Looks we two have a difficult time disagreeing with each other cause we think alike. Yes it's very hard to put everything in a single tool. The window hell problem is something I have a lot issues with. Windowing systems are notorious for wasting screen estate which why I prefer custom GUIs . A big reason why I prefer GTSpotter too. It's not because I want to cram more info on my screen I actually want less. I am not a big fan of the three column browsing GUI of system browser but as tool is still very useful and very flexible. One tool I miss from Pharo is a bird eye view browser. Similar to the graphs we have seen Roassal people make showing the connection between classes and methods . Both with GTSpotter and System Browser it's easy to forget and lose track which method triggers which method which happens to me often when I study complex code. On the other hand each one of us have different way of thinking so I can definitely relate to why for someone GTSpotter may come nowhere near the 90% you mention. On Fri, 22 Jul 2016 at 15:51, Ben Coman <btc@openinworld.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 2:47 PM, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
Learn to use GTSpotter , will make your experience 10 times easier and faster.
Agreed for 90% of what I do, but its RealHard(TM) for a single tool to provide a magic 100% coverage of use cases.
The other 10% of the time I find the "Implementors of..." dialog provides something that GTSpotter doesn't - it provides a more permanent list you can scroll through, whereas GTSpotter is a transitory list. Further, I recently used Squeak again and their "Implementors of..." dialog had two additional behaviours missing from Pharo.
* In the "Implementors of..." code pane, selecting a message and doing another "Implementors of..." added them as a sub-tree-level in the existing dialog, whereas in Pharo a new "Implementors of..." window is opened. I liked this since it provided structure that I could navigate, instead of loosing the relationship of multiple opened windows as I chase a chain of implementers. I suffer badly from Too Many Windows Syndrome as it is (even if the shakes don't start until I'm onto my third row of the task bar)
* On a method in the list pane, menu item "More... > Remove from this browser" allows you you create a nice focused list of method your interested in - and its easy to switch back forth between this methods using arrow keys to quickly compare implementations.
cheers -ben
On Fri, 22 Jul 2016 at 08:43, Norbert Fortelny < norbert.fortelny@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks!
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