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Re: [Pharo-project] [Esug-list] Pharo Association: alone we have little power, but many we are strong

by Igor Stasenko

On 19 January 2013 21:39, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Of course I forgot the most important > http://association.smalltalkhub.com > hmm.. this one: http://association.pharo.org/ looks more correct to me. perhaps one that you giving is for testing/developing? > Stef > > On Jan 19, 2013, at 7:05 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> Hi guys >> >> Just a point: Join the Pharo association because all together we can get some power. >> For example, I would like that we brainstorm about what kind of effort the association >> want to sponsor. >> - real headless image >> - other network protocols >> -â¦ >> >> So far we are 35 but I really dream about a moment where we will be much more. >> If you find some value to Pharo and you want to encourage its evolution, this is simple. >> >> Stef >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list >> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Jan. 19, 2013

[Pharo-project] Pharo Association: alone we have little power, but many we are strong

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi guys Just a point: Join the Pharo association because all together we can get some power. For example, I would like that we brainstorm about what kind of effort the association want to sponsor. - real headless image - other network protocols -â¦ So far we are 35 but I really dream about a moment where we will be much more. If you find some value to Pharo and you want to encourage its evolution, this is simple. Stef

Jan. 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Headless support for Cog Cocoa VM

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Jan 19, 2013, at 5:08 PM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > Mariano Martinez Peck wrote >> thanks Square [i] International <http://www.square-i.net/> >> ... headless support will be included in the official Pharo >> VM and will be, therefore, accessible to everybody. > > Yes, thank you, thank you!! I've been using Pharo for Jenkins build scripts, > and it was really disruptive to see the image pop up every time a job > started. > > As to the flag limitation, I think for now I'll have two copies of the VM - > a headful one, which will be the default on my Mac, and one with the > headless flag set, that gets explicitly launched by Jenkins... not perfect, > but a HUGE step!! Yes this is why we thank Square [i] And I would like to really encourage effort in that direction. > > Cheers, > Sean > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/ANN-Headless-support-for-Cog-Cocoa-VM-tp4664137p46642… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

Jan. 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Where should SmalltalkHub bugs be reported?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Excellent! Thanks for your time. Stef On Jan 19, 2013, at 5:01 PM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote >> can you open a bug entry because I do not like this smell :) > > Issue 7291: Monticello asks for credentials when none are required > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=7291 > > Pharo2.0a > Latest update: #20476 > > 1. In the MC Browser, add the repo: > MCHttpRepository > location: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/dh83/fisleg/main' > user: 'SeanDeNigris' > password: '' > 2. Click "Open" in the MC Browser > > You will be prompted for a username (which is pre-filled) and password > (which is blank), even though none are required to simply open the repo. If > you don't fill them in with valid credentials, the repo will not open (the > window opens, but doesn't show any packages). In 1.4459 (Summer), this repo > would open without any prompts. > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Where-should-SmalltalkHub-bugs-be-reported-tp4663973p… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

Jan. 19, 2013

[Pharo-project] About Nautilus "show class"

by Igor Stasenko

Hi, first, i must say, using a checkbox to switch between instance/class side is good idea, much much less confusing than with 2-state button. i just don't happy with label, imo a better label would be 'class side' -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Jan. 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Headless support for Cog Cocoa VM

by Sean P. DeNigris

Mariano Martinez Peck wrote > thanks Square [i] International <http://www.square-i.net/> > ... headless support will be included in the official Pharo > VM and will be, therefore, accessible to everybody. Yes, thank you, thank you!! I've been using Pharo for Jenkins build scripts, and it was really disruptive to see the image pop up every time a job started. As to the flag limitation, I think for now I'll have two copies of the VM - a headful one, which will be the default on my Mac, and one with the headless flag set, that gets explicitly launched by Jenkins... not perfect, but a HUGE step!! Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/ANN-Headless-support-for-Cog-Cocoa-VM-tp4664137p46642… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Jan. 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Where should SmalltalkHub bugs be reported?

by Sean P. DeNigris

StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote > can you open a bug entry because I do not like this smell :) Issue 7291: Monticello asks for credentials when none are required http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=7291 Pharo2.0a Latest update: #20476 1. In the MC Browser, add the repo: MCHttpRepository location: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/dh83/fisleg/main' user: 'SeanDeNigris' password: '' 2. Click "Open" in the MC Browser You will be prompted for a username (which is pre-filled) and password (which is blank), even though none are required to simply open the repo. If you don't fill them in with valid credentials, the repo will not open (the window opens, but doesn't show any packages). In 1.4459 (Summer), this repo would open without any prompts. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Where-should-SmalltalkHub-bugs-be-reported-tp4663973p… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Jan. 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Headless support for Cog Cocoa VM

