, Alain Plantec wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> I've posted it to PharoInbox: >>> - it removes more mvc stuff >>> - it cleans SreenController and SMPackage by the emoving of all mvc >>> related methods (especially old mvc screen menus) >>> I don't see anything else to do for mvc. If someone have an idea, >>> let me known... >>> alain >>> <mvc-removing- >>> step3.2.cs.zip>_______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

June 20, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] About getting supersending methods

by Alexandre Bergel

Pfff... Stupid are we. We haven't seen CompiledMethod>>sendsToSuper Thanks Adrian, Alexandre On 20 Jun 2008, at 15:55, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > Hi Stef, > > It seems like the code you posted is more complex than it needs to > be. Wouldn't the following three lines of code do the same? > > Getting all super sending methods of a class: > Morph methods select: #sendsToSuper > > Getting all super sending methods of a class and its subclasses: > Morph withAllSubclasses inject: Set new into: [ :result :class | > result addAll: (class methods select: #sendsToSuper); yourself ] > > HTH, > Adrian > > On Jun 20, 2008, at 11:39 , StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> it would be nice to have a better version with tests for getting >> method perfomring super send >> >> Stef >> >> We did that in a rush with alex sthis morning >> >> <gettingSupercalls. >> 2.cs>_______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

June 20, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] About getting supersending methods

by Adrian Lienhard

Hi Stef, It seems like the code you posted is more complex than it needs to be. Wouldn't the following three lines of code do the same? Getting all super sending methods of a class: Morph methods select: #sendsToSuper Getting all super sending methods of a class and its subclasses: Morph withAllSubclasses inject: Set new into: [ :result :class | result addAll: (class methods select: #sendsToSuper); yourself ] HTH, Adrian On Jun 20, 2008, at 11:39 , StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > it would be nice to have a better version with tests for getting > method perfomring super send > > Stef > > We did that in a rush with alex sthis morning > > <gettingSupercalls. > 2.cs>_______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 20, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] About getting supersending methods

by Adrian Lienhard

Hi Stef, It seems like the code you posted is more complex than it needs to be. Wouldn't the following three lines of code do the same? Getting all super sending methods of a class: Morph methods select: #sendsToSuper Getting all super sending methods of a class and its subclasses: Morph withAllSubclasses inject: Set new into: [ :result :class | result addAll: (class methods select: #sendsToSuper); yourself ] HTH, Adrian On Jun 20, 2008, at 11:39 , StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > it would be nice to have a better version with tests for getting > method perfomring super send > > Stef > > We did that in a rush with alex sthis morning > > <gettingSupercalls. > 2.cs>_______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 20, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd:

by Serge Stinckwich

Yes i like it ! 2008/6/20 Noury Bouraqadi <bouraqadi(a)ensm-douai.fr>: > Cooool! > On 19 juin 08, at 21:33, Samuel MORELLO wrote: > >> >> Here is a new version were i tried to put all the remarks. >> >> The pahr text part is more bigger. >> The O has now a celan external circle form. >> The colors have changed a little bit. >> And there is no more the terrible eye ;-) >> I think it is better to a rectangle as light instead of the previous >> circle. >> >> Should you have any comments, feel free to send it. >> >> Thanks,<pharo-0.7.9.pdf> >> >> Samuel >> >> >> Le 19 juin 08 Ã 12:25, StÃ©phane Ducasse a Ã©crit : >> >>> I would stop for now and keep this one for example >>> >>> <Picture 1.pdf> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > Noury Bouraqadi > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Dr. Noury Bouraqadi - Enseignant/Chercheur > Responsable de l'enseignement de l'informatique > ARMINES - Ecole des Mines de Douai - Dept. I.A. > http://vst.ensm-douai.fr/noury > > European Smalltalk Users Group Board > http://www.esug.org > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Serge Stinckwich Smalltalkers do: [:it | All with: Class, (And love: it)] http://blog.doesnotunderstand.org/

June 20, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Can someone add me on google code

by Noury Bouraqadi

Thanx. On 20 juin 08, at 08:27, Victor Rodriguez wrote: > On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 11:37 PM, Noury Bouraqadi > <bouraqadi(a)ensm-douai.fr> wrote: >> My google email is noury.bouraqadi(a)gmail.com > > I have added you as a member. > > Best Regards, > > Victor Rodriguez. > >> Thanks, >> Noury >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Dr. Noury Bouraqadi - Enseignant/Chercheur >> Responsable de l'enseignement de l'informatique >> ARMINES - Ecole des Mines de Douai - Dept. I.A. >> http://vst.ensm-douai.fr/noury >> >> European Smalltalk Users Group Board >> http://www.esug.org >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > Noury Bouraqadi ------------------------------------------------------------------ Dr. Noury Bouraqadi - Enseignant/Chercheur Responsable de l'enseignement de l'informatique ARMINES - Ecole des Mines de Douai - Dept. I.A. http://vst.ensm-douai.fr/noury European Smalltalk Users Group Board http://www.esug.org ------------------------------------------------------------------

June 20, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd:

by Noury Bouraqadi

Cooool! On 19 juin 08, at 21:33, Samuel MORELLO wrote: > > Here is a new version were i tried to put all the remarks. > > The pahr text part is more bigger. > The O has now a celan external circle form. > The colors have changed a little bit. > And there is no more the terrible eye ;-) > I think it is better to a rectangle as light instead of the previous > circle. > > Should you have any comments, feel free to send it. > > Thanks,<pharo-0.7.9.pdf> > > Samuel > > > Le 19 juin 08 Ã 12:25, StÃ©phane Ducasse a Ã©crit : > >> I would stop for now and keep this one for example >> >> <Picture 1.pdf> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project Noury Bouraqadi ------------------------------------------------------------------ Dr. Noury Bouraqadi - Enseignant/Chercheur Responsable de l'enseignement de l'informatique ARMINES - Ecole des Mines de Douai - Dept. I.A. http://vst.ensm-douai.fr/noury European Smalltalk Users Group Board http://www.esug.org ------------------------------------------------------------------

