maybe Pharo would have change that ? I don't know if we can blame people from beeing scared by squeak ;) I really think this is important Sophie continue to evolve to show Java is not the way to go. After seaside, this could be the second main ST project developped with it... My 2 cents. Cédrick 2008/9/24 Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr>:
this is not the way politics works. Apparently the founder was ready to found anything but squeak. Strange no.
Stef
On Sep 23, 2008, at 10:13 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote:
Hmm, maybe before blaming people, you should make some moments clear?
For reading from their site http://asteasolutions.com/ --- Sophie has received key support from The Andrew W. Mellon Foundation (http://www.mellon.org/). The Institute for the Future of the Book designs and develops the tools and philosophy that will guide the form and function of books as they evolve from the print-based format to a digital format. Developed by Astea in collaboration with Impara GmbH (http://www.impara.de/) of Magdeburg, Germany, and a team of the world's leading Squeak experts, Sophie is the Institute's premiere effort. ---
They have a references to origin, and maybe a point of misunderstanding that they not clearly stating their goals? I see nothing bad, if they like to adopt original idea using Java - it is their own problem, after all.
And before starting a war/conflict, try to resolve it peacefully - ask them to rename the project, and ask to keep referencing to origin.
-- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.
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