Stef, I don't dispute it, but what is this about Croquet being dead? Bill -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Stéphane Ducasse Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 2:22 AM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr; lenglish5@cox.net Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Sideways marketing of pharo, seaside, etc. On Aug 12, 2009, at 2:39 AM, Lawson English wrote:
Hey all, I'm in one of my manic brainstorming moods and whilest I'm working on a baby interface between Second Life and Squeak, it dawns on me that there is a huge potential for evangelicalism on your part here: One of hte myriad complains Second LIfe power users have is that the build-in programming tools are extremely limited. There are numerous options for plugins as with Eclipse and emacs (I believe) but they all run as standalone tools with no easy integration with the 3D virtual world experience, which is hte main reason why people bother to script things in SL in the first place: they have interactive feedback with potentialky thousands of other people.
The point being that seaside runs just fine on localhost and the builtin SL browser works just fine with everything seaside I have tested.
what do you mean by the previous sentence?
If someone wanted to entice potentially 100,000 Second LIfe users to install seaside, implementing a nice LSL scripting interface in a seaside webpage, complete with syntax coloring, databases of scripts, version control, etc etc, would go a long way toards convincing the Second Life powerusers, at least, that seaside is a worthwhile install.
If/when I get my interface to the client-server packets proxy working, one could see potential for many more elaborate uses for squeak/ seaside and Second LIfe.
Keep us informed it looks exciting.
(interop between SL and Cobalt/Croquet is left as an exercise for the reader ;-))
I thought Croquet was dead as an open-source project.
Anyway, if someone with a talent for writing editor code wanted to look at the existing external LSL scripting editors and port something to squeak for use on a webpage in seaside, I can almost promise you that squeak/seaside useage would go up by a huge, HUGE factor. Such a project is beyond me, personally due to my lack of formal education, etc., but it should be a worthy project for anyone wishing to promote seaside/smalltalk use.
May be this is a nice job for helvetia. Lukas? mixing SL in Smalltalk :)
Feel free to ask any questions, privately if appropriate.
Lawson English LEnglish5 (at) cox [dot] net Saijanai Kuhn in Second Life
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