Well... I think I depart from the task. I rethinked my approach to programming languages, and concluded that at the very core concepts of the language, the Smalltalk is somewhat erratic in design. Yes it has a simplified conventions and syntax---but these don't matter much with regard to certain specific needs of programming---and I currently find that having overly flexible not very fundamental-minded interpretive semantics for if-then-else (as a random example) is counterproductive and flawed, since it gives an incorrect structure of the system. That's just an opinion---but yes, Smalltalk is an important step to the languages of the future. Best wishes to you all, Evgeniy P.S. Unsubscribing from this place of flowering of life :) Please reply privately, I am not at the list anymore. On 03/09/10 18:20, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Hi evgeniy
We would love to see any progress in the direction of having feenestri working for Pharo now we do not have simply the task forces. So if you do any changes in the system to help you in this task send the patches and changes so that life is easier for you and we can get this done in the future.
Stef
On Sep 3, 2010, at 8:15 AM, Evgeniy Philippov wrote:
Hello folks and Todd Blanchard,
I have three questions. First question is---what is the current status of Ffenestri, and where can I download some version of Pharo with the most up-to-date Ffenestri support? The second question is---what are the other Pharo OS-level windowing interfaces, and what is their status? And the last question is---what is more complete: Squeak's Ffenestri support, or Pharo's Ffenestri support?
My intents. I plan to use some version of Squeak or Pharo system for my project (which is a hobby project), and I am mainly interested in OS-level windowing for Linux (Ubuntu) and to a lesser extent for Win32 too. I studied wxSqueak a bit, and concluded that Ffenestri is overall simpler to develop than wxSqueak, and guessed that Ffenestri moves/will move faster when considering the completeness of it, than wxSqueak.
-- Evgeniy
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