Much truth in what you say. However, what Oracle choose to invest its money, time, personnel resource into Java does affect its present and future. It has a great affect. But it isn't the whole story. Java has enough momentum in what already exists in the language and vm and what has been release under its license, for businesses to keep going for some time with only what currently exists. The nice part about the Pharo story is this, as Stef says: Pharo is yours. What Pharo is and becomes is up to us, the community. Not what any major corporation says it is or is not going to do. Pharo is what we make it to be. Pharo will become what we make it to become. It is nice to have organizations and corporations as part of the community, such as INRIA, etc. They offer substantial resources and are a blessing. And the nice thing is that Pharo does not need an Oracle size corporation to keep it going and viable. Can Java say that? Time will tell. Could Java have gotten to where it is without it? As you say, let's keep Pharo going so that it can empower the little guy or smaller business. :) Shalom. Jimmie On 11/25/2015 04:29 AM, Dimitris Chloupis wrote:
Clickbait ! ClickBAIT !!!!!
Let me remind you that bloggers have been declaring Java dead for over a decade now. Java still goes strong and is the undisputed king of Enterprise coding no other language can even remotely touch it, mainly because of its huge powerful library made for big businesses. Pharo cannot compete with Java, it does not have the resources to, right now the only true competitor to java is C# and even C# though backed by Micro$oft , still it lags very much behind it in terms of popularity. Let me also remind you that Java is the language that mutilated the then undisputed king of of programming languages C++ stealing away tons of its coders. Probably the biggest migration of coders ever.
Only fools underestimate Java.
Java is big, Java is ugly, Java is powerful and Java is here to stay for a long, long time.
My advice to Pharo, keep doing what you know best, helping lone coders and small teams compete with large companies in terms of productivity. Dont compete, innovate.
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 12:03 PM S Krish <krishnamachari.sudhakar@gmail.com <mailto:krishnamachari.sudhakar@gmail.com>> wrote:
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/The email, sent to InfoWorld on Tuesday by a former high-ranking Java official, claimed to feature details from inside Oracle. It said the company was becoming a cloud company, competing with Salesforce, and âJava has no interest to them anymore.â The subject line cited âJava â planned obsolescence.â/
/Oracle is not interested in empowering its competitors and doesnât want to share innovation, the email further alleges. The company is slimming down Java EE (Enterprise Edition), but it also doesnât want anyone else to work on Java or Java EE and is sidelining the JCP (Java Community Process). âThey have a winner-take-all mentality and they are not interested in collaborating,â said the email. âProprietary product work will be done on WebLogic, and thereâll be a proprietary microservices platform.â WebLogic is the Java application server Oracle acquired when it bought BEA Systems in 2008./
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