-----Message d'origine----- De : Pharo-dev [mailto:pharo-dev-bounces@lists.pharo.org] De la part de Ben Coman Envoyé : lundi 17 août 2015 15:52 à : Pharo Development List Objet : [Pharo-dev] World Menu associated mouse click
A while back on reddit someone complained about the World Menu being associated with left-mouse-click. I have come to agree. The World Menu provides the actions available in the context of the World, i.e. the World's context-menu - but its not invoked by the usual convention for context menus, which is the right-mouse-click.
By way of example, in a fresh image and open one Playground.
* First right-click the Playground. Up comes the Playground's context-menu as expected per industry wide conventions.
* Then right-click the background. Doh! Its not consistent, thats not the World's context-menu. "WTH is that?" says a newbie in surprise. (Btw, who uses that list of open windows ? I *never* do and might suggest that function be moved to a meta-mouse-click.)
So can we discuss changing the World Menu to be invoked by the context-click (i.e. right-click) ?
cheers -ben
2015-08-17 16:07 GMT+02:00 Blondeau Vincent <vincent.blondeau@worldline.com>:
There is a setting to have this consistence (deactivated by default): Appearance>Desktop>Invert right click on world menu in Linux and Windows
By the way, the buttons are not inverted under Mac (conventional).
I agree that the context click should open the world menu by default..
On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 4:14 PM, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess@web.de> wrote:
+1
On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 7:19 PM Peter Uhnák <i.uhnak@gmail.com> wrote:
Btw in Bloc this has already been changed.
On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 9:15 PM, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
If you are not ready to get out of your comfort zone , you wont be using Smalltalk. Sure change it to left click, but in the end it wont make much of a difference. Smalltalk is for a specific kind of people that are looking for a fresh approach to coding. For everyone else there is like a ton of languages that recycle old recipes and keep things familiar.
On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 5:39 AM, Peter Uhnák <i.uhnak@gmail.com> wrote:
importantly there's difference between "keeping things familiar with the universe (other OS/langs/...)" and "being internally consistent" (every menu except for the world menu is opened with right/yellow button).
On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 3:15 AM, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
If you are not ready to get out of your comfort zone , you wont be using Smalltalk. Sure change it to left click, but in the end it wont make much of a difference. Smalltalk is for a specific kind of people that are looking for a fresh approach to coding. For everyone else there is like a ton of languages that recycle old recipes and keep things familiar.
Of course I subscribe to the view of our uniqueness :) - but its not sufficient as the only argument. We should not be complacent to use that as a crutch to keep things the way they have always been because that is "our" comfort zone. cheers -ben