June 20, 2008

[Pharo-project] About getting supersending methods

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

it would be nice to have a better version with tests for getting method perfomring super send Stef We did that in a rush with alex sthis morning

June 20, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Monticello test fixes

by Norbert Hartl

On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 10:40 +0200, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > hehe, I was also working on those MC tests right now. For > MCWorkingCopyTest>>setUp I don't think you need.. > > repositoryGroup removeRepository: MCCacheRepository default. > Oops, didn't notice I left it in. That was the first approach before recognizing that it is useless :) > ..as the cache repository is not stored in the group. Else I think > your changes are good. Better than what they did in 3.10, which is to > just remove the test ;) > I had a look afterwards, too! And that is the next test I find to be removed from 3.10. There is always more than one way to have green tests ;) Norbert > --- > > What do we do with #testUnimplementedNonPrimitiveCalls? It was removed > in 3.10 with comment: "This is not really a unit test but a lint test. > The results are interesting in that they point to possible errors, but > this should be handled in a different context." [1] > I suggest that we also remove it. But this method is a good source for > cleanup. We should go though the list to fix stuff. > > Adrian > > [1] http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/5889 > > > > > > On Jun 20, 2008, at 10:24 , Norbert Hartl wrote: > > > I uploaded > > > > Monticello-NorbertHartl.317 > > > > to PharoInbox. That fixes two Monticello tests. After > > this fix I have 4 failures left. > > > > Norbert > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 20, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Monticello test fixes

by Adrian Lienhard

hehe, I was also working on those MC tests right now. For MCWorkingCopyTest>>setUp I don't think you need.. repositoryGroup removeRepository: MCCacheRepository default. ..as the cache repository is not stored in the group. Else I think your changes are good. Better than what they did in 3.10, which is to just remove the test ;) --- What do we do with #testUnimplementedNonPrimitiveCalls? It was removed in 3.10 with comment: "This is not really a unit test but a lint test. The results are interesting in that they point to possible errors, but this should be handled in a different context." [1] I suggest that we also remove it. But this method is a good source for cleanup. We should go though the list to fix stuff. Adrian [1] http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/5889 On Jun 20, 2008, at 10:24 , Norbert Hartl wrote: > I uploaded > > Monticello-NorbertHartl.317 > > to PharoInbox. That fixes two Monticello tests. After > this fix I have 4 failures left. > > Norbert > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 20, 2008

[Pharo-project] Monticello test fixes

by Norbert Hartl

I uploaded Monticello-NorbertHartl.317 to PharoInbox. That fixes two Monticello tests. After this fix I have 4 failures left. Norbert

June 20, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] slive mvc removeal 3

by Alain Plantec

On Friday 20 June 2008 09:34:49 StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > so after we should remove the MVC classes? Which classes do you have in mind ? Have I missed something about mvc? let me know and I will investigate. alain > > Stef > > On Jun 19, 2008, at 4:56 PM, Alain Plantec wrote: > > > Hi all, > > I've posted it to PharoInbox: > > - it removes more mvc stuff > > - it cleans SreenController and SMPackage by the emoving of all mvc > > related methods (especially old mvc screen menus) > > I don't see anything else to do for mvc. If someone have an idea, > > let me known... > > alain > > <mvc-removing- > > step3.2.cs.zip>_______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >

June 20, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] slive mvc removeal 3

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

so after we should remove the MVC classes? Stef On Jun 19, 2008, at 4:56 PM, Alain Plantec wrote: > Hi all, > I've posted it to PharoInbox: > - it removes more mvc stuff > - it cleans SreenController and SMPackage by the emoving of all mvc > related methods (especially old mvc screen menus) > I don't see anything else to do for mvc. If someone have an idea, > let me known... > alain > <mvc-removing- > step3.2.cs.zip>_______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 20, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd:

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

I like the top of the lighthouse much better. Now I liked also the thrash style for the logo (O alone). Stef > Here is a new version were i tried to put all the remarks. > > The pahr text part is more bigger. > The O has now a celan external circle form. > The colors have changed a little bit. > And there is no more the terrible eye ;-) > I think it is better to a rectangle as light instead of the previous > circle. > > Should you have any comments, feel free to send it. > > Thanks,<pharo-0.7.9.pdf> > > Samuel > > > Le 19 juin 08 Ã 12:25, StÃ©phane Ducasse a Ã©crit : > >> I would stop for now and keep this one for example >> >> <Picture 1.pdf> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 20, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd:

by Norbert Hartl

On Thu, 2008-06-19 at 21:33 +0200, Samuel MORELLO wrote: > Here is a new version were i tried to put all the remarks. > > The pahr text part is more bigger. > The O has now a celan external circle form. > The colors have changed a little bit. > And there is no more the terrible eye ;-) > I think it is better to a rectangle as light instead of the previous > circle. > > Should you have any comments, feel free to send it. > That's way better than the others. Bravo! Norbert

June 20, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd:

by Michael Rueger

Samuel MORELLO wrote: > > Here is a new version were i tried to put all the remarks. > > The pahr text part is more bigger. > The O has now a celan external circle form. > The colors have changed a little bit. > And there is no more the terrible eye ;-) > I think it is better to a rectangle as light instead of the previous > circle. Like that a lot better!! Michael

