I like also the Borg approach and having Pharo ideas and tech glued/enhancing not only to other techs, but also to other cultural practices, like writing . That's why I'm supporting (Pandoc's) Markdown and data storytelling in Pharo. They connect us to several communities beyond programmers: activists, journalists, (not computer science) scientists and researchers. Cheers, Offray On 30/12/17 22:41, Kjell Godo wrote:
i like Pharo    and i want Pharo to do well and i want to use Pharo    and i like very much all the work being done on Pharo yes      Iâm very impressed and hopeful    and i would not wish for that to slow down but can Pharo do everything by itself? i donât think so i used to feel like i could not leave Smalltalk    and andyâs comments and bullet proof correctness    because the outside world was such a barrier to entry    and the outside world was always missing something    that makes Smalltalk essential and so i felt like i    could not use those other things but if Smalltalk could be added to those other things    then they could be ok   and i could see using them    like Racket clojure CommonLisp Shen Coq Haskell SwiProlog    StrawberryProlog Pixie Forth Factor etc  Ruby except itâs got a hell of a syntax    erlang    if Smalltalk could be added to them then they could be ok    but without Smalltalk they look just like hell    to me  what a travesty    unusable i donât like anything that smells like C all the C like like java etc    although turbo C was very nice   so they had to kill it  get rid of it    because itâs like they are so inferior and yet everybodyâs    first language is just like the quick sand you sink right into    never to be heard from again because God forbid you    should have to go through that again once is enough    so you sink right in never to be heard from again in any other venue    and itâs like these were just the langs that worked first    they got the network effect first and became the monopoly    and thatâs why people use them because God forbid    for bid that you should learn something new we all say if Smalltalk could be like the front end of some other things    Racket CommonLisp Shen etc then That is what i want and Smalltalk could be a back end too for things that it    does well like i want to use gemstone etc
let everything do what it does best and let them all talk    to each other is what i want thatâs the BorgLisp idea