[Pharo-project] [update] #10500
10500 ----- Issue 1497: Saving preferences to disk gives an error Issue 1478: ScriptLoader loadFFI fails with a dependency error Issue 1437: Bitmap #decompress:fromByteArray:at: not wellformed Issue 1536: Use Bitmap DejaVu as default fonts Postscript does: Preferences removePreference: #automaticFlapLayout; removePreference: #navigatorOnLeftEdge; removePreference: #classicNavigatorEnabled. StrikeFont installDejaVu. Preferences setDefaultFonts: #( (setBalloonHelpFontTo: 'BitmapDejaVu' 9) (setButtonFontTo: 'BitmapDejaVu' 9) (setCodeFontTo: 'BitmapDejaVu' 9) (setHaloLabelFontTo: 'BitmapDejaVu' 9) (setListFontTo: 'BitmapDejaVu' 9) (setMenuFontTo: 'BitmapDejaVu' 9) (setSystemFontTo: 'BitmapDejaVu' 9) (setWindowTitleFontTo: 'BitmapDejaVuBold' 12))
Thanks, Marcus! One step closer to 1.0. Damien, I suggest not to select FreeType font in the Pharo image anymore but keep the Bitmap DejaVu font that comes with the core image now. The bitmap font is not that perfect, but apparently the speed differs enough. People that prefer the FreeType fonts can then easily switch if they like. Adrian On Dec 6, 2009, at 14:11 , Marcus Denker wrote:
10500 -----
Issue 1497: Saving preferences to disk gives an error Issue 1478: ScriptLoader loadFFI fails with a dependency error Issue 1437: Bitmap #decompress:fromByteArray:at: not wellformed Issue 1536: Use Bitmap DejaVu as default fonts
Postscript does:
Preferences removePreference: #automaticFlapLayout; removePreference: #navigatorOnLeftEdge; removePreference: #classicNavigatorEnabled.
StrikeFont installDejaVu. Preferences setDefaultFonts: #( (setBalloonHelpFontTo: 'BitmapDejaVu' 9) (setButtonFontTo: 'BitmapDejaVu' 9) (setCodeFontTo: 'BitmapDejaVu' 9) (setHaloLabelFontTo: 'BitmapDejaVu' 9) (setListFontTo: 'BitmapDejaVu' 9) (setMenuFontTo: 'BitmapDejaVu' 9) (setSystemFontTo: 'BitmapDejaVu' 9) (setWindowTitleFontTo: 'BitmapDejaVuBold' 12))
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2009/12/6 Adrian Lienhard <adi@netstyle.ch>:
Damien, I suggest not to select FreeType font in the Pharo image anymore but keep the Bitmap DejaVu font that comes with the core image now. The bitmap font is not that perfect, but apparently the speed differs enough. People that prefer the FreeType fonts can then easily switch if they like.
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LIkely someone should confirm it's fixed in the macintosh 5.x series of VMs On 2009-12-06, at 10:37 AM, Henrik Sperre Johansen wrote:
On 06.12.2009 15:28, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
Thanks, Marcus!
One step closer to 1.0.
Humm, better hope new VM versions are out before final release :) Without the BitBlt fixes, it looks kind of horrible when dragging a window...
Cheers, Henry
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Arg, now I see what you mean by dragging a window looks horrible... the whole text disappears. I'm using a Mac 4.2.2beta1U VM with the extra BitBlt plugin. Shouldn't this fix the issue, or is there another problem? Adrian On Dec 6, 2009, at 19:37 , Henrik Sperre Johansen wrote:
On 06.12.2009 15:28, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
Thanks, Marcus!
One step closer to 1.0.
Humm, better hope new VM versions are out before final release :) Without the BitBlt fixes, it looks kind of horrible when dragging a window...
Cheers, Henry
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http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1315 http://n4.nabble.com/Integer-overflow-with-BitBlt-rule-20-and-depth-32-td253... Fix added to VMMaker Nov. 2nd, so unless you have a plugin made after that, no. Cheers, Henry On 07.12.2009 22:11, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
Arg, now I see what you mean by dragging a window looks horrible... the whole text disappears.
I'm using a Mac 4.2.2beta1U VM with the extra BitBlt plugin. Shouldn't this fix the issue, or is there another problem?