June 20, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Can someone add me on google code

by Victor Rodriguez

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 11:37 PM, Noury Bouraqadi <bouraqadi(a)ensm-douai.fr> wrote: > My google email is noury.bouraqadi(a)gmail.com I have added you as a member. Best Regards, Victor Rodriguez. > Thanks, > Noury > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Dr. Noury Bouraqadi - Enseignant/Chercheur > Responsable de l'enseignement de l'informatique > ARMINES - Ecole des Mines de Douai - Dept. I.A. > http://vst.ensm-douai.fr/noury > > European Smalltalk Users Group Board > http://www.esug.org > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

June 20, 2008

[Pharo-project] Can someone add me on google code

by Noury Bouraqadi

My google email is noury.bouraqadi(a)gmail.com Thanks, Noury ------------------------------------------------------------------ Dr. Noury Bouraqadi - Enseignant/Chercheur Responsable de l'enseignement de l'informatique ARMINES - Ecole des Mines de Douai - Dept. I.A. http://vst.ensm-douai.fr/noury European Smalltalk Users Group Board http://www.esug.org ------------------------------------------------------------------

June 20, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd:

by Samuel MORELLO

Here is a new version were i tried to put all the remarks. The pahr text part is more bigger. The O has now a celan external circle form. The colors have changed a little bit. And there is no more the terrible eye ;-) I think it is better to a rectangle as light instead of the previous circle. Should you have any comments, feel free to send it. Thanks, Samuel Le 19 juin 08 Ã 12:25, StÃ©phane Ducasse a Ã©crit : > I would stop for now and keep this one for example > > <Picture 1.pdf> > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 19, 2008

[Pharo-project] slive mvc removeal 3

by Alain Plantec

Hi all, I've posted it to PharoInbox: - it removes more mvc stuff - it cleans SreenController and SMPackage by the emoving of all mvc related methods (especially old mvc screen menus) I don't see anything else to do for mvc. If someone have an idea, let me known... alain

June 19, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] [Fwd: [squeak-dev] Re: Bug in object finalization?]

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

done I created the update and I did a release Adrian this was great that you took the lead on that. please consider doing that more often :) Stef On Jun 19, 2008, at 2:38 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > Stef, looking at the update stream it seems like you only need to > copy ScriptLoader-al.448.mcz into the main repository. > Adrian > > On Jun 19, 2008, at 14:31 , StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> sorry my mistake I did a typo. >> >> stef >> >> On Jun 19, 2008, at 2:22 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 2008-06-19 at 13:51 +0200, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >>>> Hi Adrian >>>> >>>> I pushed the updates. >>>> Can you check if this is ok? >>>> >>> For me it is not working. It doesn't load any package from >>> script132. I can't see what is going wrong but I checked >>> for a few packages that are in script132 and they didn't >>> get updated. >>> >>> Norbert >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

June 19, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] [Fwd: [squeak-dev] Re: Bug in object finalization?]

by Adrian Lienhard

Stef, looking at the update stream it seems like you only need to copy ScriptLoader-al.448.mcz into the main repository. Adrian On Jun 19, 2008, at 14:31 , StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > sorry my mistake I did a typo. > > stef > > On Jun 19, 2008, at 2:22 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > >> On Thu, 2008-06-19 at 13:51 +0200, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >>> Hi Adrian >>> >>> I pushed the updates. >>> Can you check if this is ok? >>> >> For me it is not working. It doesn't load any package from >> script132. I can't see what is going wrong but I checked >> for a few packages that are in script132 and they didn't >> get updated. >> >> Norbert >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 19, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] [Fwd: [squeak-dev] Re: Bug in object finalization?]

by Adrian Lienhard

Ah, my bad. I committed the improved script to the inbox. If you can still change it, take al.448, else it should not be a problem. ScriptLoader.al.448 just has a slightly better migration script. Adrian On Jun 19, 2008, at 13:53 , StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > adrian > > > should I used al.448 which is in the inbox? > > Stef > > > On Jun 18, 2008, at 11:04 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > >> - changed WeakRegistry to use WeakIdentityKeyDictionary (http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=6347 >> ) >> - FinalizerTest reverted to real test case >> - added missing class variables to DigitalSigntureAlgorithm >> - Fix issue #13: TraitsTests pollutes ProtoObject subclasses >> (Mantis 7090) >> - make BitmapStreamTest clean up the file bitmapStreamTest.ref.extSeg > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 19, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] [Fwd: [squeak-dev] Re: Bug in object finalization?]

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

sorry my mistake I did a typo. stef On Jun 19, 2008, at 2:22 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > On Thu, 2008-06-19 at 13:51 +0200, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> Hi Adrian >> >> I pushed the updates. >> Can you check if this is ok? >> > For me it is not working. It doesn't load any package from > script132. I can't see what is going wrong but I checked > for a few packages that are in script132 and they didn't > get updated. > > Norbert > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

June 19, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] [Fwd: [squeak-dev] Re: Bug in object finalization?]

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Yes this was also my impression. I will check 448 Stef On Jun 19, 2008, at 2:22 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > On Thu, 2008-06-19 at 13:51 +0200, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> Hi Adrian >> >> I pushed the updates. >> Can you check if this is ok? >> > For me it is not working. It doesn't load any package from > script132. I can't see what is going wrong but I checked > for a few packages that are in script132 and they didn't > get updated. > > Norbert > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

June 19, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] [Fwd: [squeak-dev] Re: Bug in object finalization?]

by Norbert Hartl

On Thu, 2008-06-19 at 13:51 +0200, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Hi Adrian > > I pushed the updates. > Can you check if this is ok? > For me it is not working. It doesn't load any package from script132. I can't see what is going wrong but I checked for a few packages that are in script132 and they didn't get updated. Norbert

June 19, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] [Fwd: [squeak-dev] Re: Bug in object finalization?]

