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Re: [Pharo-project] Comparison of Aida/Web, Seaside and Iliad web frameworks

by Sean P. DeNigris

Thanks Janko, I've been wondering what the important differences were. Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Comparison-of-Aida-Web-Seaside-and-Iliad-web-framewor… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

June 22, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] #assert:equals: feels backwards

by Sean P. DeNigris

Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > I don't understand Sean's problem. > Still using 1.2.2 :) Thanks for fixing it. Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/assert-equals-feels-backwards-tp3614760p3615548.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

June 22, 2011

[Pharo-project] Smalltalks 2011 --- Call for papers

by Andres Valloud

CALL FOR PAPERS SMALLTALKS 2011 5th International Conference on Smalltalk Technologies Research Track: Call for Papers November 3th - 5th, 2011 Important dates: Submission (Hard Deadline): August 22th, 2011 (Argentinian time: UTC/GMT -3 hours). Notification of acceptance: September 23th, 2011. Camera Ready Submission: October 7th, 2011. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Conference Location: Universidad Nacional de Quilmes (Argentina) The Smalltalks series of conferences (www.fast.org.ar) is a lively forum on Smalltalk-based software technologies that brings together more than 200 people from both academia and industry for a period of three days. Past editions of Smalltalks have included many high-quality presentations from industry and research. These contributions have shown interesting applications of Smalltalk, advances in the Smalltalk language, didactic uses of Smalltalk and so on. Similar to last year, Smalltalks 2011 will include a dedicated research track. We welcome submissions to this research track presenting original scientific contributions to, or using, Smalltalk in general. Topics of interest include, but are not restricted to: - Aspects, Aspect Languages and Applications. - Ambient Intelligence, Ubiquitous / Pervasive Computing and Embedded Systems. - Compilation Technology, Optimization, Virtual Machines. - Educational Material. - Language Engineering, Extensions. - Model Driven Engineering / Development. - Meta-Modeling, Reflection and Meta-programming. - Programming in the Large, Design, Architectures and Components. - Programming Environments, Browsers, User Interfaces, UI Frameworks. - Source-code analysis and manipulation (Static analysis, refactoring, type inference, metrics). - Team Management. - Testing, Extreme Programming / Practices. - Web Services, Internet Applications, Event-driven Programming. - Experience Reports. Important dates: Submission (Hard Deadline): August 22th, 2011 (Argentinian time: UTC/GMT -3 hours). Notification of acceptance: September 23th, 2011. Camera Ready Submission: October 7th, 2011. Papers: Papers should be written in English, in PDF-format and should not exceed 15 pages (including references and figures), using the Elsevier journal format. Templates for LaTeX formats can be found at http://www.elsevier.com/wps/find/authorsview.authors/elsart Papers must be submitted through the EasyChair submission web site at https://www.easychair.org/conferences/?conf=smalltalks2011 The accepted papers will be digitally available on the conference website. We are currently negotiating a special edition of a journal for which the best papers will get invited. Papers submitted must not have been previously published and must not be under review for publication elsewhere. Papers must strictly adhere to submission guidelines. If you have questions, please send an e-mail to Jannik Laval and Andy Kellens to smalltalks2011-chair(a)fast.org.ar. Program Committee -------------------------- - Gonzalo Zabala (Universidad Abierta Interamericana, Argentina) - Hernan Wilkinson (Universidad de Buenos Aires, Argentina) - Serge Stinckwich (Institut de recherche pour le developppement, France) - Mircea Lungu (University of Bern, Switzerland) - Tudor Girba (Sw-eng. Software Engineering GmbH, Switzerland) - Johan Fabry (DCC, Universidad de Chile, Chile) - Luc Fabresse (Ecole des Mines Douai, France) - Marcus Denker (INRIA Lille, France) - Coen De Roover (Vrije Universiteit Brussel, Belgium) - Damien Cassou (Hasso-Plattner-Institut, Potsdam, Germany) - Gilad Bracha (SAP Labs, Palo Alto, USA) - Noury Bouraqadi (Ecole des Mines Douai, France) - Alexandre Bergel (DCC, Universidad de Chile, Chile) - Gabriela Arevalo (Universidad Nacional de Quilmes, Argentina) Program Chairs -------------------- Andy Kellens (Vrije Universiteit Brussel, Belgium) Jannik Laval (INRIA Lille/LABRI Bordeaux, France)

June 22, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] #assert:equals: feels backwards

by Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras

there's no problem. you (Mariano) fixed it. i think you misunderstood Sean's mail. On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck < marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 10:32 PM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras < > vonbecmann(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> did you check this >> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4129 >> ? >> > > Yes, I was the gulty. But I am still on favor. So I don't undersatnd Sean's > problem. > > >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com>wrote: >> >>> In my unit test, I want to make sure that my output equals the >>> expectedOutput, but: >>> TestCase>>assert: expected equals: actual >>> >>> It feels wrong to me. It seems that I want to make an assertion about my >>> class's behavior and I would like to write: >>> self assert: output equals: expectedOutput. >>> >>> What do you all think? >>> >>> Thanks. >>> Sean >>> >>> -- >>> View this message in context: >>> http://forum.world.st/assert-equals-feels-backwards-tp3614760p3614760.html >>> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>> >>> >> > > > -- > Mariano > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com > >

