Yes ctrl is more usual to save, copy etc. alt seems to be used to manipulate windows. After using emacs for years, I cannot be disturbed by strange shortcuts anyway From: guillermopolito@gmail.com Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 18:30:25 +0000 To: pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] I need a windows user and a linux user to test Always Ctrl. That's how usual application shortcuts work on windows and unix. Ctrl. El jue., 28 de may. de 2015 a la(s) 8:28 p. m., Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> escribió: ok⦠but we are using what?alt or ctrl?my question is: the menus should show (for example, to save the image): Ctrl + Shift + S or Alt + Shift + S and since we are there: What happens with linux? Esteban On 28 May 2015, at 20:25, Franck Warlouzet <franck.warlouzet@hotmail.fr> wrote: It depends, ahah. To copy/paste it is ctrl, but to quit a window it is alt F4, to switch between windows it is alt + tab ... But there is also a meta key, the windows key. With a mac keyboard for example, the cmd key does this meta key. As a windows user it became an other language to know, there is no absolute rule for shortcuts Franck From: estebanlm@gmail.com Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 20:16:49 +0200 To: nicolaihess@web.de; pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] I need a windows user and a linux user to test Iâm lost now. Which one is the âmetaâ key in windows? Alt or Ctrl? Esteban On 28 May 2015, at 20:04, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess@web.de> wrote: 2015-05-28 19:47 GMT+02:00 Franck Warlouzet <franck.warlouzet@hotmail.fr>: I am a windows user and I noticed a couple of strange things : - To open a transcript, or a browser or other, it is written alt + O + T, or B, or other, but it is ctrl + O + T, or B or other actually. this changed just recently 15612ToolShortcutsCategory has hard code shortcut. (pharo 50071 (I asked Cyril to announce this change on the mailing list)) - Do it in a playground is alt + d or ctrl + d, but in Nautilus it is only alt + d (ctrl + d seems to go to the end of the text) I will continue to find this kind of thing Cheers, Franck From: estebanlm@gmail.com Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 19:15:05 +0200 To: pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org Subject: [Pharo-dev] I need a windows user and a linux user to test Hi, I need win/linux users (and why not, other mac users than me) to test this issue: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/15621 basically, it normalises all menu shortcut output⦠in a long but clear way (and compatible with the platform). cheers, Esteban