There are three parts to your question (a) Does the VM you want to use support Ffenestri, you will need to look at the source code on squeakvm.org SVN tree to understand the answer to that. That would be if the HostWindowPlugin is supported. (b) Does the Smalltalk code allow you to call the HostWindowPlugin api? (c) Does the event loop logic in the Smalltalk code support the following incoming event types. #define WindowEventMetricChange 1 /* size or position of window changed - value1-4 are left/top/right/bottom values */ #define WindowEventClose 2 /* window close icon pressed */ #define WindowEventIconise 3 /* window iconised or hidden etc */ #define WindowEventActivated 4 /* window made active - some platforms only - do not rely upon this */ #define WindowEventPaint 5 /* window area (in value1-4) needs updating. Some platforms do not need to send this, do not rely on it in image */ #define WindowEventStinks 6 /* this window stinks (just to see if people read this stuff) */ In general people want multiple window support right up to the point where they have to implement the GUI part, then they lose interest & bail... Macintosh Carbon VMs 4.2.x and lower support Ffenestri at the VM level, Cocoa VMs 5.x have not been tested due to lack of interest. I've heard that Windows and Unix versions may or may not support them, see (a). On 2010-09-02, at 11:15 PM, Evgeniy Philippov wrote:

Hello folks and Todd Blanchard,

I have three questions. First question is---what is the current status of Ffenestri, and where can I download some version of Pharo with the most up-to-date Ffenestri support? The second question is---what are the other Pharo OS-level windowing interfaces, and what is their status? And the last question is---what is more complete: Squeak's Ffenestri support, or Pharo's Ffenestri support?

My intents. I plan to use some version of Squeak or Pharo system for my project (which is a hobby project), and I am mainly interested in OS-level windowing for Linux (Ubuntu) and to a lesser extent for Win32 too. I studied wxSqueak a bit, and concluded that Ffenestri is overall simpler to develop than wxSqueak, and guessed that Ffenestri moves/will move faster when considering the completeness of it, than wxSqueak.

-- Evgeniy

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