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

adrian should I used al.448 which is in the inbox? Stef On Jun 18, 2008, at 11:04 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > - changed WeakRegistry to use WeakIdentityKeyDictionary (http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=6347 > ) > - FinalizerTest reverted to real test case > - added missing class variables to DigitalSigntureAlgorithm > - Fix issue #13: TraitsTests pollutes ProtoObject subclasses (Mantis > 7090) > - make BitmapStreamTest clean up the file bitmapStreamTest.ref.extSeg

June 19, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] [Fwd: [squeak-dev] Re: Bug in object finalization?]

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi Adrian I pushed the updates. Can you check if this is ok? Stef On Jun 18, 2008, at 11:04 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > - changed WeakRegistry to use WeakIdentityKeyDictionary (http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=6347 > ) > - FinalizerTest reverted to real test case > - added missing class variables to DigitalSigntureAlgorithm > - Fix issue #13: TraitsTests pollutes ProtoObject subclasses (Mantis > 7090) > - make BitmapStreamTest clean up the file bitmapStreamTest.ref.extSeg

June 19, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd:

by Oscar Nierstrasz

What about this one? http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x275/rairadium/12_Barad_Dur_Paul_Lasaine… ;-) On Jun 19, 2008, at 12:25, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > I would stop for now and keep this one for example > > <Picture 1.pdf> > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 19, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd:

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

I would stop for now and keep this one for example

June 19, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] [Fwd: [squeak-dev] Re: Bug in object finalization?]

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

excellent I will push the cs in the stream Stef On Jun 18, 2008, at 11:04 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > Hi Stef, > > I harvested most of the remaining changes in the inbox, including > Norberts fix (see other mail in this thread). > > - changed WeakRegistry to use WeakIdentityKeyDictionary (http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=6347 > ) > - FinalizerTest reverted to real test case > - added missing class variables to DigitalSigntureAlgorithm > - Fix issue #13: TraitsTests pollutes ProtoObject subclasses (Mantis > 7090) > - make BitmapStreamTest clean up the file bitmapStreamTest.ref.extSeg > > I pushed everything into the Pharo repository, updated ScriptLoader > (update10042), and moved the relevant packages from PharoInbox to > PharoTreatedInbox. > > Cheer, > Adrian > > On Jun 18, 2008, at 22:47 , StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> Hi norbert >> >> did you read the answer of nicolas on squeak-dev on your question. >> I read the mantis entry he mentioned >> but i read superficially. :) >> >> Stef >> >> On Jun 18, 2008, at 9:40 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 21:37 +0200, Adrian Lienhard wrote: >>>> Hi Norbert, >>>> >>>> We do this kind of scripts in the ScriptLoader. Just let me know >>>> when >>>> you published your slice and I will prepare the ScriptLoader update >>>> script which Stef can then push into the update stream. >>>> >>> I published the slice 1 minute before sending the mail :) >>> >>> Have fun, >>> >>> Norbert >>>> Adrian >>>> >>>> On Jun 18, 2008, at 19:30 , Norbert Hartl wrote: >>>> >>>>> So, >>>>> >>>>> now I'm all for fixing it and ressurect the test case. >>>>> I'll upload something to PharoInbox. Afterwards it needs >>>>> to be reinitialized. What is the preferred way of having >>>>> doits in the update stream? >>>>> >>>>> Anyway I uploaded SLICE-WeakRegistryAndFinalizerTestFix >>>>> to PharoInbox. >>>>> >>>>> afterwards a >>>>> >>>>> WeakRegistry default initialize: WeakRegistry default size >>>>> >>>>> will be necessary. >>>>> >>>>> Norbert >>>>> >>>>> From: Andreas Raab <andreas.raab(a)gmx.de> >>>>> Date: June 18, 2008 7:02:11 PM GMT+02:00 >>>>> To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >>>>>> >>>>> Subject: [squeak-dev] Re: Bug in object finalization? >>>>> Reply-To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Norbert Hartl wrote: >>>>>> On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 09:22 -0700, Andreas Raab wrote: >>>>>>> Norbert Hartl wrote: >>>>>>>> There was a test in 3.9 testing this (it failed). In 3.10 >>>>>>>> the test got removed but I think it is a bug. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What do you think? >>>>>>> The test itself is buggy (see http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=6347) >>>>>>> but once you fix the test it illustrates a problem in >>>>>>> WeakRegistry which needs to use a WeakIdentityKeyDictionary >>>>>>> instead of a WeakKeyDictionary. >>>>>>> >>>>>> Ok, what I said. Do you see an harmful side effects by exchanging >>>>>> the dictionary? >>>>> >>>>> No - we've fixed this a long time ago in our code base. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> - Andreas >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- >>>>> project >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

June 19, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd:

by Samuel MORELLO

Hi all and thanks for your comments. As i said to stephane i have tried your different remarks (top of the lighthouse, size of the text, .. ) but i am not convaince about the tests i have made. For the last version, when i tried to put a "n" at the top of the lighthouse, it was not clear. So i have put the "eye" a little bit higher to have a little more distinction when the logo is small. For me, I like the eye on top the lighthouse it can have significations if we want... (pharo community take care of his developers, for example, ...;- ) May be we can put in standby this logo for now and test it in different situations to have a better idea of it. and then modify it again ? (wiki, keynote template, ...) It is not that i do not want to modify the logo but i stagnate a little bit for now. Saying that, you can continue to send your remarks on it . May be we will find something that solve our problem. Regarding the gloss effect i will create a declinaison of this one. What do you think ? Thanks, Samuel Le 18 juin 08 Ã 23:31, Lukas Renggli a Ã©crit : >>> Peux tu me dire si cette version va mieux ? >>> Jai essayÃ© avec un n mais ca ne va pas des masses. >>> J'ai ecartÃ© l'espace entre 'l'oeil' et le base du phare. En petit >>> ca passe mieux. > > I like the colors, but it looks a bit flat in my opinion. What about > some gloss on the letters and the a flare of the light? > > Also I don't know if the "distorted" letters underline the strength > (stable, clean) of Pharo? > > Cheers, > Lukas > > -- > Lukas Renggli > http://www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 19, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd:

