Hi what I like with conferences like ESUG is that we can meet other people. We got some great discussions with Doru and Norbert about logging. And we will unite the two frameworks into a a variation of Beacon. Thinking about it, I clearly overreacted when Doru announced Beacon and I'm clear with it. I'm not an easy guy from that perspective but I have no problem to try to understand and recognize other ideas. I think that this is partly the effect of mail communication. Retrospectively I was so into wanted to remove all these strings from everywhere that I received Beacon (which at the end was trying to help defining a cool logger) as a sign that I lost my energy on building SystemLogger. Now I think that if I would not have built SystemLogger, we would not have got Beacon and our discussions would have been way poorer. So we will start to migrate some of the SystemLogger code to Beacon, rename some Beacon class, and write a new documentation and integrate all that into Pharo. Stef