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Ciprian Teodorov < ciprian.teodorov(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Mariano, > > on MacOS 10.6.8 doing ./CogVM-release-noflash-noArgs.app/Contents/MacOS/CogVM > Pier3.image does not work, I get Illegal instruction... > the same with ./CogVM-release-noflash-noArgs.app/Contents/MacOS/CogVM > --headless Pier3.image > > if i try using open CogVM-release-noflash-noArgs.app Pier3.image, it works > but It's not headless, however when looking in the info.plist the key you > have mentioned is there > <key>LSBackgroundOnly</key> > <true/> > > Well, this one is weird ;) I think the problem is (as Mark pointed out) the "open". When you do: open CogVM-release-noflash-noArgs.app Pier3.image I will (I think) do two things: - open the CogVM-release-noflash-noArgs.app (which will popup the window to choose an image) - open the Pier3.image with the default app associated (that would be the same as double clicking the .image from the finder) So, I think that what you need is to add the "-a": open -a CogVM-release-noflash-noArgs.app Pier3.image In this case, you should at least get the same behavior as: ./CogVM-release-noflash-noArgs.app/Contents/MacOS/CogVM Pier3.image that is, a ilegal instruction. Is it like this? Now...why the ilegal instruction?? I don't know. I will check. I could be maybe what I said that I compiled with LLVM GCC. We should compile this VM with GNU GCC...but so far I couldn't in 10.8.2 :( Thanks for the testing to everybody!!! > > On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 2:26 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck < > marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 7:24 AM, Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl>wrote: >> >>> This doesn't work >>> >>> >>> open CogVM-release-noflash-noArgs.app Pier3.image & >>> >>> >> Which OSX version are you using? >> >> >> >>> >>> Jan 19 11:20:51 Stephan-Eggermonts-iMac >>> [0x0-0x2f92f9].org.seaside-project[36832]: This interpreter (vers. 6502) >>> cannot read image file (vers. 6505). >>> Jan 19 11:20:51 Stephan-Eggermonts-iMac >>> [0x0-0x2f92f9].org.seaside-project[36832]: Press CR to quit... >>> Jan 19 11:20:52 Stephan-Eggermonts-iMac ReportCrash[36836]: Failed to >>> create CSSymbolicatorRef for launchd >>> Jan 19 11:20:52 Stephan-Eggermonts-iMac >>> com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[207] >>> ([0x0-0x2fa2fa].org.squeakfoundation.Squeak[36835]): Job appears to have >>> crashed: Segmentation fault >>> Jan 19 11:20:52 Stephan-Eggermonts-iMac ReportCrash[36836]: Saved crash >>> report for launchd[36835] version ??? (???) to >>> /Users/stephan/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/launchd_2013-01-19-112052_Stephan-Eggermonts-iMac.crash >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Mariano >> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com >> > > > > -- > Dr. Ciprian TEODOROV > IngÃ©nieur DÃ©veloppement CAO > > tÃ©l : 06 08 54 73 48 > mail : ciprian.teodorov(a)gmail.com > www.teodorov.ro > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

Jan. 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Do you plan for Pharo2.0 migrate main repositories to SmalltalkHub?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Jan 19, 2013, at 1:00 PM, Denis Kudriashov wrote: > Hello > > Squeaksource seems down. I notice this when try open configuration browser. It hanges on squeaksource metacello repository reading. > And squeaksource is deprecated resource. > So do you plan for Pharo 2.0 to migrate main repositories to SmalltalkHub? yes we will migrate everything. So people should start to use smalltalkHub to stress test it even if nicolas normally load all the pharo file in SmalltalkHub to check. Stef > > Best regards, > Denis

Jan. 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] [ANN] Headless support for Cog Cocoa VM

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

We will blog it and tweet it :) Thanks again. Stef On Jan 19, 2013, at 11:21 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > I would like thank officially Square [i] for this gift to the community. > Thank again. Further work in this direction should be supported by the association and the consortium. > > Stef > > > On Jan 18, 2013, at 8:14 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > >> Hello there, >> >> For a long time, Pharaoers and Squakers have been asking for headless support in the Cocoa VMs just as we have with Carbon VMs. Carbon is becoming a legacy framework so people needed this. >> >> I wanted to thanks Square [i] International for sponsoring me to implement such a support. Not only have they sponsored the development but they have also agreed to release it under MIT license for the community. This headless support will be included in the official Pharo VM and will be, therefore, accessible to everybody. >> >> The project is not yet finished but I do have a demo/prototype that I wanted to share with you so that you can test it and give me feedback. This VM should only work starting at OSX 10.6. >> >> How to use it? Basically it works this way: to have headless, just edit the Info.plist and set the flag LSBackgroundOnly to 1 (add the key if it is not present): >> >> <key>LSBackgroundOnly</key> >> <true/> >> >> When doing this, you don't even need the -headless anymore since, setting LSBackgroundOnly to 1, will cause the same effect (being the flag almost mandatory). If you don't want headless, put it to false or don't even put the key. If you don't set LSBackgroundOnly to 1 but send -headless, the VM will still be headless but you will see a little flash. If this flash bothers you, then set the flag. I am trying to get a way to avoid the "flash" while also avoiding to set LSBackgroundOnly to 1, but I still couldn't find it. Anyway, I think we can live with the current situation. >> >> How to test it? You should run the image with something like RFB or Seaside or whatever you can and then confirm if it is working even if you are headless. As a matter of testing, I saved an image with seaside running in the port 5555. You can get both, this Seaside image and the VM with headless from: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/r7qk49bxywk2xce/6N7-fdyx6V >> So if you run the VM headless with that image and go to localhost:5555, you should see that Seaside is running. >> >> I would appreciate if you can test it. And please let me know in which version of OSX you tried. Of course, the more of you who can test it, the better. Notice that this VM was compiled with LLVM GCC 4.2 and it may have some problems in older OSX versions (but I think it shouldn't). I still couldn't compile a VM with GNU GCC 4.2 as I get a crash :( >> >> Expected results? In headless mode, anything should be displayed (no window, no menu, no item in the dock and nothing appear when switching apps). When running headfull, everything should be normal. >> >> Where is the code? The code I have modified to the VM is committed to my own fork of the VM: https://gitorious.org/~marianopeck/cogvm/marianopecks-blessed >> Once the code is ready, I will do a pull request so that it can be integrated. >> >> Thanks everyone for the testing and feedback. Once again, thanks Square [i] International for sponsoring this great feature. Also thanks Esteban Lorenzano and Mark Smith for their incredible help. >> >> This was just the first prototype. I will keep you informed about possible progress. >> >> Best regards, >> >> -- >> Mariano >> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com > >

Jan. 19, 2013