Guys would it not be cool for each week we pick a different language for the pharo list? I would really like to brush up on my French....and we are very diverse in our group. I think this would have two benefits. 1) we would talk less and write more code 2) we would permanently have our tounge inserted in our cheek. ;-) cheers mike On Tuesday, July 7, 2009, Miguel Cobá <miguel.coba@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Keith Hodges<keith_hodges@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Keith Hodges wrote:
so I'm laughing when people suggest that we are predators.
I am still counting your contributions back to the packages which you are using, which are public domain, and have public repositories...
answer zero
Its not even a technical issue, you have chosen a philosophically predatory stance from the outset.
"We will make our own image, without any concern for giving back to those who made it possible" The number of times I have heard, we are changing this that or the other, and if you want the improvement "you can port it if you want to", completely illustrates my point.
Those who made the contributions that you are using probably expected that any improvements to their efforts would be fed back to them in a form that they could make use of.
This is a priori discarded because of the MIT license. If you don't want this kind of behavior, the GPL/LGPL licenses exists for this very exact situation. With MIT you can't force retributions back.
It is the main reason for companies to make their code open source, because they anticipate some reciprocation from those who benefit, and thus the benefit is mutual, and might offset the considerable cost of development.
I don't think so. And when they do so, the choose other license. Take the Java case. It is not MIT, but GPL. This is so that MS, IBM and other can't run away with the code with giving back. Again, the license establish the rights and obligations of the receiving party.
And in case you are wondering, the public repository for the community to work towards improving SUnit, Â ( squeaksource/Testing ) does include
#assert:equals:
Keith
Miguel Cobá
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