Hi all, the Mellon foundation just approved the grant to Astea in Bulgaria to redevelop Sophie in Java! Astea (http://asteasolutions.com) are the nice guys that we trained and who then turned around, stating on their web site that they developed Sophie, took our Sophie documents and artwork for their proposal and managed to persuade Mellon to actually give them money... We moved the current Sophie project to http://opensophie.org, hoping to keep Sophie alive and making Sophie better than what they can come up with. And why I'm sending this to the Pharo list? Pharo already has so much promise as a base system, hopefully providing in the core already what we had to re-invent in Sophie because it didn't work in the main Squeak version. The Freetype stuff already turned out really well! Hopefully more to come. And once I finish these new etoys installers I can do some Pharo work too, hopefully ;-) Michael