by Lukas Renggli

> > Peux tu me dire si cette version va mieux ? > > Jai essayÃ© avec un n mais ca ne va pas des masses. > > J'ai ecartÃ© l'espace entre 'l'oeil' et le base du phare. En petit > > ca passe mieux. I like the colors, but it looks a bit flat in my opinion. What about some gloss on the letters and the a flare of the light? Also I don't know if the "distorted" letters underline the strength (stable, clean) of Pharo? Cheers, Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch

June 18, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] [Fwd: [squeak-dev] Re: Bug in object finalization?]

by Adrian Lienhard

On Jun 18, 2008, at 23:19 , Norbert Hartl wrote: > On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 23:04 +0200, Adrian Lienhard wrote: >> > I don't get it into the image via update stream. Is there an > additional > action to be taken for this to happen? yes, Stef usually pushes updates into the stream. Adrian > > > Norbert >> Cheer, >> Adrian >> >> On Jun 18, 2008, at 22:47 , StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> >>> Hi norbert >>> >>> did you read the answer of nicolas on squeak-dev on your question. I >>> read the mantis entry he mentioned >>> but i read superficially. :) >>> >>> Stef >>> >>> On Jun 18, 2008, at 9:40 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: >>> >>>> On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 21:37 +0200, Adrian Lienhard wrote: >>>>> Hi Norbert, >>>>> >>>>> We do this kind of scripts in the ScriptLoader. Just let me know >>>>> when >>>>> you published your slice and I will prepare the ScriptLoader >>>>> update >>>>> script which Stef can then push into the update stream. >>>>> >>>> I published the slice 1 minute before sending the mail :) >>>> >>>> Have fun, >>>> >>>> Norbert >>>>> Adrian >>>>> >>>>> On Jun 18, 2008, at 19:30 , Norbert Hartl wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> So, >>>>>> >>>>>> now I'm all for fixing it and ressurect the test case. >>>>>> I'll upload something to PharoInbox. Afterwards it needs >>>>>> to be reinitialized. What is the preferred way of having >>>>>> doits in the update stream? >>>>>> >>>>>> Anyway I uploaded SLICE-WeakRegistryAndFinalizerTestFix >>>>>> to PharoInbox. >>>>>> >>>>>> afterwards a >>>>>> >>>>>> WeakRegistry default initialize: WeakRegistry default size >>>>>> >>>>>> will be necessary. >>>>>> >>>>>> Norbert >>>>>> >>>>>> From: Andreas Raab <andreas.raab(a)gmx.de> >>>>>> Date: June 18, 2008 7:02:11 PM GMT+02:00 >>>>>> To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >>>>>>> >>>>>> Subject: [squeak-dev] Re: Bug in object finalization? >>>>>> Reply-To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Norbert Hartl wrote: >>>>>>> On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 09:22 -0700, Andreas Raab wrote: >>>>>>>> Norbert Hartl wrote: >>>>>>>>> There was a test in 3.9 testing this (it failed). In 3.10 >>>>>>>>> the test got removed but I think it is a bug. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What do you think? >>>>>>>> The test itself is buggy (see http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=6347) >>>>>>>> but once you fix the test it illustrates a problem in >>>>>>>> WeakRegistry which needs to use a WeakIdentityKeyDictionary >>>>>>>> instead of a WeakKeyDictionary. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ok, what I said. Do you see an harmful side effects by >>>>>>> exchanging >>>>>>> the dictionary? >>>>>> >>>>>> No - we've fixed this a long time ago in our code base. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> - Andreas >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- >>>>> project >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 18, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] [Fwd: [squeak-dev] Re: Bug in object finalization?]