June 21, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] #assert:equals: feels backwards

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 10:32 PM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras < vonbecmann(a)gmail.com> wrote: > did you check this > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4129 > ? > Yes, I was the gulty. But I am still on favor. So I don't undersatnd Sean's problem. > > > On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com>wrote: > >> In my unit test, I want to make sure that my output equals the >> expectedOutput, but: >> TestCase>>assert: expected equals: actual >> >> It feels wrong to me. It seems that I want to make an assertion about my >> class's behavior and I would like to write: >> self assert: output equals: expectedOutput. >> >> What do you all think? >> >> Thanks. >> Sean >> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://forum.world.st/assert-equals-feels-backwards-tp3614760p3614760.html >> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

June 21, 2011

[Pharo-project] Fwd: [vwnc] Comparison of Aida/Web, Seaside and Iliad web frameworks

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Begin forwarded message: > From: Janko MivÅ¡ek <janko.mivsek(a)eranova.si> > Date: June 21, 2011 10:19:00 PM GMT+02:00 > To: "'VWNC'" <vwnc(a)cs.uiuc.edu>, GNU Smalltalk <help-smalltalk(a)gnu.org>, iliad(a)googlegroups.com > Subject: [vwnc] Comparison of Aida/Web, Seaside and Iliad web frameworks > > Dear Smalltalkers, > > Few months ago I started a comparison of Aida, Seaside and Iliad web > frameworks, with initial goal to check the strengths and weaknesses of > Aida to draw a direction for future Aida development. > > But later I came to idea (and was encouraged also by Stef and others) to > improve it and make this comparison public, therefore for all of you. I > then invited few Iliad and Seaside guys to help balance the comparison, > but unfortunately Seasiders were not willing to join, with their stated > reason that spreadsheet of comparative features is not the best way to > do such comparison. My answer is that a form of spreadsheet is a > simplest start of such comparison. This feature list and check marks can > be later a foundation for some more advanced comparison. We need to > start from somewhere and such checkmarked spreadsheet is easiest to > achieve in a shortest time. > > So, now I'm inviting all of you to take a look at this Google Docs > spreadsheet and comment it. This way we will come at least one step > closer to so needed comparison: > > https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Atnb1W9vuq9ndGRTUFIzT3VON0lTQ3Jxdl… > > Best regards > Janko > > > -- > Janko MivÅ¡ek > Aida/Web > Smalltalk Web Application Server > http://www.aidaweb.si > _______________________________________________ > vwnc mailing list > vwnc(a)cs.uiuc.edu > http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwnc

June 21, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] #assert:equals: feels backwards

by Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras

did you check this http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4129 ? On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com>wrote: > In my unit test, I want to make sure that my output equals the > expectedOutput, but: > TestCase>>assert: expected equals: actual > > It feels wrong to me. It seems that I want to make an assertion about my > class's behavior and I would like to write: > self assert: output equals: expectedOutput. > > What do you all think? > > Thanks. > Sean > > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/assert-equals-feels-backwards-tp3614760p3614760.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >

June 21, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] #assert:equals: feels backwards

by Sean P. DeNigris

Lukas Renggli wrote: > > the description string is not really worth > the troubles, isn't it :-) > When using Autotest, the error message is key because I can see what's going on and continue editing without having to do or inspect anything. Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/assert-equals-feels-backwards-tp3614760p3615213.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

June 21, 2011

[Pharo-project] Comparison of Aida/Web, Seaside and Iliad web frameworks

by Janko MivÅ¡ek

Dear Smalltalkers, Few months ago I started a comparison of Aida, Seaside and Iliad web frameworks, with initial goal to check the strengths and weaknesses of Aida to draw a direction for future Aida development. But later I came to idea (and was encouraged also by Stef and others) to improve it and make this comparison public, therefore for all of you. I then invited few Iliad and Seaside guys to help balance the comparison, but unfortunately Seasiders were not willing to join, with their stated reason that spreadsheet of comparative features is not the best way to do such comparison. My answer is that a form of spreadsheet is a simplest start of such comparison. This feature list and check marks can be later a foundation for some more advanced comparison. We need to start from somewhere and such checkmarked spreadsheet is easiest to achieve in a shortest time. So, now I'm inviting all of you to take a look at this Google Docs spreadsheet and comment it. This way we will come at least one step closer to so needed comparison: https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Atnb1W9vuq9ndGRTUFIzT3VON0lTQ3Jxdl… Best regards Janko -- Janko MivÅ¡ek Aida/Web Smalltalk Web Application Server http://www.aidaweb.si

June 21, 2011

[Pharo-project] [COTDC] 74 - MorphTreeNodeMorph

by laurent laffont

Today: MorphTreeNodeMorph Comment Of The Day Contest - One Day One Comment Rules: #1: Each day a not commented class is elected. Each day the best comment will be integrated with name of the author(s). #2: If you cannot comment it, deprecate it. Results: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/CommentOfTheDayContest Laurent

June 21, 2011