I think that 300 years of enslavement by the Ottoman Empire gave us (as a nation) a pretty good idea , plus the Great Fire of Smyrna, plus Nazi occupation etc. You assume too much. I was talking about Pharo by the way, not politics. On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 1:32 PM Hernán Morales Durand < hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
2017-04-21 5:10 GMT-03:00 Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios@gmail.com>:
Resistance is futile
You know what amazes me about this discussion ?
The one thing that I find amazing is that we have like 58 messages already , many of them complain about the dark theme and not one even bothered posting a single screenshot demonstration all these "problems" , just one . How hard it is to trigger a shortcut to capture an image so we who love the dark theme can see why some people find it hard to use.
And this is why I feel lucky that the deed is done and this is no democracy.... very happy indeed :)
You don't have ANY idea of how is to live without democracy.
Cheers,
Hernán
On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 8:48 PM Ben Coman <btc@openinworld.com> wrote:
I see in 60467 that the deed is done. Okay, so moving forward... be prepared ;) for a surge of feedback as a bunch of us dark-theme-newbies start using it in earnest. I understand those that been using it a while already are obviously happy with how its tuned, and probably not many things can be accommodated, but there is one thing...
Maybe its that its 1AM, or its my astigmatism, but my first impression was a shock at the high contrast pure-white-on-black text - for the World Menu and System Browser - to the degree that my eyes felt crosseyed. Particularly the title-bar-text was jarring. Dimming it slightly made it *much* easier to focus. Could dark-theme-connoisseurs try this out...
Pharo3DarkTheme>>textColor ^ Color veryLightGray lighter
And wow! That very bright green in TestRunner hurts.
Other than that, so far it looks cool.
cheers -ben
On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 3:19 AM, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:
For the mooc we have normally an image: it is called Pharo 50.
S.
On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 3:34 PM, Mark Bestley <news{@bestley.co.uk> wrote:
Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
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Not before IMMEDIATELY realizing that all screenshots containing the white theme are outdated and will IMMEDIATELY prefer the dark ones that
will
have an updated view of the Pharo GUI compared to a screenshot that has the white theme and it's outdated by two or more years.
No they will think it is for a different environment and waste time looking for a match.
A beginner won't see that just that they cannot get the same answer as the mooc or documentation.
They will look for a language where the documentation matches what they get as they don't know if the documentation or their code is wrong. (and probably cast aspersions on the quality of what they are using)
Updating the screenshots for PBE5 was a big pain and I am sure there are ones that are left that are still outdated showing 1.4 , which is at least 6 years old.
-- Mark