by Norbert Hartl

On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 23:04 +0200, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > Hi Stef, > > I harvested most of the remaining changes in the inbox, including > Norberts fix (see other mail in this thread). > > - changed WeakRegistry to use WeakIdentityKeyDictionary (http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=6347 > ) > - FinalizerTest reverted to real test case > - added missing class variables to DigitalSigntureAlgorithm > - Fix issue #13: TraitsTests pollutes ProtoObject subclasses (Mantis > 7090) > - make BitmapStreamTest clean up the file bitmapStreamTest.ref.extSeg > > I pushed everything into the Pharo repository, updated ScriptLoader > (update10042), and moved the relevant packages from PharoInbox to > PharoTreatedInbox. > I don't get it into the image via update stream. Is there an additional action to be taken for this to happen? Norbert > Cheer, > Adrian > > On Jun 18, 2008, at 22:47 , StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > > > Hi norbert > > > > did you read the answer of nicolas on squeak-dev on your question. I > > read the mantis entry he mentioned > > but i read superficially. :) > > > > Stef > > > > On Jun 18, 2008, at 9:40 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > > > >> On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 21:37 +0200, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > >>> Hi Norbert, > >>> > >>> We do this kind of scripts in the ScriptLoader. Just let me know > >>> when > >>> you published your slice and I will prepare the ScriptLoader update > >>> script which Stef can then push into the update stream. > >>> > >> I published the slice 1 minute before sending the mail :) > >> > >> Have fun, > >> > >> Norbert > >>> Adrian > >>> > >>> On Jun 18, 2008, at 19:30 , Norbert Hartl wrote: > >>> > >>>> So, > >>>> > >>>> now I'm all for fixing it and ressurect the test case. > >>>> I'll upload something to PharoInbox. Afterwards it needs > >>>> to be reinitialized. What is the preferred way of having > >>>> doits in the update stream? > >>>> > >>>> Anyway I uploaded SLICE-WeakRegistryAndFinalizerTestFix > >>>> to PharoInbox. > >>>> > >>>> afterwards a > >>>> > >>>> WeakRegistry default initialize: WeakRegistry default size > >>>> > >>>> will be necessary. > >>>> > >>>> Norbert > >>>> > >>>> From: Andreas Raab <andreas.raab(a)gmx.de> > >>>> Date: June 18, 2008 7:02:11 PM GMT+02:00 > >>>> To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > >>>>> > >>>> Subject: [squeak-dev] Re: Bug in object finalization? > >>>> Reply-To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Norbert Hartl wrote: > >>>>> On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 09:22 -0700, Andreas Raab wrote: > >>>>>> Norbert Hartl wrote: > >>>>>>> There was a test in 3.9 testing this (it failed). In 3.10 > >>>>>>> the test got removed but I think it is a bug. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> What do you think? > >>>>>> The test itself is buggy (see http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=6347) > >>>>>> but once you fix the test it illustrates a problem in > >>>>>> WeakRegistry which needs to use a WeakIdentityKeyDictionary > >>>>>> instead of a WeakKeyDictionary. > >>>>>> > >>>>> Ok, what I said. Do you see an harmful side effects by exchanging > >>>>> the dictionary? > >>>> > >>>> No - we've fixed this a long time ago in our code base. > >>>> > >>>> Cheers, > >>>> - Andreas > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 18, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] [Fwd: [squeak-dev] Re: Bug in object finalization?]

by Norbert Hartl

On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 22:47 +0200, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Hi norbert > > did you read the answer of nicolas on squeak-dev on your question. I > read the mantis entry he mentioned > but i read superficially. :) > Yes, see my other mails. Everything is best now. Norbert > Stef > > On Jun 18, 2008, at 9:40 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > > > On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 21:37 +0200, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > >> Hi Norbert, > >> > >> We do this kind of scripts in the ScriptLoader. Just let me know when > >> you published your slice and I will prepare the ScriptLoader update > >> script which Stef can then push into the update stream. > >> > > I published the slice 1 minute before sending the mail :) > > > > Have fun, > > > > Norbert > >> Adrian > >> > >> On Jun 18, 2008, at 19:30 , Norbert Hartl wrote: > >> > >>> So, > >>> > >>> now I'm all for fixing it and ressurect the test case. > >>> I'll upload something to PharoInbox. Afterwards it needs > >>> to be reinitialized. What is the preferred way of having > >>> doits in the update stream? > >>> > >>> Anyway I uploaded SLICE-WeakRegistryAndFinalizerTestFix > >>> to PharoInbox. > >>> > >>> afterwards a > >>> > >>> WeakRegistry default initialize: WeakRegistry default size > >>> > >>> will be necessary. > >>> > >>> Norbert > >>> > >>> From: Andreas Raab <andreas.raab(a)gmx.de> > >>> Date: June 18, 2008 7:02:11 PM GMT+02:00 > >>> To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > >>>> > >>> Subject: [squeak-dev] Re: Bug in object finalization? > >>> Reply-To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Norbert Hartl wrote: > >>>> On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 09:22 -0700, Andreas Raab wrote: > >>>>> Norbert Hartl wrote: > >>>>>> There was a test in 3.9 testing this (it failed). In 3.10 > >>>>>> the test got removed but I think it is a bug. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> What do you think? > >>>>> The test itself is buggy (see http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=6347) > >>>>> but once you fix the test it illustrates a problem in > >>>>> WeakRegistry which needs to use a WeakIdentityKeyDictionary > >>>>> instead of a WeakKeyDictionary. > >>>>> > >>>> Ok, what I said. Do you see an harmful side effects by exchanging > >>>> the dictionary? > >>> > >>> No - we've fixed this a long time ago in our code base. > >>> > >>> Cheers, > >>> - Andreas > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 18, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] [Fwd: [squeak-dev] Re: Bug in object finalization?]

by Norbert Hartl

On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 23:00 +0200, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > Thanks, Norbert, I integrated your change. > I changed the migration script to make it also work if people do > updates in an image that already has values registered for > finalization, and for all existing weak registries, not only for the > finalization registry. Like this the code and the state are in sync: > > WeakRegistry allInstancesDo: [ :each | > (each instVarNamed: 'valueDictionary') > primitiveChangeClassTo: WeakIdentityKeyDictionary basicNew; > rehash ]. > Great! I would have done something similar if I only had the knowledge :) Norbert > Cheers, > Adrian > > On Jun 18, 2008, at 21:40 , Norbert Hartl wrote: > > > On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 21:37 +0200, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > >> Hi Norbert, > >> > >> We do this kind of scripts in the ScriptLoader. Just let me know when > >> you published your slice and I will prepare the ScriptLoader update > >> script which Stef can then push into the update stream. > >> > > I published the slice 1 minute before sending the mail :) > > > > Have fun, > > > > Norbert > >> Adrian > >> > >> On Jun 18, 2008, at 19:30 , Norbert Hartl wrote: > >> > >>> So, > >>> > >>> now I'm all for fixing it and ressurect the test case. > >>> I'll upload something to PharoInbox. Afterwards it needs > >>> to be reinitialized. What is the preferred way of having > >>> doits in the update stream? > >>> > >>> Anyway I uploaded SLICE-WeakRegistryAndFinalizerTestFix > >>> to PharoInbox. > >>> > >>> afterwards a > >>> > >>> WeakRegistry default initialize: WeakRegistry default size > >>> > >>> will be necessary. > >>> > >>> Norbert > >>> > >>> From: Andreas Raab <andreas.raab(a)gmx.de> > >>> Date: June 18, 2008 7:02:11 PM GMT+02:00 > >>> To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > >>>> > >>> Subject: [squeak-dev] Re: Bug in object finalization? > >>> Reply-To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Norbert Hartl wrote: > >>>> On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 09:22 -0700, Andreas Raab wrote: > >>>>> Norbert Hartl wrote: > >>>>>> There was a test in 3.9 testing this (it failed). In 3.10 > >>>>>> the test got removed but I think it is a bug. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> What do you think? > >>>>> The test itself is buggy (see http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=6347) > >>>>> but once you fix the test it illustrates a problem in > >>>>> WeakRegistry which needs to use a WeakIdentityKeyDictionary > >>>>> instead of a WeakKeyDictionary. > >>>>> > >>>> Ok, what I said. Do you see an harmful side effects by exchanging > >>>> the dictionary? > >>> > >>> No - we've fixed this a long time ago in our code base. > >>> > >>> Cheers, > >>> - Andreas > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 18, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] [Fwd: [squeak-dev] Re: Bug in object finalization?]