Adrian
On Dec 6, 2009, at 19:37 , Henrik Sperre Johansen wrote:
On 06.12.2009 15:28, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
Thanks, Marcus!
One step closer to 1.0.
Humm, better hope new VM versions are out before final release :) Without the BitBlt fixes, it looks kind of horrible when dragging a window...
Cheers, Henry
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Thanks for the pointer. I've somehow missed this. Adrian On Dec 7, 2009, at 22:38 , Henrik Sperre Johansen wrote:
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1315
http://n4.nabble.com/Integer-overflow-with-BitBlt-rule-20-and-depth-32-td253...
Fix added to VMMaker Nov. 2nd, so unless you have a plugin made after that, no.
Cheers, Henry
On 07.12.2009 22:11, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
Arg, now I see what you mean by dragging a window looks horrible... the whole text disappears.
I'm using a Mac 4.2.2beta1U VM with the extra BitBlt plugin. Shouldn't this fix the issue, or is there another problem?
Adrian
On Dec 6, 2009, at 19:37 , Henrik Sperre Johansen wrote:
On 06.12.2009 15:28, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
Thanks, Marcus!
One step closer to 1.0.
Humm, better hope new VM versions are out before final release :) Without the BitBlt fixes, it looks kind of horrible when dragging a window...
Cheers, Henry
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On Sun, 6 Dec 2009, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
Thanks, Marcus!
One step closer to 1.0.
Damien, I suggest not to select FreeType font in the Pharo image anymore but keep the Bitmap DejaVu font that comes with the core image now. The bitmap font is not that perfect, but apparently the speed
Not that perfect? What's the problem with it? FreeType's anti-aliasing is crappy compared to BitmapDejaVu. Levente
differs enough. People that prefer the FreeType fonts can then easily switch if they like.
Adrian
On 06.12.2009 19:43, Levente Uzonyi wrote:
On Sun, 6 Dec 2009, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
Thanks, Marcus!
One step closer to 1.0.
Damien, I suggest not to select FreeType font in the Pharo image anymore but keep the Bitmap DejaVu font that comes with the core image now. The bitmap font is not that perfect, but apparently the speed
Not that perfect? What's the problem with it? FreeType's anti-aliasing is crappy compared to BitmapDejaVu.
Levente
In my experience, the character spacing can be a bit wonky in some cases. As well, the rendering method of FuzzyLabelMorphs, as used in some parts of Polymorph (most noticeably the Monticello browser), does not go well with them at all. Other than that, I agree with you that they look just as good. Cheers, Henry
On Dec 6, 2009, at 19:43 , Levente Uzonyi wrote:
On Sun, 6 Dec 2009, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
Thanks, Marcus!
One step closer to 1.0.
Damien, I suggest not to select FreeType font in the Pharo image anymore but keep the Bitmap DejaVu font that comes with the core image now. The bitmap font is not that perfect, but apparently the speed
Not that perfect? What's the problem with it?
E.g., colon and dot are so small that I sometimes think they are missing (do you see the dot on the first line in the attached png?). Character spacing is sometimes strange. Its not bad at all, but not perfect either.
FreeType's anti-aliasing is crappy compared to BitmapDejaVu.
What is crappy? Adrian
Levente
differs enough. People that prefer the FreeType fonts can then easily switch if they like.
Adrian
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Idézet (Adrian Lienhard <adi@netstyle.ch>):
On Dec 6, 2009, at 19:43 , Levente Uzonyi wrote:
On Sun, 6 Dec 2009, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
Thanks, Marcus!
One step closer to 1.0.
Damien, I suggest not to select FreeType font in the Pharo image anymore but keep the Bitmap DejaVu font that comes with the core image now. The bitmap font is not that perfect, but apparently the speed
Not that perfect? What's the problem with it?
E.g., colon and dot are so small that I sometimes think they are missing (do you see the dot on the first line in the attached png?). Character spacing is sometimes strange. Its not bad at all, but not perfect either.
I guess it depends on your monitor's pixel size, I see the dot clearly.
FreeType's anti-aliasing is crappy compared to BitmapDejaVu.
What is crappy?
