On 16 Mar 2015, at 10:38, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess@web.de> wrote:
2015-03-16 10:00 GMT+01:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven@stfx.eu>: I *really* do not understand why people make such a fuss about this.
it is not about me, I can live with that. What I don't want are extensive discussion after the release: "Why did you remove the Workspace"
I know. It is like someone said before: if we don't have anything new, why release a new version at all ?
If you open a Playground and never do 'Do it and go', but instead keep on using 'Do it' and 'Inspect it', the second pane never opens and there is hardly any difference. You can keep using it as a notebook.
But you do get the much nicer 'Print it' and so many other things.
It took me some getting used to as well, but now I hardly notice the difference.
On 16 Mar 2015, at 08:31, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Why sorry?
Doru
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Norbert Hartl <norbert@hartl.name> wrote:
Am 15.03.2015 um 22:35 schrieb stepharo <stepharo@free.fr>:
That is great. And you even have a solution for your problem. Both of these will remain in the image for Pharo 4, so that solution will work.
However, the menu is also the entry point for newcomers. We should not bombard them with choices that distract them from their goal of experiencing Pharo.
Yes so please fix the tab label :)
+1 (sorry, Doru :) )
Cheers, Doru
On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 10:20 PM, phil@highoctane.be <phil@highoctane.be> wrote: My usage pattern is not that.
I have GTPlayground disabled in the settings and GTInspector enabled (Pharo3 here).
And I've made a keybinding to open the playground. And use Alt-o Alt-w for getting a workspace.
So, I do use both. And not "one or the other".
Phil
On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 9:19 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Hi,
The Workspace is in the image. The only discussion is about the title of the menu item.
When the Playground is enabled, the menu should show Playground instead of Workspace. And when the Workspace is enabled, it should show Workspace. The slice in this direction is on my to do list.
Cheers, Doru
On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 7:52 PM, phil@highoctane.be <phil@highoctane.be> wrote:
On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 7:03 PM, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess@web.de> wrote:
Although it is difficult to find a agreement for this, I suggest to add a menu entry "Playground" and reuse the entry "Workspace" for the old workspace.
Soon we will have a new Pharo release. And I am afraid there will be some complaining like this: (Only on Workspace menu item that opens GTPlayground) -> "Hey where is my workspace?"
But instead I would like a Workspace menu item opens Workspace / Playground opens GTPlayground: and the feedback: -> "Hey, GTPlayground is so cool"
what do you think?
I think that this is the way I want things to be in Pharo4.
If we get the Playground only, I want a way to get the workspace as a loadable configuration.
Phil
nicolai
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