by Adrian Lienhard

Hi Stef, I harvested most of the remaining changes in the inbox, including Norberts fix (see other mail in this thread). - changed WeakRegistry to use WeakIdentityKeyDictionary (http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=6347 ) - FinalizerTest reverted to real test case - added missing class variables to DigitalSigntureAlgorithm - Fix issue #13: TraitsTests pollutes ProtoObject subclasses (Mantis 7090) - make BitmapStreamTest clean up the file bitmapStreamTest.ref.extSeg I pushed everything into the Pharo repository, updated ScriptLoader (update10042), and moved the relevant packages from PharoInbox to PharoTreatedInbox. Cheer, Adrian On Jun 18, 2008, at 22:47 , StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Hi norbert > > did you read the answer of nicolas on squeak-dev on your question. I > read the mantis entry he mentioned > but i read superficially. :) > > Stef > > On Jun 18, 2008, at 9:40 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > >> On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 21:37 +0200, Adrian Lienhard wrote: >>> Hi Norbert, >>> >>> We do this kind of scripts in the ScriptLoader. Just let me know >>> when >>> you published your slice and I will prepare the ScriptLoader update >>> script which Stef can then push into the update stream. >>> >> I published the slice 1 minute before sending the mail :) >> >> Have fun, >> >> Norbert >>> Adrian >>> >>> On Jun 18, 2008, at 19:30 , Norbert Hartl wrote: >>> >>>> So, >>>> >>>> now I'm all for fixing it and ressurect the test case. >>>> I'll upload something to PharoInbox. Afterwards it needs >>>> to be reinitialized. What is the preferred way of having >>>> doits in the update stream? >>>> >>>> Anyway I uploaded SLICE-WeakRegistryAndFinalizerTestFix >>>> to PharoInbox. >>>> >>>> afterwards a >>>> >>>> WeakRegistry default initialize: WeakRegistry default size >>>> >>>> will be necessary. >>>> >>>> Norbert >>>> >>>> From: Andreas Raab <andreas.raab(a)gmx.de> >>>> Date: June 18, 2008 7:02:11 PM GMT+02:00 >>>> To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >>>>> >>>> Subject: [squeak-dev] Re: Bug in object finalization? >>>> Reply-To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Norbert Hartl wrote: >>>>> On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 09:22 -0700, Andreas Raab wrote: >>>>>> Norbert Hartl wrote: >>>>>>> There was a test in 3.9 testing this (it failed). In 3.10 >>>>>>> the test got removed but I think it is a bug. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What do you think? >>>>>> The test itself is buggy (see http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=6347) >>>>>> but once you fix the test it illustrates a problem in >>>>>> WeakRegistry which needs to use a WeakIdentityKeyDictionary >>>>>> instead of a WeakKeyDictionary. >>>>>> >>>>> Ok, what I said. Do you see an harmful side effects by exchanging >>>>> the dictionary? >>>> >>>> No - we've fixed this a long time ago in our code base. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> - Andreas >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 18, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] [Fwd: [squeak-dev] Re: Bug in object finalization?]

by Adrian Lienhard

Thanks, Norbert, I integrated your change. I changed the migration script to make it also work if people do updates in an image that already has values registered for finalization, and for all existing weak registries, not only for the finalization registry. Like this the code and the state are in sync: WeakRegistry allInstancesDo: [ :each | (each instVarNamed: 'valueDictionary') primitiveChangeClassTo: WeakIdentityKeyDictionary basicNew; rehash ]. Cheers, Adrian On Jun 18, 2008, at 21:40 , Norbert Hartl wrote: > On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 21:37 +0200, Adrian Lienhard wrote: >> Hi Norbert, >> >> We do this kind of scripts in the ScriptLoader. Just let me know when >> you published your slice and I will prepare the ScriptLoader update >> script which Stef can then push into the update stream. >> > I published the slice 1 minute before sending the mail :) > > Have fun, > > Norbert >> Adrian >> >> On Jun 18, 2008, at 19:30 , Norbert Hartl wrote: >> >>> So, >>> >>> now I'm all for fixing it and ressurect the test case. >>> I'll upload something to PharoInbox. Afterwards it needs >>> to be reinitialized. What is the preferred way of having >>> doits in the update stream? >>> >>> Anyway I uploaded SLICE-WeakRegistryAndFinalizerTestFix >>> to PharoInbox. >>> >>> afterwards a >>> >>> WeakRegistry default initialize: WeakRegistry default size >>> >>> will be necessary. >>> >>> Norbert >>> >>> From: Andreas Raab <andreas.raab(a)gmx.de> >>> Date: June 18, 2008 7:02:11 PM GMT+02:00 >>> To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >>>> >>> Subject: [squeak-dev] Re: Bug in object finalization? >>> Reply-To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >>>> >>> >>> >>> Norbert Hartl wrote: >>>> On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 09:22 -0700, Andreas Raab wrote: >>>>> Norbert Hartl wrote: >>>>>> There was a test in 3.9 testing this (it failed). In 3.10 >>>>>> the test got removed but I think it is a bug. >>>>>> >>>>>> What do you think? >>>>> The test itself is buggy (see http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=6347) >>>>> but once you fix the test it illustrates a problem in >>>>> WeakRegistry which needs to use a WeakIdentityKeyDictionary >>>>> instead of a WeakKeyDictionary. >>>>> >>>> Ok, what I said. Do you see an harmful side effects by exchanging >>>> the dictionary? >>> >>> No - we've fixed this a long time ago in our code base. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> - Andreas >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 18, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] [Fwd: [squeak-dev] Re: Bug in object finalization?]

