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Re: [Pharo-project] Metacello configuration conventions

by Camillo Bruni

On 2013-04-17, at 02:50, "Sean P. DeNigris" <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: > Camillo Bruni-3 wrote >> I liked ruby-gems approach more than the one in Metacello. You usually >> specify >> a major version (as under linux) for your dependency. > > It seems they're using semantic versioning, which is *awesome*, but can we > depend on the convention being followed? I've been pushing to get the tools > (e.g. Versionner) to use semantic version numbers by default (i.e. new > bugfix version, new enhancement version, new incompatible version) Yeah I think we can run all of that on top of versioner/conventions. You can always introduce symbolic versions for releases as well so the old habit of directly referring to a fixed version number will still continue to work.

April 17, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Monitor is DOWN: get.pharo.org (http://get.pharo.org)

by Camillo Bruni

On 2013-04-17, at 10:48, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > On Apr 17, 2013, at 10:43 AM, Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> The server is still down apparently. > > No, what we use here is a URL forward that is provided by the DNS hosting company. > > This used to work, but the last week it started to fail very very often. > > We are in the process of moving the files on a server in away that we can have > > get.pharo.org > > as a normal DNS entry. > > Sadly this is (like always) taking *far* longer that we ever thought it would. > But it is nearly done. > > The good news is that we will then, after this works, even put it behind a CDN > so that access from Asia will be even faster. But one step at a time. I think we're almost there with the new fileserver. - apache is properly configured (including all subdomains) - ssh access from jenkins is running last steps: - sync again all files over from gforge - try a full upload from jenkins

April 17, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 3.0] #30044

by Camillo Bruni

nice! On 2013-04-17, at 10:54, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > On 17 Apr 2013, at 10:45, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >> 30044 >> ----- >> >> 10295 Zinc Update April 16th >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10295 >> > > Thanks. > > Sven >

April 17, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Monitor is DOWN: get.pharo.org (http://get.pharo.org)

by Serge Stinckwich

Yes behind a CDN could be really nice, especially in Vietnam where the connexion are not really good. No stress, I can do my course without having zeroconf script. Thank you Marcus for your work. Regards, On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > On Apr 17, 2013, at 10:43 AM, Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> The server is still down apparently. > > No, what we use here is a URL forward that is provided by the DNS hosting company. > > This used to work, but the last week it started to fail very very often. > > We are in the process of moving the files on a server in away that we can have > > get.pharo.org > > as a normal DNS entry. > > Sadly this is (like always) taking *far* longer that we ever thought it would. > But it is nearly done. > > The good news is that we will then, after this works, even put it behind a CDN > so that access from Asia will be even faster. But one step at a time. > > > Marcus > > >> I would like to use the zeroconf script for a course in Ha Noi next week. >> >> Regards, >> >> On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>> >>> On Apr 15, 2013, at 4:01 PM, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>> >>>>> From: "Uptime Robot" <alert(a)uptimerobot.com> >>>>> Subject: Monitor is DOWN: get.pharo.org (http://get.pharo.org) >>>>> Date: 15. April 2013 16:00:23 MESZ >>>>> To: camillobruni(a)gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> The monitor get.pharo.org (http://get.pharo.org) is currently DOWN (Connection Timeout). >>>>> >>> >>> Yes, my watchdog said the sameâ¦ we need to get rid of the forward. >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Serge Stinckwich >> UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) >> Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk >> http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/ >> > > -- Serge Stinckwich UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/

April 17, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 3.0] #30044

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 17 Apr 2013, at 10:45, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > 30044 > ----- > > 10295 Zinc Update April 16th > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10295 > Thanks. Sven

April 17, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Monitor is DOWN: get.pharo.org (http://get.pharo.org)

by Marcus Denker

On Apr 17, 2013, at 10:48 AM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > On Apr 17, 2013, at 10:43 AM, Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> The server is still down apparently. > > No, what we use here is a URL forward that is provided by the DNS hosting company. > > This used to work, but the last week it started to fail very very often. > It seems this is caused by a DDOS attack on the DNS and DNS URL forwarding servers of NameCheap: http://status.namecheap.com Marcus

April 17, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Monitor is DOWN: get.pharo.org (http://get.pharo.org)

by Marcus Denker

On Apr 17, 2013, at 10:43 AM, Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com> wrote: > The server is still down apparently. No, what we use here is a URL forward that is provided by the DNS hosting company. This used to work, but the last week it started to fail very very often. We are in the process of moving the files on a server in away that we can have get.pharo.org as a normal DNS entry. Sadly this is (like always) taking *far* longer that we ever thought it would. But it is nearly done. The good news is that we will then, after this works, even put it behind a CDN so that access from Asia will be even faster. But one step at a time. Marcus > I would like to use the zeroconf script for a course in Ha Noi next week. > > Regards, > > On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> >> On Apr 15, 2013, at 4:01 PM, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Begin forwarded message: >>> >>>> From: "Uptime Robot" <alert(a)uptimerobot.com> >>>> Subject: Monitor is DOWN: get.pharo.org (http://get.pharo.org) >>>> Date: 15. April 2013 16:00:23 MESZ >>>> To: camillobruni(a)gmail.com >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> The monitor get.pharo.org (http://get.pharo.org) is currently DOWN (Connection Timeout). >>>> >> >> Yes, my watchdog said the sameâ¦ we need to get rid of the forward. >> >> > > > > -- > Serge Stinckwich > UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) > Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk > http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/ >

April 17, 2013

[Pharo-project] [update 3.0] #30044

by Marcus Denker

30044 ----- 10295 Zinc Update April 16th https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10295

April 17, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Monitor is DOWN: get.pharo.org (http://get.pharo.org)

by Serge Stinckwich

The server is still down apparently. I would like to use the zeroconf script for a course in Ha Noi next week. Regards, On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > On Apr 15, 2013, at 4:01 PM, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> From: "Uptime Robot" <alert(a)uptimerobot.com> >>> Subject: Monitor is DOWN: get.pharo.org (http://get.pharo.org) >>> Date: 15. April 2013 16:00:23 MESZ >>> To: camillobruni(a)gmail.com >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> The monitor get.pharo.org (http://get.pharo.org) is currently DOWN (Connection Timeout). >>> > > Yes, my watchdog said the sameâ¦ we need to get rid of the forward. > > -- Serge Stinckwich UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/

April 17, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 2.0 and Zinc - big thanks!

by Norbert Hartl

Am 17.04.2013 um 03:09 schrieb Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com>: > <ranting> > i wonder why people so obsessed with web? > it is ugly, and dead before born.. > </ranting> > Why ugly? The dead beforn born part remembers me of a programming language we all love. Why resurrect? :) Hmm, maybe because there is potential. Uhh, the same goes for the web. So, stay tuned! Norbert > On 17 April 2013 02:19, Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com> wrote: >> Torsten Bergmann wrote: >>> >>> Thanks - Pharo 2.0 and Zinc makes it really easy >>> to work with, write AND test HTTP stuff: >>> >>> >> >> That sparks an idea, perhaps for a student project... >> That a general HTTP testing framework for use against non-Pharo systems >> could be just the thing to help the uptake of Pharo in "enterprises". The >> level of trust required for an internal testing tool is less than that >> required for an end-user system. This might be a good stepping stone for >> enterprises which may initially view Smalltalk a bit strange. >> Unless of course best practice is to use web testing tools from within real >> web browsers (I not familiar with what the options are). Perhaps a website >> stress test tool where the live exceptions can be inspected is something >> that other tools cannot do. >> >> cheers -ben >> > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko. >

April 17, 2013