Tim, you can try algernon for what you want. Thus, I am not sure if it is working in Pharo 1.1. Maybe Esteban can tell you. On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr
wrote:
On Aug 18, 2010, at 1:11 PM, TimM wrote:
Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Is Find class (cmd-F) in the default browser not enough? or typing in any pane the class and doing cmd-B
The problem I find with cmd-F is that if I'm already in the middle of typing a method - it wants to refocus my browser on the new class (often causing me to have to save changes that I'm not finished doing yet). AND - there is also no back button to go back to where I was typing my method (so I've lost my context).
Yes Romain did booster which allows you to leave a method uncompiled in a browser and navigate to another one.... this was never integrated. Now we should really rethink the navigation
So it would seem the "Pharo way" is to open a new browser window - but its not a smooth operation. Probably the closest is to start typing a class name where I am and then use o/e-complete (but then I often have to backspace over that text when I figure out actually what I needed to do). So it all feels a bit more awkward than it should be?
Sure it is bad :)
But I guess the bigger question is - how can you guys that know how to do this, impart the information and direction so that those of us following behind can meaningfully contribute without wasting your time? I do not know what you imply exactly. Now my point is that if you improve the tools we will integrate them. I would really like to get better tools.
Some of your points in this message helped thanks - what I was trying to get at was, I was confused about which framework to learn and then build on. I keep hearing about lots of different things OB, Glamour... and then there seem to be several browsers (System, O2...) - so its not clear where to start? I also would want to do it in a way that fits "the vision" - but i'm not yet clear on what that vision is (I'm still learning)
The problem is a question of resources. If you give me one guy for a year I would start a new browser from scratch. Now since lukas is improving OB may be this is the way to go.
Do you think there could be a How to Contribute to Pharo tools BOF at
ESUG? What is the direction - is it OB or is it Glamor? How do you get started with OB, and what kinds of tools do we need?
- We need a better Test Runner Monticello Browser (Benjmain did a better RecentMessageSet) Deeper Refactoring integration If you want to help there is plenty of topics. For example helping at integrating my my package implementation
This list will give me a good starting point to talk to people at ESUG and hopefully I will "learn to fish" so I can help out more productively.
Again, I'm sorry to bother everyone.
don't apologize all the time
Tim
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