+1 ________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Mariano Martinez Peck Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 2:58 PM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Senders and implementors WAS: Pharo apparently slow on linux On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Adrian Lienhard <adi@netstyle.ch<mailto:adi@netstyle.ch>> wrote: On Jul 19, 2009, at 20:14 , Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
Documentation is certainly a good thing, but I have been trying to adapt my behavior to take advantage of these shortcuts, and I notice two things: (1) deciding between m/n takes _some_ thought; (2) it is common to be using the mouse to move around among browsers and a workspace or two, at which point I have to move to the keyboard, think up the selector, and then get the benefit.
In an ideal world, I would like to see the menus include these commands.
But they are included in the menu -- just not at the top level (see my previous mail). If we start to add more stuff at the top ('tally it' and 'watch it' are already questionable in my opinion), then we end up again with unusable menus like those of Squeak. Yes, you are right and no one of us want that. I only think implementors and senders were used far more than the others like "tall it", "watch it", etc Adrian
Bill
-----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr> [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr> ] On Behalf Of Adrian Lienhard Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 1:08 PM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Senders and implementors WAS: Pharo apparently slow on linux
On Jul 19, 2009, at 20:05 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou@gmail.com<mailto:damien.cassou@gmail.com>
wrote:
2009/7/18 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck@gmail.com<mailto:marianopeck@gmail.com>>:
I don't know you what I use senders and implementors everytime. Too frecuently. Frecuently enought so that to put them in the first menu and not insidethe "extended search". Don't you rather them to be in the first menu ??
Why don't you use keyboard shortcuts if you use them often? ALT+m (iMplementors) ALT+n (seNders)
I do that. But I was not thinking in me, but in newbies.
I think it would be better to document these shortcuts (e.g., as a FAQ) instead of cluttering the menus.
Adrian
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