I like also the Borg approach and having Pharo ideas and tech glued/enhancing not only to other techs, but also to other cultural practices, like writing . That's why I'm supporting (Pandoc's) Markdown and data storytelling in Pharo. They connect us to several communities beyond programmers: activists, journalists, (not computer science) scientists and researchers.

Cheers,

Offray

i like Pharo

�� �� ��and i want Pharo to do well and i want to use Pharo

�� �� ��and i like very much all the work being done on Pharo yes

�� �� �� �� �� I���m very impressed and hopeful��

�� �� ��and i would not wish for that to slow down

but can Pharo do everything by itself? i don���t think so

i used to feel like i could not leave Smalltalk

�� �� ��and andy���s comments and bullet proof correctness��

�� �� ��because the outside world was such a barrier to entry

�� �� ��and the outside world was always missing something

�� �� ��that makes Smalltalk essential and so i felt like i��

�� �� ��could not use those other things

but if Smalltalk could be added to those other things

�� �� ��then they could be ok �� ��and i could see using them

�� �� ��like Racket clojure CommonLisp Shen Coq Haskell SwiProlog��

�� �� ��StrawberryProlog Pixie Forth Factor etc �� Ruby except it���s got a hell of a syntax

�� �� ��erlang

�� �� ��if Smalltalk could be added to them then they could be ok

�� �� ��but without Smalltalk they look just like hell �� �� ��to me ��what a travesty

�� �� ��unusable��

i don���t like anything that smells like C all the C like like java etc

�� �� ��although turbo C was very nice �� ��so they had to kill it �� get rid of it

�� �� ��because it���s like they are so inferior and yet everybody���s��

�� �� ��first language is just like the quick sand you sink right into

�� �� ��never to be heard from again because God forbid you

�� �� ��should have to go through that again once is enough

�� �� ��so you sink right in never to be heard from again in any other venue

�� �� ��and it���s like these were just the langs that worked first

�� �� ��they got the network effect first and became the monopoly

�� �� ��and that���s why people use them because God forbid

�� �� ��for bid that you should learn something new we all say

if Smalltalk could be like the front end of some other things

�� �� ��Racket CommonLisp Shen etc then That is what i want

and Smalltalk could be a back end too for things that it

�� �� ��does well like i want to use gemstone etc

let everything do what it does best and let them all talk

�� �� ��to each other is what i want

that���s the BorgLisp idea