Crappy = low quality. See the attached image. Levente
Adrian
It seems that with your setup the FreeType fonts are rendered without subpixel AA. I use the Mac VM, I think with the extra BitBlt plugin, and they look better. Adrian On Dec 6, 2009, at 21:10 , Levente Uzonyi wrote:
Idézet (Adrian Lienhard <adi@netstyle.ch>):
On Dec 6, 2009, at 19:43 , Levente Uzonyi wrote:
On Sun, 6 Dec 2009, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
Thanks, Marcus!
One step closer to 1.0.
Damien, I suggest not to select FreeType font in the Pharo image anymore but keep the Bitmap DejaVu font that comes with the core image now. The bitmap font is not that perfect, but apparently the speed
Not that perfect? What's the problem with it?
E.g., colon and dot are so small that I sometimes think they are missing (do you see the dot on the first line in the attached png?). Character spacing is sometimes strange. Its not bad at all, but not perfect either.
I guess it depends on your monitor's pixel size, I see the dot clearly.
FreeType's anti-aliasing is crappy compared to BitmapDejaVu.
What is crappy?
Crappy = low quality. See the attached image.
Levente
Adrian
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Ok, well I've not compiled the freetype plugin for V5.x yet, so whatever is happening it's not using freetype. Someone will need to decide if the bitblt override plugin should be part of the base system? There seems to be lots of confusion about what smalltalk software, which VM version, and if it's using an override BitBlt plugin. Maybe someone can detail the choices and decide which is the most optimum for Pharo. For testing purposes I *believe* you can run the V5.0 VM on powerpc, or on MacIntel set use 32bit mode in get info. Then included the plugins as shipped with the 4.2.2 VM. You still might need to confirm the 32bit FreeType plugin gets loaded. The V5.0 Vm has the latest bitblt changes from VMMaker, but that might be different than the ones in the older BitBlt override. On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Adrian Lienhard <adi@netstyle.ch> wrote:
It seems that with your setup the FreeType fonts are rendered without subpixel AA.
I use the Mac VM, I think with the extra BitBlt plugin, and they look better.
Adrian
On Dec 6, 2009, at 21:10 , Levente Uzonyi wrote:
Idézet (Adrian Lienhard <adi@netstyle.ch>):
On Dec 6, 2009, at 19:43 , Levente Uzonyi wrote:
On Sun, 6 Dec 2009, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
Thanks, Marcus!
One step closer to 1.0.
Damien, I suggest not to select FreeType font in the Pharo image anymore but keep the Bitmap DejaVu font that comes with the core image now. The bitmap font is not that perfect, but apparently the speed
Not that perfect? What's the problem with it?
E.g., colon and dot are so small that I sometimes think they are missing (do you see the dot on the first line in the attached png?). Character spacing is sometimes strange. Its not bad at all, but not perfect either.
I guess it depends on your monitor's pixel size, I see the dot clearly.
FreeType's anti-aliasing is crappy compared to BitmapDejaVu.
What is crappy?
Crappy = low quality. See the attached image.
Levente
Adrian
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Yes cleaning a bit would be good because with all these numbers and configurations this is not easy to follow. Stef On Dec 6, 2009, at 10:14 PM, John McIntosh wrote:
Ok, well I've not compiled the freetype plugin for V5.x yet, so whatever is happening it's not using freetype.
Someone will need to decide if the bitblt override plugin should be part of the base system?
There seems to be lots of confusion about what smalltalk software, which VM version, and if it's using an override BitBlt plugin. Maybe someone can detail the choices and decide which is the most optimum for Pharo.
For testing purposes I *believe* you can run the V5.0 VM on powerpc, or on MacIntel set use 32bit mode in get info. Then included the plugins as shipped with the 4.2.2 VM. You still might need to confirm the 32bit FreeType plugin gets loaded.
The V5.0 Vm has the latest bitblt changes from VMMaker, but that might be different than the ones in the older BitBlt override.
On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Adrian Lienhard <adi@netstyle.ch> wrote: It seems that with your setup the FreeType fonts are rendered without subpixel AA.
I use the Mac VM, I think with the extra BitBlt plugin, and they look better.
Adrian
On Dec 6, 2009, at 21:10 , Levente Uzonyi wrote:
Idézet (Adrian Lienhard <adi@netstyle.ch>):
On Dec 6, 2009, at 19:43 , Levente Uzonyi wrote:
On Sun, 6 Dec 2009, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
Thanks, Marcus!