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi norbert did you read the answer of nicolas on squeak-dev on your question. I read the mantis entry he mentioned but i read superficially. :) Stef On Jun 18, 2008, at 9:40 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 21:37 +0200, Adrian Lienhard wrote: >> Hi Norbert, >> >> We do this kind of scripts in the ScriptLoader. Just let me know when >> you published your slice and I will prepare the ScriptLoader update >> script which Stef can then push into the update stream. >> > I published the slice 1 minute before sending the mail :) > > Have fun, > > Norbert >> Adrian >> >> On Jun 18, 2008, at 19:30 , Norbert Hartl wrote: >> >>> So, >>> >>> now I'm all for fixing it and ressurect the test case. >>> I'll upload something to PharoInbox. Afterwards it needs >>> to be reinitialized. What is the preferred way of having >>> doits in the update stream? >>> >>> Anyway I uploaded SLICE-WeakRegistryAndFinalizerTestFix >>> to PharoInbox. >>> >>> afterwards a >>> >>> WeakRegistry default initialize: WeakRegistry default size >>> >>> will be necessary. >>> >>> Norbert >>> >>> From: Andreas Raab <andreas.raab(a)gmx.de> >>> Date: June 18, 2008 7:02:11 PM GMT+02:00 >>> To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >>>> >>> Subject: [squeak-dev] Re: Bug in object finalization? >>> Reply-To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >>>> >>> >>> >>> Norbert Hartl wrote: >>>> On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 09:22 -0700, Andreas Raab wrote: >>>>> Norbert Hartl wrote: >>>>>> There was a test in 3.9 testing this (it failed). In 3.10 >>>>>> the test got removed but I think it is a bug. >>>>>> >>>>>> What do you think? >>>>> The test itself is buggy (see http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=6347) >>>>> but once you fix the test it illustrates a problem in >>>>> WeakRegistry which needs to use a WeakIdentityKeyDictionary >>>>> instead of a WeakKeyDictionary. >>>>> >>>> Ok, what I said. Do you see an harmful side effects by exchanging >>>> the dictionary? >>> >>> No - we've fixed this a long time ago in our code base. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> - Andreas >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

June 18, 2008

[Pharo-project] Fwd:

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Begin forwarded message: > From: Samuel MORELLO <samuel.morello(a)ouvanous.com> > Date: June 18, 2008 7:59:53 PM CEDT > To: StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > > > StÃ©pahne, > > Peux tu me dire si cette version va mieux ? > Jai essayÃ© avec un n mais ca ne va pas des masses. > J'ai ecartÃ© l'espace entre 'l'oeil' et le base du phare. En petit > ca passe mieux. > > Qu'en pesnes tu ? > HÃ©sites pas a dire quoi > > Merci > Sam

June 18, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] [Fwd: [squeak-dev] Re: Bug in object finalization?]

by Norbert Hartl

On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 21:37 +0200, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > Hi Norbert, > > We do this kind of scripts in the ScriptLoader. Just let me know when > you published your slice and I will prepare the ScriptLoader update > script which Stef can then push into the update stream. > I published the slice 1 minute before sending the mail :) Have fun, Norbert > Adrian > > On Jun 18, 2008, at 19:30 , Norbert Hartl wrote: > > > So, > > > > now I'm all for fixing it and ressurect the test case. > > I'll upload something to PharoInbox. Afterwards it needs > > to be reinitialized. What is the preferred way of having > > doits in the update stream? > > > > Anyway I uploaded SLICE-WeakRegistryAndFinalizerTestFix > > to PharoInbox. > > > > afterwards a > > > > WeakRegistry default initialize: WeakRegistry default size > > > > will be necessary. > > > > Norbert > > > > From: Andreas Raab <andreas.raab(a)gmx.de> > > Date: June 18, 2008 7:02:11 PM GMT+02:00 > > To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > > > > > Subject: [squeak-dev] Re: Bug in object finalization? > > Reply-To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > > > > > > > > > Norbert Hartl wrote: > >> On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 09:22 -0700, Andreas Raab wrote: > >>> Norbert Hartl wrote: > >>>> There was a test in 3.9 testing this (it failed). In 3.10 > >>>> the test got removed but I think it is a bug. > >>>> > >>>> What do you think? > >>> The test itself is buggy (see http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=6347) > >>> but once you fix the test it illustrates a problem in > >>> WeakRegistry which needs to use a WeakIdentityKeyDictionary > >>> instead of a WeakKeyDictionary. > >>> > >> Ok, what I said. Do you see an harmful side effects by exchanging > >> the dictionary? > > > > No - we've fixed this a long time ago in our code base. > > > > Cheers, > > - Andreas > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 18, 2008