Possibly, a one-click image could lighten the initial cognitive load to start using Pharo, but being a begginer do not should imply he must download a specific version, to be careful in this sense means recommend and not impose. One can be a begginer in Pharo but not in Smalltalk, or a begginer with an exploratory mentality, and this exploration could be directed by specific interests (business, research, etc), so I can be a begginer in Pharo and want to see alternatives in the first place. Anyway, I've updated the page http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/Downloads?tm=2 Best regards Hernán 2009/2/8 Michael Rueger <m.rueger@acm.org>
wouldn't most of the problems fixed by pointing beginners to the one click version of Pharo?
Michael
On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Hernán Morales Durand <hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
Let's suppose I'm a first visitor reading this page:
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/Downloads?tm=2
" ... A link is given below to get the image ... " There are various links below, specifically what is that link? (Suggestion: anchor the link word)
" ... You can either upgrade your image ... " Any hint or link explaining how?
" ... The virtual machine may be downloaded from ... " Suggestion: " ... The virtual machine [for the X Operating System] may be downloaded from ... " and then "The virtual machine [for the Y Operating System] may be downloaded from ... "
" ... The lastest VM available ... " " ... The latest VM available ... " (typo)
" Pharo files are still hosted at the Pharo INRIA project site. " From an user point of view I don't know why that would be relevant.
" Please head over to http://gforge.inria.fr/frs/?group_id=1299 " To get the image ? the image and VM ? to choose downloading options ? (what I mean is that isn't clear the "image" reference at the beggining of page refers to this link or the "specific files" link below).
" Here are some links to specific files: Pharo Core: Pharo0.1Core-10204.zip " Suggestion: " If you want to do/have/use X, you can download Pharo Core... " " If you want to do/have/use Y, you can download Pharo Developer... " etc.
Final notes: -There is no "Installation instructions" guidelines or link, this commonly is: "When download is completed, uncompress.... get a mysterious .sources file, and then copy the .exe there......" -Still remain assumptions for a first visitor, like he already knows what is an image, a virtual machine. Many first visitors are outsiders and they download first, read later (show me don't tell me). My suggestion is to provide a link/page in key words "image", "virtual machine", I guess there are many sites where this is explained easily; and a reference link, to the SqueakByExample book for example, for people who wants to read more. Just a couple of suggestions.
Cheers
Hernán
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