Re: [Pharo-dev] I need a windows user and a linux user to test

May 28, 2015


      but now there is a problem in glamour, because it is using Alt and not Ctrlâ¦ thatâs another problem, and has to be solved with another slice (bah, a configuration now) :)

Esteban
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On 28 May 2015, at 20:41, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
ok, I fixed the issueâ¦ should be showing âCtrlâ now, and not âAltâ.
Esteban
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On 28 May 2015, at 20:37, Franck Warlouzet <franck.warlouzet@hotmail.fr <mailto:franck.warlouzet@hotmail.fr>> wrote:
Yes ctrl is more usual to save, copy etc. alt seems to be used to manipulate windows.
After using emacs for years, I cannot be disturbed by strange shortcuts anyway
From: guillermopolito@gmail.com <mailto:guillermopolito@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 18:30:25 +0000
To: pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org>
Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] I need a windows user and a linux user to test
Always Ctrl. That's how usual application shortcuts work on windows and unix. Ctrl.
El jue., 28 de may. de 2015 a la(s) 8:28 p. m., Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>> escribiÃ³:
okâ¦ but we are using what?
alt or ctrl?
my question is: the menus should show (for example, to save the image):
Ctrl + Shift + S
or
Alt + Shift + S
and since we are there: What happens with linux?
Esteban
On 28 May 2015, at 20:25, Franck Warlouzet <franck.warlouzet@hotmail.fr <mailto:franck.warlouzet@hotmail.fr>> wrote:
It depends, ahah.
To copy/paste it is ctrl, but to quit a window it is alt F4, to switch between windows it is alt + tab ... 
But there is also a meta key, the windows key. With a mac keyboard for example, the cmd key does this meta key.
As a windows user it became an other language to know, there is no absolute rule for shortcuts
Franck
From: estebanlm@gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 20:16:49 +0200
To: nicolaihess@web.de <mailto:nicolaihess@web.de>; pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org>
Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] I need a windows user and a linux user to test
Iâm lost now. 
Which one is the âmetaâ key in windows? Alt or Ctrl?
Esteban
On 28 May 2015, at 20:04, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess@web.de <mailto:nicolaihess@web.de>> wrote:
2015-05-28 19:47 GMT+02:00 Franck Warlouzet <franck.warlouzet@hotmail.fr <mailto:franck.warlouzet@hotmail.fr>>:
I am a windows user and I noticed a couple of strange things :
- To open a transcript, or a browser or other, it is written alt + O + T, or B, or other, but it is ctrl + O + T, or B or other actually.
this changed just recently
15612 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?15612>
ToolShortcutsCategory has hard code shortcut.
(pharo 50071 (I asked Cyril to announce this change on the mailing list))
- Do it in a playground is alt + d or ctrl + d, but in Nautilus it is only alt + d (ctrl + d seems to go to the end of the text)
I will continue to find this kind of thing
Cheers,
Franck
From: estebanlm@gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 19:15:05 +0200
To: pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org>
Subject: [Pharo-dev] I need a windows user and a linux user to test
Hi,
I need win/linux users (and why not, other mac users than me) to test this issue:
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/15621 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/15621>
basically, it normalises all menu shortcut outputâ¦ in a long but clear way (and compatible with the platform).
cheers, 
Esteban