One step closer to 1.0.
Damien, I suggest not to select FreeType font in the Pharo image anymore but keep the Bitmap DejaVu font that comes with the core image now. The bitmap font is not that perfect, but apparently the speed
Not that perfect? What's the problem with it?
E.g., colon and dot are so small that I sometimes think they are missing (do you see the dot on the first line in the attached png?). Character spacing is sometimes strange. Its not bad at all, but not perfect either.
I guess it depends on your monitor's pixel size, I see the dot clearly.
FreeType's anti-aliasing is crappy compared to BitmapDejaVu.
What is crappy?
Crappy = low quality. See the attached image.
Levente
Adrian
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On Sun, 6 Dec 2009, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
It seems that with your setup the FreeType fonts are rendered without subpixel AA.
Well, this is what's coming out of the box for windows users. I tried tweaking the preferences and got better results with HintingNormal instead of the default HintingLight. Btw the preferences for FreeType are broken, the Preference Browser shows the preferences as enabled even if you disable them. Opening a new Preference Browser shows the correct values. Levente
Out-of-the-box the Freetype looks ok on my Vista box, seems like your not getting the BitBltPlugin override (BitBltPlugin.dll FT"Plugin.dll and freetype6.dll at the least, maybe also msvcr71.dll). I haven't updated my windows VM for a while so perhaps the out-of-box is different these days! As for Preferences, they are like that (the "old" preference browser doesn't behave well with cross-dependent settings unless special care is taken). Regards, Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Levente Uzonyi" <leves@elte.hu> To: <Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 6:39 PM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [update] #10500
On Sun, 6 Dec 2009, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
It seems that with your setup the FreeType fonts are rendered without subpixel AA.
Well, this is what's coming out of the box for windows users. I tried tweaking the preferences and got better results with HintingNormal instead of the default HintingLight. Btw the preferences for FreeType are broken, the Preference Browser shows the preferences as enabled even if you disable them. Opening a new Preference Browser shows the correct values.
Levente
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On Mon, 7 Dec 2009, Gary Chambers wrote:
Out-of-the-box the Freetype looks ok on my Vista box, seems like your not getting the BitBltPlugin override (BitBltPlugin.dll FT"Plugin.dll and freetype6.dll at the least, maybe also msvcr71.dll). I haven't updated my windows VM for a while so perhaps the out-of-box is different these days!
The current pharo vm (PharoVM-Win32-3.11.4) does have FT2Plugin.dll, but the other dlls are not present. Levente
As for Preferences, they are like that (the "old" preference browser doesn't behave well with cross-dependent settings unless special care is taken).
Regards, Gary
On Mon, 7 Dec 2009, Gary Chambers wrote:
As for Preferences, they are like that (the "old" preference browser doesn't behave well with cross-dependent settings unless special care is taken).
This is in 1.0rc1 and there's no "new" stuff for preference browsing. Levente
Regards, Gary
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On Sun, 6 Dec 2009, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
It seems that with your setup the FreeType fonts are rendered without subpixel AA.
Well, this is what's coming out of the box for windows users. I tried tweaking the preferences and got better results with HintingNormal instead of the default HintingLight. Btw the preferences for FreeType are broken, the Preference Browser shows the preferences as enabled even if you disable them. Opening a new Preference Browser shows the correct values.
Levente
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Sure there is no new stuff this is the old preference mess :) This is why alain is working like a mad to fix that since 6 months. Stef
On Mon, 7 Dec 2009, Gary Chambers wrote:
As for Preferences, they are like that (the "old" preference browser doesn't behave well with cross-dependent settings unless special care is taken).
This is in 1.0rc1 and there's no "new" stuff for preference browsing.
Levente
Regards, Gary
----- Original Message ----- From: "Levente Uzonyi" <leves@elte.hu> To: <Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 6:39 PM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [update] #10500
On Sun, 6 Dec 2009, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
It seems that with your setup the FreeType fonts are rendered without subpixel AA.
Well, this is what's coming out of the box for windows users. I tried tweaking the preferences and got better results with HintingNormal instead of the default HintingLight. Btw the preferences for FreeType are broken, the Preference Browser shows the preferences as enabled even if you disable them. Opening a new Preference Browser shows the correct values.
Levente
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