----- Original Message ----- | From: "Andreas Wacknitz" <a.wacknitz@gmx.de> | | I hope you will be successful. I don't like programming web | interfaces because I am still not convinced that they are superior | to traditional GUI's. | Especially I don't like the mix of HMTL, JavaScript and CSS, even if | you can replace HTML by Smalltalk with Seaside. | And I also need to be convinced that Seaside is really such a big | thing. I haven't seen advanced GUI's in Seaside yet. | The examples I have seen in the Seaside book and the Seaside site are | all simplistic. | Maybe tODE will change my mind :D Thanks Andreas, For advanced Seaside apps, check out NeXTPLAN[1]... As for tODE, the framework/approach isn't directly tied to Seaside ... I think tODE could be done in Morphic, but a Morphic-based tODE wouldn't serve my needs. Not only does GemStone lack a native GUI, but the GLASS applications are running on machines in a server farm somewhere and native GUIs aren't very responsive over the WAN, whereas serving pages from a remote server can provide acceptable performance. I do agree that I seem to be working with an unholy mixture of HTML, Javascript, and CSS, but Seaside does help hide the ugliness of HTML and Javascript... Dale [1] http://www.slideshare.net/esug/next-planjohanbrichau