On 21 February 2012 02:40, Guido Stepken <gstepken@googlemail.com> wrote:
I predicted it!
Predicted what? That you will repeat same things which you said half year ago? Again, Guido, why you think you are the only one who knows about issues on which you constantly pointing out? I knew about this stuff long ago (in 2007), when i first met squeak. Pharo didn't even existed at that time. Now you think that all bad things are magically disappear/get fixed once magnificient Guido will point on them? I don't want to disappoint you, but some things on the landscape tend to change slower than you expect.
http://forum.world.st/Hanging-connects-exhausted-resources-memory-leaks-bock...
You want me as experienced software architect and project manager predict more about Pharo's future (or doom), or are you willing to listen and learn?
You will debug Pharo/Squeak until your 90 years old, because you (the Pharo team) is not able to address bugs systematically. This is fact!
Look e.g. at LUAJit. Stable, used by estimated 10 mio users of WORLD OF WARCRAFT, Wikipedia, portable, rockstable.
Pharo???? Unstable, nobody uses it, academic brainfuck. And Dr. Geo will soon be implemented in JavaScript, i think, the better solution, other apps will disappear soon, like CMSBOX, ... doom!
My prediction, if you don't develop the development process any further!!!
tnx 4 understanding,
Guido Stepken
Am 21.02.2012 01:10 schrieb "Igor Stasenko" <siguctua@gmail.com>:
On 20 February 2012 23:55, Nicolas Cellier <nicolas.cellier.aka.nice@gmail.com> wrote:
Le 20 février 2012 23:06, Guido Stepken <gstepken@googlemail.com> a écrit :
Am 20.02.2012 21:30, schrieb Nicolas Cellier:
What, what, the right development process wouldn't solve such a trivial problem ? Guido, try to inspect yourself with all your introspection tools and development process know how, because I have the feeling that despite the many answers you got, you still face a message not understood problem ;)
Nicolas
Nicolas, i *know*, there must be a solution! Cannot be, that i klick into a menu and *directly* run into error messages.
Think!
Develop the development process! Don't argue!
tnx, Guido Stepken
Guido, you take a bug in a hacked Cuis image to demonstrate that Pharo development process is wrong... So how could I possibly argue if you don't use logic.
Because it is much easier to keep saying "you're wrong/you doing it wrong" than do anything towards fixing it by yourself.
That's a pity, because for once we had something pretty close to a true bug report... but the bug doesn't even show in a Cuis image, I just took my not so precious time to check.
That doesn't matter because I have no doubt that you are not interested at all in bug reporting/fixing. When I unwind your long stack of message sends, I see the same good political slogan, develop the development process. Well very nice, you found yourself initiated with higher level functions, but beware, in Haskell like in Guido, there is no way to detect an infinite recursion, even if we seriously suspect one.
Can't wait till Guido will start learning quantum mechanics. I can hear his "you doing it wrong" echoing from future :)
Nicolas
-- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.
-- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.