It is not sarcasm or a race. I was just pointing out the (obvious) fact that there is a huge difference in scale. (And even then, Pharo, being the most successful Smalltalk, is pretty small). And I was saying so in the context of the questions 'What should we promote ?' or 'Was it actually good or a success to have that mentioned in InfoWorld ?'. Now I am going back to work on Pharo.
On 15 Jan 2015, at 16:59, Sebastian Sastre <sebastian@flowingconcept.com> wrote:
Well.. Iâve cared to talk with James before making this kind of assumptions or listening that sarcasm.
Those 20 commits are in the stable repo, not dev so the commit race doesnât say much.
Itâs not ready to big time promotion but turns out Redline Smalltalk development is doing fine in moving towards 1.0 and its plans of having one release per year.
On Jan 15, 2015, at 1:06 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven@stfx.eu> wrote:
Yes, it is very alive: 20 commits in year or so.
Pharo 4 has about 1700 in about the same time (https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core). And that is just one silly, inaccurate metric.
My point is, there are a couple of great Smalltalk implementations that contain an incredible number of man-years of effort in their images (the best being Pharo of course, but I am biased ;-), we can only achieve a high quality platform by working together. The number of different competences needed to successfully build a *COMPLETE* software platform can *NEVER* be achieved by 'a couple of guys' let alone one individual.
Now, it is not that they can not do so, of course they can, we need wild and crazy ideas and research, but it is just wrong to see such experiments as what should be promoted now.
IMHO, of course.
On 15 Jan 2015, at 15:19, horrido <horrido.hobbies@gmail.com> wrote:
Actually, Redline is quite alive. There's a brand new repo: https://github.com/jamesladd/stc <https://github.com/jamesladd/stc>
James just hasn't gotten around to normalizing all the links at his website.
Sven Van Caekenberghe-2 wrote
A blank.
Nothing happened to this project in more than a year
https://github.com/redline-smalltalk/redline-smalltalk/commits/master
It is mostly vapourware and has no users.
People following the links on the article will soon find out.
Just sad.
On 14 Jan 2015, at 23:40, horrido <
horrido.hobbies@
> wrote:
http://www.infoworld.com/article/2867543/java/redline-smalltalk-bridging-sma... <http://www.infoworld.com/article/2867543/java/redline-smalltalk-bridging-sma...;
Note the last paragraph. Our campaign will be noticed!
This is exactly what I was after when I started the SRP. Spread the word about the campaign as far and wide as I could.
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