Is there a way to know why it is broken, for example running it from the CLI? Can you give me the URL of the downloaded VM? Thanks Hilaire Le 24/02/2019 à 13:26, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit :

The application itself remains 'broken', but if I download a 32-bit Pharo 7 VM, I can open the image inside it and open a sketch:

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Sadly, this is of little use as it will fetch a linux vm. Can you copy it somewhere so I can fetch the archive? The Linux VM at the pharo.org/download was not functionning, so may be the same with mac vm. Hilaire Le 24/02/2019 à 14:42, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit :

curl get.pharo.org/vm70 | bash

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Yes, it depends on the platform on which you execute that expression. It resolved to http://files.pharo.org/get-files/70/pharo-mac-stable.zip

On 24 Feb 2019, at 20:26, Hilaire <hilaire@drgeo.eu> wrote:

I know. Last summer I give a try to the 64bits version, but there was a show stopper issue, the PNG image decoder on 64bits architecture.

Hilaire

Le 24/02/2019 à 13:26, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit :

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Note that on macOS and Linux, 64 bit is the default and 32 bit is the exception that will be harder to get running.

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I think I am running out of option. Since about 10 years, it is the first time I am stuck with Pharo to deliver an end user application on Mac. Any idea? Can some try on a mac to run as this for any meaningful feedback? cd ./DrGeo.app ./Contents/MacOS/Pharo ./Contents/Resources/drgeo.image Thanks Hilaire Le 24/02/2019 à 20:55, Hilaire a écrit :

Thanks Sven,

It looks like the same VM I used with the previous bundle. md5sum on the Pharo executable produced the same check sum.

Still I packaged one with this bundle, this time I preserved the plugin lib symlink in the zip archive, if you want to give a try.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/me1z6prfln1pbe8/DrGeo-mac-19.03a.zip?dl=0

-- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu

Hi Hilaire,

Le 25 févr. 2019 à 21:55, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven@stfx.eu> a écrit :

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On 25 Feb 2019, at 21:41, Hilaire <hilaire@drgeo.eu> wrote:

I think I am running out of option.

Since about 10 years, it is the first time I am stuck with Pharo to deliver an end user application on Mac.

Any idea?

Can some try on a mac to run as this for any meaningful feedback?

cd ./DrGeo.app

./Contents/MacOS/Pharo ./Contents/Resources/drgeo.image

prometheus:DrGeo.app sven$ ./Contents/vm/Pharo ./Contents/Resources/drgeo.image 2019-02-25 21:49:49.816 Pharo[68128:5223153] No Info.plist file in application bundle or no NSPrincipalClass in the Info.plist file, exiting

This is not my area of expertise, but you are trying to do this without having a Mac and/or basic Mac developer experience ?

Those .app bundles are really harder than they look. This is very much related to how macOS works (including virus and malware protection).

Can't you look at the PharoLauncher for how this should be done ? Maybe the developers working on PharoLauncher can help ?

Pharo Launcher mac packaging is available here: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-launcher/tree/development/mac You can skip the signing part if not needed. We reuse the app built for opensmalltalk vm but I fear it is a bit outdated. I tried to update the nib file but this format is not used anymore. It is now replaced by xib file (and I do not know much on OS X UI dev). If you do not need to customize it too much, it should be ok. HTP, Christophe https://stackoverflow.com/questions/3726400/what-is-the-difference-between-n...

Thanks, Not sure about what is the nib and xib you are mentioning. Will check on that later. I noted the Info.plist is a lot shorter in PharoLauncher compared to the Mac OSX VM zip archive one, though. Any reason? Le 26/02/2019 à 09:11, Christophe Demarey a écrit :

Pharo Launcher mac packaging is available here: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-launcher/tree/development/mac You can skip the signing part if not needed. We reuse the app built for opensmalltalk vm but I fear it is a bit outdated. I tried to update the nib file but this format is not used anymore. It is now replaced by xib file (and I do not know much on OS X UI dev). If you do not need to customize it too much, it should be ok.

-- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu

Hi, I have a build script too to build the drgeo bundle from scratch [1], I will take a look yours to add up. In the mean time I built a new mac os bundle with your info.plist. I tested it on a mac, but without privilege to move it to the Applications location. After downloading it to the Desktop folder, I can experiment: 1. Double click on the app does not work 2. From a shell, "Desktop/DrGeo.app/Contents/MacOS/Pharo" starts DrGeo fine, without error, locale is correctly detected 3. Double click again on the app starts it this time, but I got a funny error message: "error with stdout does not exist, force recursive file creation, filename "stdout" Can someone with privilege to the Application location, test this new DrGeo bundle[2]? THANKS ! I own you free meals for the help. [1] https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~drgeo-developers/drgeo/trunk/view/head:/build/... [2] https://www.dropbox.com/s/gbey77opzpw143a/DrGeo-mac-19.03a.zip?dl=0 Le 26/02/2019 à 21:09, Christophe Demarey a écrit :

Basically, it is where you design the UI part of the app. In our case, it is just the menu of the main app.

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I noted the Info.plist is a lot shorter in PharoLauncher compared to the Mac OSX VM zip archive one, though.

Any reason? I removed useless entries like associations files type / icons

Also, what I pointed is to build a dmg used to deliver the app. Building of the application is done through a shell script: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-build-scripts/blob/master/build-platf...

you could use it to package your image / vm / ressources in an app bundle.

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Thanks for the feedback Cedrick. We have all different experiences, I guess depending on the OS X version. Did you try to drag the DrGeo.app in the Application location and start it from there? Hilaire Le 28/02/2019 à 13:08, Cédrick Béler a écrit :

Can someone with privilege to the Application location, test this new DrGeo bundle[2]? THANKS !

-- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu

Hi, Out of curiosity, among your test, did you try to copy the app in the Application location? Thanks Hilaire Le 28/02/2019 à 15:52, Christophe Demarey a écrit :

 I also did a quick test:

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Le 25/02/2019 à 21:55, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit :

prometheus:DrGeo.app sven$ ./Contents/vm/Pharo ../Contents/Resources/drgeo.image 2019-02-25 21:49:49.816 Pharo[68128:5223153] No Info.plist file in application bundle or no NSPrincipalClass in the Info.plist file, exiting

Both Info.plist and NSPrincipalClass are present. Are you sure about the path to the drgeo.image, the '../' should be './' ?

This is not my area of expertise, but you are trying to do this without having a Mac and/or basic Mac developer experience ?

Indeed, no Mac no Mac devel experience. This was has this since many year. In my school our 24 seats computer room is mac OS, so I kind have no choice to get it functioning on mac

Those .app bundles are really harder than they look. This is very much related to how macOS works (including virus and malware protection). Yes, I have no idea. The last time I worked with bundled application was with RiscOS, it was transparent.

Can't you look at the PharoLauncher for how this should be done ? Maybe the developers working on PharoLauncher can help ?

Yes good idea, I extracted the dmg archive on linux, its Info.plist is minimal. WIll take a look. Hilaire -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu